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BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 03:00 PM

TNA Changing Forver....Yeah, Right...
 
Quote:

Source: Marc Middleton

We've pretty much heard this one before, but TNA President Dixie Carter is hyping more "big" changes to happen in TNA. Dixie also wrote that she has a nice surprise planned for Slammiversary this weekend.

Here's what she wrote early this morning:

"It's 6:30 am. Been up for hours. So excited I can't sleep. TNA's about to change forever. Can't wait to share it w/you, my staff, the talent"
I doubt I'll be shocked. Although, I'd love to be wrong.

Purgatory 06-11-2010 03:13 PM

Nah, you're right. Noone will be shocked.

Even less will care.

Loose Cannon 06-11-2010 03:13 PM

I am going to change your thread title if you do not mind. I was abou to make this same thread as I couldn't tell what yours was about. But I had just clicked on yours just to make sure

yea, we've heard this 10 times over this year. Not really excited

Volare 06-11-2010 03:13 PM

I wanna watch this, just to see another ultimate FAIL.

KIRA 06-11-2010 03:15 PM

TNA "changes forever" every other week:nono:

Xero 06-11-2010 03:16 PM

ROH will invade and destroy the ring, lead by Christopher Daniels.

Wouldn't hate it, to be honest. Complete nXtWo rip off but if that were it I'd let it slide.

Wolfpack423 06-11-2010 03:16 PM

The only thing to me that could be truly shocking for TNA is if Batista defected from the WWE and joined them at Slammiversary. That literally could be the only thing that would shock me.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3107231)
I am going to change your thread title if you do not mind. I was abou to make this same thread as I couldn't tell what yours was about. But I had just clicked on yours just to make sure

yea, we've heard this 10 times over this year. Not really excited

It's all good man. I'd love to be wrong, but I doubt and care so little that I'm not going to tune in or even read the spoilers. Unless it get's some major press from the IWC, non-TNA marks.

south776 06-11-2010 03:18 PM

Jim Ross

Xero 06-11-2010 03:18 PM

TNA needs to do something so big that it gets non-fans and former fans (the most important fans at this point) talking. Not Monday Night Wars 2 big (before it happened), but even bigger.

Something that would turn the wrestling world upside down.

Short of bringing Vince McMahon himself on-screen with a stable of The Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, John Cena and The Undertaker, and booked by the WWE creative team lead by Paul Heyman, it ain't happening.

Droford 06-11-2010 03:19 PM

Vince McMahon buys TNA and TNA allies with NXT in a fued with WWE.

TNXTA

WWE Squashes the alliance and then TNA ends up on SyFy Tuesday Nights.

Tuesday Night Action, only on SyFy

KIRA 06-11-2010 03:20 PM

Hmm lets see who's no compete clause is expired?

Xero 06-11-2010 03:21 PM

Can't be Ross because he signed with WWE. He can do anything but wrestling - MMA (probably not UFC though), football, etc.

I think Batista's contract runs through July or August.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 03:23 PM

Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.

Nicky Fives 06-11-2010 03:24 PM

Moving to Monday nights..... oh wait... they already did that......

Xero 06-11-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 3107257)
Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.

They think "shock value" is hotshotting the title to someone everyone loves and then dropping the ball in terms of momentum after the event.

Xero 06-11-2010 03:25 PM

WE'RE MOVING TO TUESDAY NIGHTS! WE'RE GONNA START A TUESDAY NIGHT WAR!

NXT! WE'RE COMIN' FOR YOU, NIGGA!

Rollermacka 06-11-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfpack423 (Post 3107241)
The only thing to me that could be truly shocking for TNA is if Batista defected from the WWE and joined them at Slammiversary. That literally could be the only thing that would shock me.

Noo, they have stolen an even bigger star...
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Volare 06-11-2010 03:29 PM

Here's your big fuckin surpise.


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VSG 06-11-2010 03:38 PM

Definitely will have to be an ex-WWE guy/gal but even the Mickie James/Shelton Benjamin crew are within their 90 day no-compete period.

Joesgonnakillyou 06-11-2010 03:38 PM

It's a goldberg heel turn!

Xero 06-11-2010 03:38 PM

lol Vol

tjmidnight420 06-11-2010 03:40 PM

Russo publicly humiliated and shot out of a cannon, and Shane O Mac named the new head writer. That'd get my attention, to say the least.

Loose Cannon 06-11-2010 03:41 PM

no way it's some mid card WWE guy/gal. TNA is pretty dumb, but I don't think they would be that dumb with an annoucement like this. got to be some kind of other thing that's not a particular wrestler

Xero 06-11-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3107300)
no way it's some mid card WWE guy/gal. TNA is pretty dumb, but I don't think they would be that dumb with an annoucement like this. got to be some kind of other thing that's not a particular wrestler

So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107304)
So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

:lol: I don't know why but that made me laugh.

Loose Cannon 06-11-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107304)
So are you being sarcastic or just finding out about TNA?

lol I know they are idiots, but no way she sends this text out and they deliver fucking Shelton Benjamin.

Razzamajazz 06-11-2010 03:48 PM

remember way back in early 2001 to the announcement that would CHANGE ECW FOREVER!!!11!1!!

it was rvd returning

Jeritron 06-11-2010 03:54 PM

I'm going to make my prediction here and say that it's going to be something regarding format, or the actual nature of their product that will be the absolute nail in the coffin for them.
It will be some ridiculous concept like not having a ring, or having it be in a cage like UFC or something.

Kind of going out on a limb, but I can see TNA being desperate enough to fuck with the product this badly. They seem to be crazy enough to do something like that, and move completely away from wrestling.
I think I've even heard Bischoff throw around ideas like that somewhere before.

Vastardikai 06-11-2010 03:55 PM

They're either:

A. bringing back the 6-sided ring
B. Debuting the 8-sided ring
C. Bringing back Awesome Kong for a One-Night Bra and Panties match with Rosie Lottalove.

Jeritron 06-11-2010 03:56 PM

It would actually be hilarious to see them start throwing shit against the wall hoping it will stick, in a last blaze of trainwreck glory before the end.
Doing away with the ring, getting rid of all titles, etc.

Jeritron 06-11-2010 03:58 PM

Allowing fans to vote on who is champion, rather than who gets a title shot, would be wonderful

Xero 06-11-2010 03:58 PM

They should do a contest where a group of 10 people from the IWC get to book a month's worth of TNA shows. The best script gets put on TV, untouched.

Xero 06-11-2010 03:59 PM

I've actually considered a promotion booked entirely by the IWC. Like fans write in whatever direction they should take with a character or who should win a match. The entire show being a community effort. I don't think it could work legit, but it would be fun.

Kane Knight 06-11-2010 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 3107257)
Has Dixie thought that by building it up like this, she's setting herself up for a major disappointment for the fans? Shock value comes from not knowing something big is coming at all, that's what makes something truly shocking IMO.

Hype can work, too, but even if it's a big surprise, it'll probably be diminished by the use of the same trick for everything TNA's ever done.

Razzamajazz 06-11-2010 04:02 PM

going the way of wcw: starting over from scratch

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 04:02 PM

As funny and crazy as all of those ideas are, sadly, I wouldn't put any of it past them. I wonder if they actually realized how bad they've fucked themselves over lately, or if they're in denial.

Ultra Mantis 06-11-2010 04:02 PM

I expect this is a 3 Count reunion, with Mike Knox playing the role of Tank Abbott and Jeff Hardy replacing Evan Karagias. They will perform Jeff's new song and announce they will be doing so after every match on every episode of TNA Impact, changing the company forever or something.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107328)
I've actually considered a promotion booked entirely by the IWC. Like fans write in whatever direction they should take with a character or who should win a match. The entire show being a community effort. I don't think it could work legit, but it would be fun.

It would be fun. Hell, I'd participate most likely.

Jeritron 06-11-2010 04:03 PM

At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:06 PM

It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3107339)
At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.

Agreed. I watched a majority of the first Monday night in Jan when Bret/Orton weren't on RAW. I would occasionally tune in when they were ORIGINALLY on Thursdays and Mondays and every so often would be entertained/interested by something. Slowly though, the Monday night shows went down hill and I stopped watching altogther. I know I haven't watched AT ALL since they moved BACK to Thursdays.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:11 PM

Honestly, I was watching it more on Mondays than I am now. Though that was more because I was in chat and it was something to talk about than the show being good.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107342)
It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

I believe they call that panicking. :eek:

Droford 06-11-2010 04:13 PM

TNA Survivor - every week someone gets fired off the show until either they start making money or they fire everyone.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:15 PM

They call it "we're going to try to compete with WWE for no real reason".

Let's face it, for at least the past four years they've been trying to compete with WWE. Instead of worrying about what WWE is doing they should look at themselves and try to better their own product.

The biggest mistake was when they shifted from the more indy-style wrestling to more full-on Sports Entertainment. That's the mistake that's the root of all of TNA's problems. Not Hogan, not Bischoff, not Russo, but the direction of the company as a whole.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107342)
It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.

If I may expand apon this thought. Also, you know what a real surprise is? Not even telling me there is going to be a surprise.

Hearing "WAIT TILL YOU SEE THIS SHOCKING TURN OF EVENTS AT SLAMFEST 2010, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND," sets up a sense of this needs to be huge and game changing, and by this point, nothing they can do short of the immossible like bringing out HHH and Shane McMahon would do that, or killing a guy.

They need to learn from nWo, instead of trying to copy nWo. You know what made nWo great? One day Scott Hall just shows up and says "You know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here," then declares war on WCW. That is a real surprise.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:20 PM

Hell TNA debuted Angle right. He just came out and head butted Samoa Joe. That is a debut. When you hype a debut, it is almost always lack luster.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:22 PM

Well, technically they did that video package before Angle debuted...

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:24 PM

Oh yeah.

But anyhow my point is TNA has mastered the art of ruining their own surprises.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:27 PM

It is bad when I don't even need to watch TNA and still know everything they are doing wrong.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:27 PM

Yes they have.

The internet is ruining TNA. But not in a "the IWC ruined wrestling" way but in a "TNA is ruining themselves by being online" way.

TNA is an example in how you DON'T take a company online and integrate the community into the business.

WWE got it right. TNA are fucking idiots.

VSG 06-11-2010 04:32 PM

I would probably die from laughter if it turns out to be Lex Luger/Macho Man.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:32 PM

I still don't really understand how TNA is making money.

Xero 06-11-2010 04:33 PM

Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural modern day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:33 PM

Why would they bring Macho Man back again?

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107384)
Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural moder day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.

Surprised TNA doesn't just post the results for the next few weeks of tapes on the website.

Loose Cannon 06-11-2010 04:48 PM

TNA should just make a reality/comedy show about TNA. I would be more interested in watching the booking team trying to prepare for the next show then the show itself

Xero 06-11-2010 04:49 PM

lol a recap show where they have random non-TNA-employed guests shit on the show.

Wait, no, they should do every show MST3K style!

Jeritron 06-11-2010 04:53 PM

an MST3K wrestling show would be fantastic. I'd love to be one of the commentators

BollywoodSingh 06-11-2010 05:19 PM

TNA usually delivers when they have tease a big announcement except the few times where the surprise was the announcement of a timeslot change. I doubt this will be any sort of surprise that will change TNA forever, but it still has the potential of at least being a major announcement/surprise. I doubt it's Benjamin or Mickie James or anyone like that because they can't really tease that as changing TNA forever.

parkmania 06-11-2010 05:45 PM

The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

owenbrown 06-11-2010 05:45 PM

so Hogan's gonna win the title on Sunday huh? that's probably the big surprise

Xero 06-11-2010 05:59 PM

But that's not a surprise.

That's not a surprise at all.

BigDaddyCool 06-11-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3107462)
The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

Yeah, I understand TNA is to busy scrambling to make a dollar now and passing up chances to make much more down the line.

Savio 06-11-2010 06:11 PM

Ken Shamrock is returning

Savio 06-11-2010 06:11 PM

Is Paul Heyman free?

KIRA 06-11-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3107488)
Is Paul Heyman free?

Yep hoping for that or shane but its a looooooonnng shot

Swiss Ultimate 06-11-2010 06:29 PM

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TheZman 06-11-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3107239)
TNA "changes forever" every other week:nono:


Kane Knight 06-11-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3107462)
The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.

They're not thinking period. Crying wolf every week just means nobody's going to be tuned in when they finally offer something.

The Pope 06-11-2010 07:52 PM

It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)

taker707 06-11-2010 08:19 PM

Dixie Carter President of TNA Wrestling Just hung up with Spike TV President, Kevin Kay. He is all in and agrees this will change TNA on every level.

From Dixie's facebook

Londoner 06-11-2010 08:21 PM

They'll just copy wwe's nxt invasion in some way.

Volare 06-11-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3107612)
It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)

I can see that happening, since this is their version of Wrestlemania even though it can't even come par to a "In Your House" PPV this is the perfect time when every TNA fan is watching....so they can rejoice with their mark friends.

Loose Cannon 06-11-2010 09:05 PM

please no more ECW stables. that's played out now

Xero 06-11-2010 09:08 PM

It's either a new show, new timeslot or something else network related. Otherwise she wouldn't be teasing with Spike TV's President.

Droford 06-11-2010 09:11 PM

WWE Group and they can insinuate that Vince is trying to mess with TNA just like WCW did with the NWO before Vince sued them.

McLegend 06-11-2010 09:12 PM

Six sided Ring

Jordan 06-11-2010 09:38 PM

I would give TNA yet ANOTHER chance if the surprise was Heyman has joined and is writing the show. So I hope that is the announcement.

I could see it being Booker T or Scott Steiner or both back in TNA, but that wouldn't be something a Spike TV executive would cream over.

Also, I could see it being a rip off of WWE's Guest Host feature, you know the one we all love so much.

Xero 06-11-2010 09:38 PM

From PWInsider:

The word we are getting is that the big change that Dixie Carter is tweeting on her Twitter account is not something related to Slammiversary but something that is much bigger for the company as a whole.

There has been a lot of talk that the company has reached out to people to enhance and/or overhaul the creative end of the company and we can confirm that the two most prominent names discussed internally are Kevin Sullivan and Paul Heyman.

As we have mentioned previously on the site, Heyman has been on the TNA radar for a while now. The story we have gotten is that for Heyman to come in, he would need complete control of the creatiove process (or at least as much as a booker can have in 2010). We can also confirm that they have spoken with Sullivan as well.

We will have more on this story as soon as we can confirm it.
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Hmmmm...

Xero 06-11-2010 09:41 PM

From Piper's Twitter:

I am getting ready to come and entertain yo all round world..Think I will take the week off.go to rhe gym..hug my kids..help somone if I can

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HMMMMMM...

Xero 06-11-2010 09:44 PM

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...-jeff-hard.jpg

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

Xero 06-11-2010 10:13 PM

From PWInsider:

After our report earlier tonight concerning TNA's surprise, we heard from a number of people in the company stating that whatever they have planned it's bigger than a change in the creative process. As always, we will continue to follow this story moving forward.

Tazz Dan 06-11-2010 10:58 PM

Shawn Michaels is coming in to feud with Ric Flair. I'm calling it now.

Xero 06-11-2010 11:02 PM

Good idea, Tazz Todd.

Tazz Dan 06-11-2010 11:12 PM

TD Fact: James is my middle name. Because it's not cool enough to be a first name. ;)

Xero 06-11-2010 11:13 PM

James technically isn't my first name. :p

Rev. Hallowell 06-11-2010 11:17 PM

Former WWE Star shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two weeks, loses to next former WWE star who shows up, gets monster push, wins title in first two week, loses to next former WWE star who shows up...

Tazz Dan 06-11-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107792)
James technically isn't my first name. :p

FUCK YOU. :mad:


:shifty:

:naughty:

:drool:

;)

FearedSanctity 06-11-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3107722)
From PWInsider:

After our report earlier tonight concerning TNA's surprise, we heard from a number of people in the company stating that whatever they have planned it's bigger than a change in the creative process. As always, we will continue to follow this story moving forward.

Oh god, Bischoff didn't buy the company, did he?

Tazz Dan 06-11-2010 11:45 PM

Also, I'm calling Bryan Danielson debuting now too.

PullMyFinger 06-11-2010 11:48 PM

Maybe an Ultimate Fighter type show?>

FearedSanctity 06-11-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3107846)
Also, I'm calling Bryan Danielson debuting now too.

Even if he did get released:

1. 90 day no-compete clause
2. Danielson doesn't effect TNA "on every level"

Stealth-Icon 06-12-2010 12:09 AM

Hogan is going to be ranked number one on the viewers poll for the World Title.

Tazz Dan 06-12-2010 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearedSanctity (Post 3107856)
Even if he did get released:

1. 90 day no-compete clause
2. Danielson doesn't effect TNA "on every level"

1. It was a joke.
2. See number 1

FearedSanctity 06-12-2010 12:42 AM

Riiiiight :shifty:

Lock Jaw 06-12-2010 12:43 AM

NXT will invade TNA

Tazz Dan 06-12-2010 12:43 AM

:eek:

Tazz Dan 06-12-2010 12:44 AM

Maybe they signed Steve Blackman?


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