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whiteyford 08-08-2014 05:04 PM

I don't care how good they look if the games still shit.

Fignuts 08-08-2014 05:23 PM

That too.

I definitely want to see a new gameplay engine, though I might be convinced to buy if they added a lot more moves. That was a problem in the last couple. Everyone having the same moves with the same animations.

I know real life move sets aren't that diverse, but games of yesteryear, guys would have their own animations for the same move, with the subtle nuances they applied in real life.

We used to complain about 30 versions of the vertical suplex being in the game, but looking back now, I'd much rather have that, than seeing the same exact animation in every god damn match.

whiteyford 08-08-2014 05:28 PM

It seems like they were removing more stuff than they were putting in. Would much prefer they flooded it with more moves/match types/different 'legends' than make it look prettier.

whiteyford 08-08-2014 05:29 PM

Would still rather have the Public Enemy or the Yeti than Cena in a purple shirt.

Fignuts 08-08-2014 05:36 PM

No way.

Grimace Cena 4 lyfe

whiteyford 08-08-2014 06:44 PM

Fine Hack Meyers and Lodi for green tshirt Cena.

Lock Jaw 08-08-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4480624)

Didn't know Cena was looking to get into the next Planet of the Apes movie

Lock Jaw 08-09-2014 12:06 AM

http://38.media.tumblr.com/a8c1f7714...h24co1_400.png

cnoslim 08-09-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4484765)

Hahahahaha love it

jaycool2k 08-10-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4484765)

The Chimp is here! :roll::lol:

Evil Vito 08-11-2014 09:34 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The 2 feuds for Showcase mode are HHH/HBK and Cena/Punk.

Pipebomb in video game form.</font> :cool:

Kalyx triaD 08-11-2014 09:53 AM

Ugh

drave 08-11-2014 10:10 AM

BOOOOOO @ the HHH/HBK feud. Now for some in-game clips to move the buy or not scale one way or the other.

Miotch 08-11-2014 02:34 PM

DLC to release more feuds for the mode most likely.

Emperor Smeat 08-11-2014 03:07 PM

http://mms.businesswire.com/media/20...Punk_Retro.jpg

road doggy dogg 08-11-2014 03:36 PM

looks weird

proportions or the angle or something looks funky

idk

Frank Drebin 08-11-2014 03:56 PM

Big Bossman vs The Mountie

It must be done

drave 08-11-2014 04:33 PM

God damn, nearlyl looks like a photo. Glad Punk made it in.

drave 08-11-2014 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4486225)
Big Bossman vs The Mountie

It must be done

Don't forget Nailz. We need a nightstick match.

XL 08-11-2014 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miotch (Post 4486174)
DLC to release more feuds for the mode most likely.

I'd love that. I can't see it happening though.

Purgatory 08-11-2014 07:34 PM

I hear rumored there may be a special CM Punk: "TYBAGH" (Take Your Ball And Go Home) Edition as well.

Mercenary 08-11-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purgatory (Post 4486360)
I hear rumored there may be a special CM Punk: "TYBAGH" (Take Your Ball And Go Home) Edition as well.


:lol:

Purgatory 08-11-2014 09:12 PM

Basically, you play as CM Punk through the standard Career Mode/Universe Mode/whatever it's going to be. Every week, you get an option to "Walk". If you don't, you get a "Congratulations" screen and a really fucked up storyline unfolds for you to partake in. This is your "Thanks for not Quitting". You make it through this said scenario, you unlock something (Extra stuff in Create Modes). Then you're back to Career/Universe Mode. Only now, the controls have changed and you start struggling in matches and lose some big matches you'd think CM Punk would win. Now, the option to "Walk" is in the normal menu screen and can be used at any time.

Should you choose "Walk", CM Punk is gone and you get to choose someone else to use. Once in awhile, you get a cutscene to CM Punk at home and you get the option to "Come Back". A mini-Game pops up and this decides whether you come back as a monster face or as a pissed off, self-loathing, "I didn't have anymore money and HAD to come back" type character. Then it's back to Career Mode/Universe with CM Punk if you chose to have him come back, then more screwed up scenarios and options to "Walk" again.

Romors of a "Hot Coffee" scenario with AJ Lee have been scrapped, as of this writing. :(

Kalyx triaD 08-11-2014 09:17 PM

lol

Purgatory 08-11-2014 09:22 PM

Yeah, I was bored

Cool King 08-11-2014 11:26 PM

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...52079362_n.png

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-11-2014 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4486198)

Burying him by making him look skinny?

Disturbed316 08-12-2014 03:58 AM

Only two rivalries? Hopefully you can control other wrestlers that may have had matches with the participants during that time.

XL 08-12-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4487063)

Thank God we'll have short-haired and long-haired HHH. Had me worried there for a minute.

Fignuts 08-12-2014 06:38 PM

Did they swap Punk's lower body for AJ's?

Mercenary 08-12-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4487560)
Did they swap Punk's lower body for AJ's?


Yeah Aj had more muscles!

cnoslim 08-12-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

WWE 2K15: FIRST HANDS-ON -- IGN FIRST
Yuke's' franchise heads in a new direction.

BY: VINCE INGENITO
AUGUST 12, 2014
Ever since 2K and Visual Concepts picked up the long-running WWE video game series, fans have wondered: how will the game change? Can Visual Concepts – working with longtime developer Yuke’s – do for WWE what they did for NBA basketball? How will WWE 2K15 feel in the ring when my hands are wrapped around controller? At long last, I have the answers I’ve been looking for.
ADVERTISEMENT


If I were forced at gunpoint to describe what I played in one word, it would simply be “different.” Now don’t freak out, that’s not a euphemism of some kind. I’m not grasping for a polite way to tell you that Yuke’s and Visual Concepts screwed the pooch. In fact, I really dig the direction 2K15 is taking the franchise. It’s a very clear step down a path that few wrestling games have ever walked. I’m here to tell you that WWE 2K15 is, for lack of a better term, a wrestling sim.
Don’t get me wrong: it hasn’t turned into something so complex to play that casual fans won’t know what’s going on. But the balance, pacing, and weight of everything has been tuned to fall more in line with the actual performances you see on Monday nights. Some of this comes down to little things, like the height of the ropes (which has never been accurate, by the way). But there are also a good deal of big things – new systems and mechanics that drastically change the way you play wrestling games.

Take the grappling system as an example. Just go ahead and eliminate any thought you had about walking up to your opponent at the start of a match and just delivering a DDT or a backbreaker because they failed to counter it. That’s just not how a match in the WWE starts, so when you press the grapple button in the early stages of a match in WWE 2K15, it initiates the new chain wrestling system.
Wrestling fans know the drill: the two wrestlers go right into a classic collar-and-elbow lockup to jockey for position. It starts like rock, paper, scissors – with each player pressing one of three face buttons, and the winner advancing to a more advantageous position. From here, both players play what is essentially a lock-picking game, rotating the right stick until they find the “sweet spot,” and holding it there to improve their respective situation. During this time, the player with advantage can land strikes, or even wrench whatever limb they’ve grabbed a hold of. It’s a lot more like the opening stages of a real match than running right up to your opponent for a spine-buster the moment the bell rings.

During this period, you can still do running or standing strikes, as well as Irish whips, so you still have options, but the full extent of the grappling game doesn’t open up until some decent damage has been dealt. Speaking of strikes, I criticized WWE 2K14 for how silly its super-speedy attack chains looked, but I won’t be able to say the same of 2K15. Strikes come out at a speed more in line with how actual people punch and kick, making attack chains more deliberate and satisfying to land. It makes exchanges a lot less breezy, but is a fight between two 300+ pound men supposed to be breezy?
Grappling has undergone another key change: the four intermediary grapple stances are gone. Once you’re out of the opening chain-wrestling phase, you just press or hold the grapple button along with a direction to launch right into a move. You can still do a basic headlock to set up rudimentary moves, and the returning limb targeting system, but your core grappling moves will come right from standing. Again, this just makes sense. Once the “feeling out” period is over, how often do guys put one another into a specific hold before doing a suplex? They don’t; they just do it.

I wish I could be a Paul Heyman guy. :(
Many subtle elements serve that same theme of, “Does that happen?” Animations were captured in a full, regulation-size ring this year, and all the in-game rings were rebuilt to proper scale to compensate. It changes how wrestlers look compared to their surroundings, how fast they get to the ropes off an Irish whip, and how they climb the turnbuckle. All these subtle things that have been wrong for so long are finally right, and while no one thing truly pops, the sum of it all is a more believable match.
It doesn’t end there, either. 2K15 packs a new stamina system that you absolutely must manage if you want to succeed. Running in circles around the ring to escape your opponent might seem like a fun way to troll someone online, until you’ve burned your wrestler out to the point of no return and you’re throwing spaghetti-armed punches for the rest of the match. That might not sound like the fun you want to have with your wrestling game, but it’s the exact kind of thoughtful limitation that I’ve been missing – the kind that has always kept matches from truly mimicking the storytelling and psychology of the matches I grew up loving.

Me too, John. Me too.
For some fans, these changes are going to sound scary, but for me, they’re exactly what I’ve been missing for years. The central question I always ask when playing any game is, “What meaningful choices am I getting to make right now?” And as much as I’ve played and loved WWE games over the years, the answer has usually been, “Not many.” But with this departure in form, I think that’s going to change for me this year, and that has me excited to play more.

Purgatory 08-12-2014 08:56 PM

Man, they femmed ol' CM Punk right up.

Fignuts 08-12-2014 09:20 PM

Okay, that actually sounds really promising. Still can't help but be skeptical though, given how long it's taken to get info/screenshots, the bumped up release date, etc.

Purgatory 08-12-2014 09:25 PM

The grappling system, as you deal damage, the grappling options get better, etc. This sounds almost Fire Pro Wrestling-ish. Not that that's a bad thing by any stretch.

Kalyx triaD 08-13-2014 12:40 AM

Still not my ideal system but I dig the direction. Good try.

James Steele 08-13-2014 08:15 AM

The HBK/HHH feud was an amazing 2 year odyssey.

Fignuts 08-13-2014 08:22 AM

I love the idea of starting with the typical back and forthhammerlock type stuff that's in a real match, I just don't know how well it will work with a rock/paper/scissor system.

XL 08-13-2014 09:57 AM

I like the idea of a more true to life ring, where Big Show can't to the top rope in 0.3 seconds.

Still need to see all this in action.

XL 08-13-2014 09:57 AM

It's SummerSlam this weekend, think we'll get some footage?

hb2k 08-13-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purgatory (Post 4487631)
The grappling system, as you deal damage, the grappling options get better, etc. This sounds almost Fire Pro Wrestling-ish. Not that that's a bad thing by any stretch.

If they use FirePro as a blueprint, I'll be a very, very happy man.

Evil Vito 08-13-2014 02:37 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/rwvVRqMIrWs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<font color=goldenrod>Holy crap, this looks very promising.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-13-2014 03:05 PM

What's with that guy doing skipping Cesaro's entrance?

Evil Vito 08-13-2014 05:49 PM

http://www.gameranx.com/img/14-Aug/wwe2k15goldust.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>The detail on Goldust is astounding.</font>

XL 08-13-2014 05:55 PM

That Orton entrance looks almost photo-realistic! Still a lot of the gameplay dynamics to be seen and a whole bunch of info on the modes, but things are looking pretty good.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-13-2014 10:59 PM

Will these improvements make it to the 360/ps3? Or is it all just One/Ps4 stuff?

Purgatory 08-14-2014 04:36 AM

Not as far as the Career Mode goes. Apparently, that is Xbox One/PS4 exclusive. I do hear that the graphics/animation upgrades are supposedly coming to the 360/PS3, but I'd want to start seeing screens for them before I'd believe it.

Evil Vito 08-14-2014 07:26 AM

<font color=goldenrod>lol the gameplay video is private now, probably because the creator was getting ripped for spamming an Irish whip.</font>

Frank Drebin 08-14-2014 08:04 AM

Following up on my post about having different atmospheres and not just different ring setups - does anyone think that when you do the punk/cena story that the crowd or entrances when you do MITB in Chicago will look and sound different than any other match? Really want that big fight feel during the actual game play rather than just a cut scene or recap video before the match.

cnoslim 08-14-2014 09:58 AM

Couldnt embed -- john cena entrance

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9nvqUln-Qk

Evil Vito 08-14-2014 12:45 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Cameraman doesn't follow Cena to the ring? That's it - I'm cancelling my pre-order.</font>

Kalyx triaD 08-14-2014 01:10 PM

Who are these fucking losers playing the game?

drave 08-14-2014 01:27 PM

Someone's jelly

Fignuts 08-14-2014 06:37 PM

Striking looks soooooooooo much better than the hyper speed combo crap from the last games.

cnoslim 08-14-2014 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnoslim (Post 4488768)
Couldnt embed -- john cena entrance

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v9nvqUln-Qk

What i like about it was when randy orton was down, he grabbed the ropes to get back up

Fignuts 08-16-2014 12:08 AM

Hoping the upcoming XBONE update means we'll be able to use music of a USB for custom entrance themes.

http://majornelson.com/2014/08/12/ki...t-coming-soon/

Mercenary 08-16-2014 01:35 AM

Are they doing the roster reveal today, and what time?

Fignuts 08-16-2014 01:47 AM

The whole "slowly crawl over for the pin after a big move" thing is in the game.

Little detail, but it's something I've wanted to see forever. Yay.

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4489737)
Are they doing the roster reveal today, and what time?

<font color=goldenrod>1 PM EST/10 AM PST. Should be on this link:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/...-roster-reveal

Thing is 2 fuckin' hours long though.</font>

Mercenary 08-16-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4489781)
<font color=goldenrod>1 PM EST/10 AM PST. Should be on this link:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/...-roster-reveal

Thing is 2 fuckin' hours long though.</font>

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/08/16...██


STING BAH GAWD IT'S STI...Wait that's Steve Borden not Sting

Mercenary 08-16-2014 01:14 PM

woooahhh scsa shooting on the hulkster!

Mercenary 08-16-2014 01:20 PM

no footage... wtf

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 01:23 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, just renders. Lame.</font>

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 01:31 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I'm watching on YouTube. Haven't had any issues.</font>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxNOxiV4i4

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 01:34 PM

<font color=goldenrod>NXT confirmed :cool: Now hoping they reveal some NXT guys.</font>

Dark-Slicer Diago 08-16-2014 01:42 PM

IGN was slow and freezing for me too, I switched to youtube and no issues.

drave 08-16-2014 01:45 PM

lol "Tyson Kidd.... you can see him alongside Natalya on Total Divas".

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 01:53 PM

<font color=goldenrod>So they said the reveal would be in 3 sections, and there are still a bunch of guys that would seem to be slam dunks to be in.

Either the 3rd section is massive or they're holding off Legends/NXT/etc. until another day. Or it's just a way smaller roster than expected.</font>

XL 08-16-2014 01:53 PM

No surprises so far.

Mercenary 08-16-2014 02:03 PM

wtf roster is this snes one

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 02:04 PM

<font color=goldenrod>No Kane???

This can't be it. They have to be NXT guys or legends or something they've held out.

Maybe a 4th section and Renee said 3 by mistake.</font>

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 02:12 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Kane
Mark Henry
Cody Rhodes
Bad News Barrett

Yeah...there are definitely more to come.</font>

Dark-Slicer Diago 08-16-2014 02:16 PM

I think they'll be in the next batch for sure, Vito.

Dark-Slicer Diago 08-16-2014 02:17 PM

I've put the roster in a notepad atm, then I'll post after I've put them in alphabetical order.

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 02:28 PM

<font color=goldenrod>All of these people asking Sting when he'll wrestle again wouldn't have survived 1997 WCW.</font>

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 02:37 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah so 2K pretty much trolled everybody. They've already sent out a tweet inferring that there are more to be announced later.</font>

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 02:43 PM

<font color=goldenrod>And WWE.com just posted a new list. Loads of people that weren't announced for some reason:

The WWE 2K15 roster includes:

AJ Lee
Alberto Del Rio
Bad News Barrett
Batista
Big E
Big Show
Booker T
Bray Wyatt
Brie Bella
Brock Lesnar
Cameron
Cesaro
Chris Jericho
CM Punk
Cody Rhodes
Curtis Axel
Damien Sandow
Daniel Bryan
Darren Young
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler
Erick Rowan
Fandango
Goldust
Hulk Hogan
Jack Swagger
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
John Cena
Justin Gabriel
Kane
Kevin Nash
Kofi Kingston
Luke Harper
Mark Henry
Naomi
Natalya
Nikki Bella
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Ric Flair
Rob Van Dam
Roman Reigns
R-Truth
Ryback
Santino Marella
Seth Rollins
Shawn Michaels
Sheamus
Sting
“Stone Cold” Steve Austin
Summer Rae
Tamina
The Miz
The Rock
The Undertaker
Titus O'Neil
Triple H
Xavier Woods</font>

Evil Vito 08-16-2014 03:04 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I still think there are more to come, really. The roster selection screen showed 92 spots and this roster is about 60. If nothing else I think they may reveal some NXT people later. They confirmed you start My Career mode on NXT. If they don't have any NXT people you'll pretty much just be wrestling Xavier Woods and Tyson Kidd for weeks on end.

If that's the final roster though, it shows 2K's statement that they have a later cutoff date is complete bollocks. No Paige or Rusev who literally debuted the night after the normal cutoff date.</font>

whiteyford 08-16-2014 03:44 PM

DLC for them most likely.

Lock Jaw 08-16-2014 05:38 PM

I can't support a game that doesn't have Christian.

Emperor Smeat 08-16-2014 06:05 PM

http://i.minus.com/im8fx0PLg3enB.gif

Rock changed a lot ever since losing to Cena.

Cool King 08-16-2014 06:13 PM

I don't know how I feel about that roster.

It seems like a lot of names are missing and a few names there that personally, I don't think should be there.

Hulk Hogan
Kevin Nash
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Steve Austin

Why are they in the game? Not counting Sting for obvious reasons, but those guys have not had a match on WWE TV/been on the active roster for years now. And to a lesser extent, Booker T and Rey Mysterio.

Instead of those guys, we could have had Christian, Heath Slater, Sin Cara, Zack Ryder, Zeb Colter or Paul Heyman and Los Matadores. They're the first names that come into my head.

Fignuts 08-16-2014 09:46 PM

I'll give you Nash, but I think for the majority of people playing the game, having as many current performers isn't as important as having people who they would enjoy playing.

Most people will take Austin over Slater any day, even if Slater is more relevant.

Fignuts 08-16-2014 10:09 PM

No entrance videos or any footage at all, just render reveals and not even the full roster.

Considering how much this event was hyped, this has to be considered a letdown. And as a whole this has been one of the most poorly marketed games I've ever seen. Why, I don't know, because what little we've seen so far has all been great.

road doggy dogg 08-17-2014 02:52 AM

no WWE Paige = no buy

Mercenary 08-17-2014 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4490231)
no WWE Paige = no buy


they have like 30 spots to fill relax

Fignuts 08-17-2014 03:09 AM

Paige will definitely make it.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-17-2014 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4489850)
lol "Tyson Kidd.... you can see him alongside Natalya on Total Divas".

That's rough.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-17-2014 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4489955)
http://i.minus.com/im8fx0PLg3enB.gif

Rock changed a lot ever since losing to Cena.

When did Tamina turn into Lord Vigo from Ghostbusters 2?

whiteyford 08-17-2014 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4489958)
I don't know how I feel about that roster.

It seems like a lot of names are missing and a few names there that personally, I don't think should be there.

Hulk Hogan
Kevin Nash
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Steve Austin

Why are they in the game? Not counting Sting for obvious reasons, but those guys have not had a match on WWE TV/been on the active roster for years now. And to a lesser extent, Booker T and Rey Mysterio.

Instead of those guys, we could have had Christian, Heath Slater, Sin Cara, Zack Ryder, Zeb Colter or Paul Heyman and Los Matadores. They're the first names that come into my head.

You're always going to get Rock & Austin, and eventually Triple H, blame the Attitude era, but to the casual fan all the guys you listed are more recognizable than half the current roster. And they may as well milk the Legends contracts even if it's the same Legends pretty much year in year out.

Evil Vito 08-17-2014 09:34 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Heath Slater is the one "current roster" guy I'm fussed about. Regardless of when the cutoff was, he's been on TV seemingly every week since like 2012. His exclusion leads me to believe that 3MB wouldn't have made the cut even if they were still around, which is shocking considering some of the guys that did make it.

I'll be very bummed if there's no Rusev, Bo Dallas, etc. in the main game as well (not counting DLC). I would have pegged those guys for DLC initially but 2K outwardly stating that they had a later cutoff this year led me to think people who debuted soon after WM would make it in.

The other current guys are no great loss. I love Christian but he's practically retired it seems. Zack Ryder and Sin Cara have done nothing. I would have liked Los Matadores to beef up the tag division but realistically I don't know how much I would have used them.

Booker T, Ric Flair, and Kevin Nash were on the WWE.com list but not on the WWE 2K15 website, so I'm assuming there is going to be a proper legends reveal later. Vince will be in, he always is. Edge getting in wouldn't shock me either, he's one of only about 4 people left to be in every game so far. Oh and there is going to be a retro version of Triple H, his render was already shown.

I've never liked Legends being in these games and have said I could happily do without them, but at this point I've accepted that it's never going to happen.</font>

Cool King 08-17-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4490317)
<font color=goldenrod>I've never liked Legends being in these games and have said I could happily do without them, but at this point I've accepted that it's never going to happen.</font>

Ditto.

I've never really played as the Legends in past games, but when I do, I always face other Legends.

I really don't care about them as I've never really wanted to play a match and see Yokozuna vs Jack Swagger or Jimmy Snuka vs Brock Lesnar or whatever. They just seem pretty pointless to me and their slots could have went to the guys who are actually on the active roster.

Another thing I've never liked, but what I probably dislike more than Legends, is older versions of a wrestler getting their own slot. It's slowly grown and grown to a point now where it's "normal" to have a massive chunk of the games roster, be filled with older versions of wrestlers.

HCTP: Undertaker & Old School Undertaker
SvR: Kane & Masked Kane - Undertaker & Old School Undertaker
SvR06: Hogan 80's & Hollywood Hogan & Hulk Hogan
SvR07: Mick Foley & Cactus Jack & Dude Love & Mankind
WWE '12: Christian & Christian (Retro) - Edge & Edge (Retro) - Kane & Kane (Retro)
WWE '13: Big Show & Paul Wight - Bradshaw & JBL - Cactus Jack & Dude Love & Mankind - Chris Jericho & Chris Jericho '99 - Christian & Christian '99 - Edge & Edge '99 - Hunter Hearst Helmsley & Triple H & Triple H '99 - John Cena & John Cena '04 - Kane & Kane '97-'99 - Lita & Lita '00 - Mark Henry & Mark Henry '98 - The Rock & The Rock '98-'99 - Undertaker & Undertaker '97-'98
2K14: Big Show & Big Show (Retro) & The Giant - Brock Lesnar & Brock Lesnar (Retro) - Chris Jericho & Chris Jericho (Retro) - Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Hulk Hogan - John Cena & John Cena (Retro) - Kane & Kane (Retro) - Kevin Nash & Kevin Nash (nWo) - Macho Man (nWo) & Macho Man Randy Savage - Ric Flair & Ric Flair (Retro) - Scott Hall & Scott Hall (nWo) - Shawn Michaels & Shawn Michaels (Retro) - The Rock & The Rock (Retro) - Triple H & Triple H (Retro) - Undertaker & Undertaker (ABA) & Undertaker (Retro)

I can see why there were so many for WWE '13, as it was based around The Attitude Era. But with so many doubles, alongside guys like Val Venis, X-Pac, Too Cool and so on, why didn't THQ just make a game based solely on The Attitude Era, with no current guys on the roster? Sort of like a "WWF Attitude 2" or "WWF No Mercy 2", so to speak. That probably would have sold quite well, and they could have also released WWE '13 that would feature the current guys.

As for 2K14, a game which I've barely touched, I just want to point out that the entire roster (including DLC), consists of more "old" wrestlers, than current wrestlers. To me, that's pretty bad.

I just don't get their infatuation with including former talent in the latest games, when we could finally have a game that features every single person that's on the current roster and some from NXT. :-\

James Steele 08-17-2014 11:18 AM

I like having the legends.

whiteyford 08-17-2014 11:23 AM

I get the point with some of them, differing movesets/wildly different appearances, but for the most part they shouldn't be getting their own slot for each version just because one has a ponytail and the other version doesn't. I'd rather they varied the Legends they used if anything, I don't care about Jimmy Snuka give me someone like Stevie Richards or Raven, who can have as many character slots as he likes, instead. I don't care about losing job guys like Ryder though.

Razzamajazz 08-17-2014 11:25 AM

I don't mind the legends so much, except for them having multiple characters for the different versions. It fucks up my universe mode when I want one of them to be active in it. They could just have the different clothing or music or whatever as alternates instead of a different character slot.

Cool King 08-17-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4490340)
I get the point with some of them, differing movesets/wildly different appearances, but for the most part they shouldn't be getting their own slot for each version just because one has a ponytail and the other version doesn't. I'd rather they varied the Legends they used if anything, I don't care about Jimmy Snuka give me someone like Stevie Richards or Raven, who can have as many character slots as he likes, instead. I don't care about losing job guys like Ryder though.

Now, if they had to include older guys, I'd be all up for seeing guys like Richards or Raven appearing in games.

whiteyford 08-17-2014 11:40 AM

Charge 89 pence/cent a superstar and flood the store with random midcarders and variants, I'd buy Max Moon and the new Midnight Express plus Jim Cornette as the NPC manager, they'd make a killing signing up guys that work the indys now.

cnoslim 08-17-2014 12:23 PM

No road dogg and billy gunn -- they were active up til wrestlemania wasn't they?

XL 08-17-2014 12:55 PM

Not so cut up about Legends vs. current roster as long as there are enough "new" guys/first appearances in the games.

This time we have Bray, Harper and Rowan, Woods, and Sting. That's not a whole lot. Whilst having Austin, Rock, Hogan is great, it's not new.

Purgatory 08-17-2014 12:56 PM

I could do without the legends if it means having the current roster included. I didn't really futze about too much with the Create A Story either because my 360 doesn't support USB keyboard use. Hopefully the Xbox One version supports this.


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