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Kane Knight 07-08-2005 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaroqwolf
Its not that big of a thing, just a bunch of guys in masks..(Done before I can point out 2 or 3 instences) Came out and beat on the undertaker. (Those instences werent all on the Undertaker) And I bet will never see the mask men again (Cause were supposed to forget they ever exsisted. (Cause, I still remember)

Well, it wasn't JUST masks. These guys were Hollywood terrorists.

Amaroqwolf 07-08-2005 07:49 PM

Oh, right sorry KK, I got that wrong...lol

PureHatred 07-08-2005 08:06 PM

Hey, its not just the 9/11 victims they offended...what about the Muslims who aren't terrorists who wre seen in a negative light? And what about the Mexicans they offended with the Mexi-cools? And what about the Smurfs they offended by having the bWo on the show? What about those people?

It's fucking wrestling. The WWE has done tasteless entertainment for the better part of 30 years. If you're sensitive, stop watching.

Loose Cannon 07-08-2005 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Hey, its not just the 9/11 victims they offended...what about the Muslims who aren't terrorists who wre seen in a negative light? And what about the Mexicans they offended with the Mexi-cools? And what about the Smurfs they offended by having the bWo on the show? What about those people?

It's fucking wrestling. The WWE has done tasteless entertainment for the better part of 30 years. If you're sensitive, stop watching.

THANK YOU!

vampiro03 07-08-2005 09:47 PM

I agree, it wasn't the best timing. it was a little extreme, but weren't the people that are offended by this the same people who were bitching about wrestling being too soft. ie no piledrivers, vertabreakers, screwdrivers ect. not enough HARDCORE wrestling. hassan will get his by ut. it is just wrestling though. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Kane Knight 07-08-2005 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Hey, its not just the 9/11 victims they offended...what about the Muslims who aren't terrorists who wre seen in a negative light? And what about the Mexicans they offended with the Mexi-cools? And what about the Smurfs they offended by having the bWo on the show? What about those people?

It's fucking wrestling. The WWE has done tasteless entertainment for the better part of 30 years. If you're sensitive, stop watching.

Won't someone please think of the children? Ban the bWo! It's offensive to smurf Americans!

Kane Knight 07-08-2005 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vampiro03
I agree, it wasn't the best timing. it was a little extreme, but weren't the people that are offended by this the same people who were bitching about wrestling being too soft. ie no piledrivers, vertabreakers, screwdrivers ect. not enough HARDCORE wrestling. hassan will get his by ut. it is just wrestling though. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Okay, there's a difference between soft wrestling and soft storylines.

The answer to the lack of piledrivers isn't bloodshed (For example) on TV.

However, if the WWE want to succeed, they have to push the edge. The downside to this is that they're going to step over sometimes.

I don't know if this was over the edge or not, but it's NOT as bad as people have made it out to be. It's not even that "edgy."

PureHatred 07-08-2005 10:57 PM

Didn't we all do this dance when Eugene debuted and some idiot on here claimed to have a retarded brother?

Kane Knight 07-08-2005 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Didn't we all do this dance when Eugene debuted and some idiot on here claimed to have a retarded brother?

Ahhhh...How I miss sledge.

We'll do this dance MANY times.

Chavo Classic 07-09-2005 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FearedSanctity
I don't think it was in bad taste. Wrestling, in my opinion, is going to have to be more edgy if it hopes to be as popular as it was years ago. While for now Hassan's henchmen might be a little extreme, I feel it's stuff like this that could get people interested.

You sir, are an ass.

If you've read the spoilers, then there's no way then you could actually approve of them showing that scene.

You tell that to my friend who's in hospital down in London who requires surgery on the huge hole in her left calf.

you fucking ass!

Loose Cannon 07-09-2005 09:55 AM

cause that was a terrorist act on Smackdown?

I didn't know men in black ski masks were terrorists.

They put that warning on the TV for the people who immediately associate that act as a terrorist act just because those guys had black ski masks on and for the whole Hassan is Arab so he must be a terrorist thing.

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chavo Jnr Jnr
You sir, are an ass.

If you've read the spoilers, then there's no way then you could actually approve of them showing that scene.

You tell that to my friend who's in hospital down in London who requires surgery on the huge hole in her left calf.

you fucking ass!

1) So cliched 80s terrorists blew a hole in your friend's calf?

2) I spent hours trying to track down two friends in London. I've got friends and family serving in Iraq where al Qaeda's currently beheading people, and I lost of a friend when al Qaeda dropped a building on him and @ 3,000 other people.

3) That being said, I don't think that this segment was as bad as it was made out to be. Or as horrible as you make it out to be.

Call me an ass if you want. I've been called worse.

Lamuella 07-09-2005 11:08 AM

personally I thought it was the most disgusting thing they'd ever done.

Considering what had happened the day it was broadcast, they should have edited the show, removed Hassan and 'Taker's parts, and either had the show run half an hour short or put in some Velocity matches.

It was a stupid segment at the best of times. Considering what happened on the day it was aired, it was a huge mistake to broadcast it.

I'd like it if next week, Hassan came out, broke character, and said something about it.

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamuella
Considering what had happened the day it was broadcast, they should have edited the show, removed Hassan and 'Taker's parts, and either had the show run half an hour short or put in some Velocity matches.

Did they even HAVE Velocity matches this week? They haven't for the last couple...

PureHatred 07-09-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Did they even HAVE Velocity matches this week? They haven't for the last couple...

No. But for the good of the company and to avoid offending the sensitive, the WWE should've pulled Trips out of a closet and let him cut a 30 minute promo.

Morgan 07-09-2005 11:40 AM

I haven't see any of this, but did Val Venis have a towel around his waist?

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
No. But for the good of the company and to avoid offending the sensitive, the WWE should've pulled Trips out of a closet and let him cut a 30 minute promo.

LMFAO.

Haven't they suffered enough?

They probably could have truncated this. IT would have been more like 15 minutes of time eaten. IT would have made more sense.

But they didn't, and UPN decided to run with it too.

Morgan 07-09-2005 11:43 AM

"you know ladies, the world of international terrorism and the big valbowski, have a lot in common"

PureHatred 07-09-2005 11:45 AM

Nevermind. :rofl:

SuperSlim 07-09-2005 11:48 AM

It's a storyline.

It's wreslting.

It's fake.

Goodness, they've aired much worse than this. Sure the timing may have been bad but what is done is done.

Morgan 07-09-2005 11:53 AM

[QUOTE][[PHP]QUOTE=Lamuella]personally I thought it was the most disgusting thing they'd ever done.

Considering what had happened the day it was broadcast, they should have edited the show, removed Hassan and 'Taker's parts, and either had the show run half an hour short or put in some Velocity matches.

It was a stupid segment at the best of times. Considering what happened on the day it was aired, it was a huge mistake to broadcast it.

I'd like it if next week, Hassan came out, broke character, and said something about it.

-That's what they did in the U.K. Smackdown just ended earlier though. I think when you do necrophilia and rape, it's hard to top on the bad taste scale. But you should never doubt WWE, and they did with "Osama Bin Hassan"

Morgan 07-09-2005 11:57 AM

Now this all some tense serious discussion and allow me to break the mood with some smooth jazz stylings.

"crazy daaaays...and lazy nights. You make me high in so many waaays. Doobie doobie doo, da da doobie da.

"Baba do"

Morgan 07-09-2005 11:59 AM

four posts in and already sensing neg rep coming my way.

Morgan's debut= shockmaster's debut

Loose Cannon 07-09-2005 11:59 AM

friend of Shadow's?

Joey Slugs 07-09-2005 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yeah. If they're our guys, they're freedom fighters. If they're their guys, it's terrorism.

Like I said previously in on e of these threads, it's amazing the US viewers reaction to terrorists when this nation was founded by terrorist acts. When the US created Osama and Saddam.

Since they don't talk about it on Fox News, people don't pay attention to these facts.

Remember...we have a president that said he doesn't even care about Osama anymore... you know, they guy who REALLY bombed us.

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim
It's a storyline.

It's wreslting.

It's fake.

Goodness, they've aired much worse than this. Sure the timing may have been bad but what is done is done.

Wait...

It's WRESTLING? Shit man, I thought I was watching a re-enactment of the Lodon catastophe. I mean they both have so much in common...;)

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeventyTimes7
Since they don't talk about it on Fox News, people don't pay attention to these facts.

Remember...we have a president that said he doesn't even care about Osama anymore... you know, they guy who REALLY bombed us.

I think it's funny that we always think it's so great that we catch the #3 guy in al Qaeda. We've done it like ten times..There will always be another one.

BEsides...Osama didn't bomb America...It was Saddam. Haven't you read the papers?

SuperSlim 07-09-2005 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Wait...

It's WRESTLING? Shit man, I thought I was watching a re-enactment of the Lodon catastophe. I mean they both have so much in common...;)

I know. I see exactly where you comin from. ;)

Savio 07-09-2005 02:08 PM

psst i think morgan is ferret.

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim
I know. I see exactly where you comin from. ;)

I mean, garrotting a wrestler is so close to bombing a subway.

SuperSlim 07-09-2005 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I mean, garrotting a wrestler is so close to bombing a subway.

the similarities are uncanny. It's like they planned this or something.

Morgan 07-09-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
psst i think morgan is ferret.

I'm not. My actual name is Kyle, I live in Milton Keynes, England. I've been reading these forums for over a year and today is the day I've started posting. So far I've notched up 30 posts in a few hours. On that subject though, I quite liked ferret, wouldn't mind seeing him unbanned.

Kane Knight 07-09-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim
the similarities are uncanny. It's like they planned this or something.

Oh Shit...

VINCE MCMAHON IS BEHIND AL QAEDA!

And he probably shot tupac. I mean, there were five terrorists in the ring, plus HAssan and Davari...A stable of 7 men...

Morgan 07-09-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Oh Shit...

VINCE MCMAHON IS BEHIND AL QAEDA!

And he probably shot tupac. I mean, there were five terrorists in the ring, plus HAssan and Davari...A stable of 7 men...

Vince is the guy doing the "Ayayayaliaaa" sound at the start of Hassan's music. It's his prostate acting up.

SuperSlim 07-09-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Oh Shit...

VINCE MCMAHON IS BEHIND AL QAEDA!

And he probably shot tupac. I mean, there were five terrorists in the ring, plus HAssan and Davari...A stable of 7 men...

noooooooooooooo

not Tupac :'(

Joey Slugs 07-09-2005 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
BEsides...Osama didn't bomb America...It was Saddam. Haven't you read the papers?

Well, if that's the case... G.W. BUSH IS THE GREATEST DICTATOR IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!!


:shifty:

loopydate 07-09-2005 05:15 PM

Honestly, what's the difference between Muhammad Hassan orchestrating a scripted attack on The Undertaker and any episode of "24?"

Was it stupid to have the Arab-American who rails against racist Americans who assume he's a terrorist come out with what appeared to be a terrorist cell? Absolutely.

Was it disgusting, reprehensible, etc.? Absofuckinglutely not. It's a GODDAMN TV SHOW, and nobody thinks otherwise. These are fictional characters portrayed on a fictional TV show that is (loosely) about a sport.

And if we get all bent out of shape whenever there's a terrorist act, then we're not doing so hot in that War on Terror, are we? If we have to alter our way of life (avoiding crowded areas, censoring our entertainment, etc.), they're doing their job.

SuperSlim 07-09-2005 05:17 PM

aat least Loopy gets it

loopydate 07-09-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SeventyTimes7
Well, if that's the case... G.W. BUSH IS THE GREATEST DICATOR IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!!


:shifty:

I'm guessing you're not American. I've never seen anything this truthful in a U.S. paper.

Schoenauer 07-09-2005 05:18 PM

Well at first I thought it was going too far until I realized this is just going to bring him more heel heat and the writers will hopefully have Hassan getting what he wants.


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