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Evil Vito 06-29-2010 12:00 AM

Wow, guess the McIntyre angle was based on reality (UPDATE: Out til SummerSlam?)
 
<font color=goldenrod>FROM THE FRONT FUCKING PAGE

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Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett have been pulled from WWE television as their current work visas have expired and they are no longer eligible to work within the United States. In the case of Barrett, he has returned to Great Britain while he awaits a new visa to be cleared. Meanwhile, McIntyre is still believed to be in United States.

According to company sources, no timetable has been set regarding their respective returns.

More shortly.

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Umm, shit. They need to get Barrett back ASAP. Think the Raw GM will have to ban the Nexus until Barrett is cleared to return, which sucks.</font>

VSG 06-29-2010 12:04 AM

Interesting turn of events, also explains why Cena got another title shot and not Wade.

jskinnyg 06-29-2010 12:06 AM

But once those Visas are cleared.. They'll be back pronto...

Evil Vito 06-29-2010 12:09 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Visas can take ages to be cleared in some instances. Hope that's not the case here.

Guess we'll find out next week. If the GM simply suspends them all, we'll know it might be a bit of a wait.</font>

VSG 06-29-2010 12:09 AM

They took the liberty of using it on Mcintyre, I guess his push is over for now. A shame actually, he was pretty good.

Evil Vito 06-29-2010 12:11 AM

<font color=goldenrod>What puzzles me though - isn't an expiring work visa something you would see coming well in advance?</font>

Droford 06-29-2010 12:13 AM

A Valid Work Visa: Never leave England without it!

RGWhat316 06-29-2010 12:23 AM

WTF? I hope this all clears out soon. Or else we will see another Angelina case in which they dont come back for a few months.

Skippord 06-29-2010 12:27 AM

Justin Gabriel got his work visa in order

clearly he should be the new Nexus leader

DAMN iNATOR 06-29-2010 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3138764)
What puzzles me though - isn't an expiring work visa something you would see coming well in advance?

I'd say there's a pretty good possibility of one not even thinking about that sort of thing in their line of work, no matter how temporary a work visa may be, given time taken up by traveling nearly every single day and performing as often as they do (300 or more days a year on average) would. They already have quite a bunch on their plates as is without worrying about things like that.

CSL 06-29-2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3138835)
(300 or more days a year on average)

It's not 1988 anymore son.

Kane Knight 06-29-2010 01:20 AM

Barrett's one of the guys from Nexus I'm really enjoying. I hope this doesn't kill his momentum, or the rest of the group.

Ambivalent to McIntyre.

Mr. Nerfect 06-29-2010 05:59 AM

I like both Barrett and McIntyre. I hope to see both back eventually. I wonder if this will effect their standing in the company, though? It's got to throw plans out a little bit, and that has to stress some people out.

ClockShot 06-29-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316 (Post 3138776)
WTF? I hope this all clears out soon. Or else we will see another Angelina case in which they dont come back for a few months.

I too thought of Angelina Love when I first read this.

Wade Barrett is an important player right now. Hope he gets this all worked out quick. If not, gonna be tough to find a new mouthpiece/leader to the group to keep this storyline going.

Skippord 06-29-2010 07:57 AM

Michael Tarver

Innovator 06-29-2010 09:55 AM

Isn't McIntyre married to Tiffany? So he's still state-side then, just can't work?

Loose Cannon 06-29-2010 10:23 AM

wow what the fuck???? The top two guys of the group gone within a few weeks of the angle starting. hopefully he's back shortly

erickman 06-29-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3139102)
Isn't McIntyre married to Tiffany? So he's still state-side then, just can't work?

yeah thats what i was thinking he should be getting a green card soon.

erickman 06-29-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3139120)
wow what the fuck???? The top two guys of the group gone within a few weeks of the angle starting. hopefully he's back shortly

now we have a contest who will be the last nxt 1 standing my money is on tarver

Rollermacka 06-29-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3138790)
DJ Gabriel got his work visa in order

clearly he should be the new Nexus leader

As far as a new leader goes, I'd say Otunga is the next best talker.



Side note, hasn't Barrett and McIntyre both been in development for years? Maybe it's me but doesnt it seem odd that now there both getting deported now when there both on the main stage?

Swiss Ultimate 06-29-2010 11:52 AM

It's a work. Just like Bryan Danielson.

Savio 06-29-2010 12:18 PM

lol, just move all raws to England...or Canada if he can work there.

Vastardikai 06-29-2010 02:26 PM

Now, if Justin Gabriel gets injured doing a 450, we will know that NXT 1 is cursed.

XCaliber 06-29-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3139207)
lol, just move all raws to England...or Canada if he can work there.

You need a work visa in Canada too and you could easily wait a few several years to get it so no go there. This is yet another unfortunate setback for nXt cuz his lack of presence did make a difference this past week. As for McIntyre oddly enough since his feud with Matt I was really starting to like him but now he's lost momentum all of a sudden.

Evil Vito 06-29-2010 08:47 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Update on the Visa Troubles with Barrett & McIntyre, Sheamus News
Posted by LordsofPain.net on June 29, 2010 at 7:18 PM

- Word is that WWE creative has been told not to expect Wade Barrett or Drew McIntyre back until after SummerSlam in August. It’s still possible they could be back sooner.

This is bad news with Barrett being the leader of The Nexus stable and with the new report that McIntyre was scheduled to win the SmackDown briefcase at WWE’s Money in the Bank pay-per-view.

A fan saw McIntyre in Scotland this weekend so apparently he’s back home also.

There has been some speculation that WWE Champion Sheamus may get caught up in the same work visa situation but the feeling from one WWE source is that either WWE caught it on Sheamus’ end while missing it on Barrett & McIntyre’s end, or Sheamus was proactive in bringing the situation to WWE’s attention and they handled it without thinking about Drew or Wade.

Source: F4Wonline.com

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...amus-news.html

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Uhh...yeah, Nexus is fucked. Just write them off next week and bring them back whenever Barrett is back. This sucks.</font>

Evil Vito 06-29-2010 08:55 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Written by Bryan Alvarez:

-- However, it seems that Barrett and McIntyre aren't the only ones in risk of being deported from the country. Some of our inside sources claim that more WWE superstars including Nexus member, Justin Gabriel (real name Paul Lloyd Jr.), Santino Marella (real name Anthony Carelli), William Regal (real name Darren Matthews), Ezekiel Jackson (real name Rycklon Stephens), and Yoshi Tatsu (real name Naofumi Yamamoto). According to one or more sources in WWE, it's possible that more are in danger of being forced to leave the country with visa work issues.

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WTF? How could all of these guys' visas be up at the same time? And furthermore, how could WWE take care of Sheamus and then ignore all the other expiring visas?

I'm calling bullshit. I'm certain Regal must be a US citizen at this point.</font>

VSG 06-29-2010 09:00 PM

I thought Big Zeke had citizenship as well? Something is going on here. This might be the "crazy situation" that had Vince's attention during the Daniel Bryan fiasco.

jerichoholicninja 06-29-2010 09:18 PM

Bryan will need to be brought back just they have enough wrestlers to put on a show.

Krimzon7 06-30-2010 01:09 AM

I told you this was a work! This all has been done to keep you smarks on your toes!

Emperor Smeat 06-30-2010 02:20 AM

Shocked that nobody in the WWE caught onto any visa issues especially with how a few months ago TNA was in a similar situation by forgetting about Angelina Love's visa. The TNA issue should have made whoever is in charge of WWE's foreign talent do a quick check on the visas just to prevent any issue in the future at the time.

WWE could always run a mini-storyline where every member of the Nexus who has met with WWE officials ends up getting suspended since it happened with Bryan when he felt sorry for his actions and now with Barrett meeting with WWE officials. It would let them also include Gabriel if the visa isn't cleared in the near future.

Kane Knight 06-30-2010 02:28 AM

Oh Jesus. Lords of Pain? Really? Come on, Vito....

FearedSanctity 06-30-2010 03:01 AM

Sucks to lose Barrett, but a really easy story fix. Since he's the leader just "suspend" him indefinitely for the groups actions and have the group lay low for a week or two.

If Gabriel's visa becomes an issue, have him be the (preferably non-speaking) leader of a PG brutal attack and have him hit with a suspension also.

Then just keep Nexus out until Barrett returns or use them for off-screen attacks, or have certain wrestlers "no show" RAW due to being attacked before getting to the arena.

Easy fix to the whole situation and keeps the story alive and adds different twists to avoid getting stale, while also buying time until Gabriel and Barrett's shit is straightened out and Danielson's return.

Lock Jaw 06-30-2010 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3139740)
<font color=goldenrod>Written by Bryan Alvarez:

-- However, it seems that Barrett and McIntyre aren't the only ones in risk of being deported from the country. Some of our inside sources claim that more WWE superstars including Nexus member, Justin Gabriel (real name Paul Lloyd Jr.), Santino Marella (real name Anthony Carelli), William Regal (real name Darren Matthews), Ezekiel Jackson (real name Rycklon Stephens), and Yoshi Tatsu (real name Naofumi Yamamoto). According to one or more sources in WWE, it's possible that more are in danger of being forced to leave the country with visa work issues.

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WTF? How could all of these guys' visas be up at the same time? And furthermore, how could WWE take care of Sheamus and then ignore all the other expiring visas?

I'm calling bullshit. I'm certain Regal must be a US citizen at this point.</font>

Calling it now. Over the next few weeks, all those names will be reported as having been deported and having expired visas.

The group will then invade the United States, flip over a few trash cans, deface a bus, and beat up various businessmen (careful to avoid their ties). This will result in them getting their papers and being cleared to work.

Mr. Nerfect 06-30-2010 03:49 AM

I can't see this actually being the case, but if all the visas are up at similar times, then I assume that it is the WWE's fault, and that they normally catch these sort of things and don't leave it to the talent. Also, for the record, there was that rumour that if William Regal got his third strike on the wellness policy, he would have to find work in TNA or go back to the England. Something like that.

Just re-debut Drew McIntyre with Vince McMahon when his visa is cleared. Wade Barrett can be "suspended" until it is time for him to make his return -- shocking everyone by randomly appearing on a PPV and cashing in his title shot to get the WWE Title, forcing the WWE to re-instate him.

FourFifty 06-30-2010 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3139740)


WTF? How could all of these guys' visas be up at the same time? And furthermore, how could WWE take care of Sheamus and then ignore all the other expiring visas?


What you have to consider in this mess is the ginger works out with the boss' son in law.

XL 06-30-2010 08:05 AM

I really don't buy that every foreign talent in the WWE (bar Maryse?) is facing deportation. I'd guess that the "dirt sheets" are employing a lot of guess work when mentioning the names of Gabriel, Regal, Jackson, etc.

DAMN iNATOR 06-30-2010 08:35 AM

Unless, like Noid said, WWE is responsible for all those guys' work visas and making sure they get renewed before they expire, which to me seems pretty highly likely. Now I don't know if any of those guys listed in the new report are actually facing the expiration of theirs or not, but if they are, either they or WWE had better do what they need to in order to keep the guys able to work in the US.

Kane Knight 06-30-2010 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3140477)
What you have to consider in this mess is the ginger works out with the boss' son in law.

you can also consider that he might have a more recent visa.

This could mesh with Noid's theory, or it could not. Either way.

Innovator 06-30-2010 09:19 AM

How long are work visas usually?

VSG 06-30-2010 09:27 AM

Depends on the nation you are from and its relations with USA.

RGWhat316 06-30-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3140559)
How long are work visas usually?

I thought they lasted a while. That is what happened in Angelina Love's case. She was still on her WWE visa, and TNA didnt bother getting her a new one.

parkmania 06-30-2010 01:11 PM

If Barrett is going to be out a while, I could see WWE making a MitB match at the PPV with the remaining Nexus members for his title shot.

Kane Knight 06-30-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3140749)
If Barrett is going to be out a while, I could see WWE making a MitB match at the PPV with the remaining Nexus members for his title shot.

I hope they don't. They tend to abandon plans too fast.

Mr. Nerfect 06-30-2010 10:15 PM

Yeah, they shouldn't bail on Wade Barrett as NXT leader yet. They have something to actually build his heat up. Just have him give someone else the title of NXT leader while he is gone. David Otunga would make the most sense. They cut promos about how the WWE is trying to keep back Barrett, but they are working on ways to bring him back. Michael Cole can sheepishly add that Otunga went to Harvard Law school, so he is looking for a way past Barrett's "suspension."

You could even have Barrett occasionally air a video taken from England talking shit to the WWE. Then you just have him slide into the ring at SummerSlam or thereafter, after John Cena has either won the WWE Title or successfully defended it. He picks up Cena for The Wasteland, nails it, and we have a new WWE Champion.

parkmania 06-30-2010 10:43 PM

For the record, I'm not necessarily in favor of my idea, it's just something that I can definitely see the WWE writers going with - especially since it's being "reported" that the scripts are being written more short-term than ever before.

Evil Vito 06-30-2010 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3141563)
For the record, I'm not necessarily in favor of my idea, it's just something that I can definitely see the WWE writers going with - especially since it's being "reported" that the scripts are being written more short-term than ever before.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah. I always thought there was a mastermind behind the Nexus, or at least somebody who planted this idea in their head...I figured they'd drag it out a long while but if Barrett is going to potentially be out until mid-August or later, I think they might reveal that person sooner rather than later.

Jericho seems to be the likely choice, given that he was the Pro of the Season 1 winner and was the only guy on the roster not out there when Bret sent the entire roster out to watch the ring.

Not that I want them to go that route, but IF they were going to - I could see the Raw GM "suspending" Barrett and then borrowing some familiar faces on SmackDown and making the remaining Nexus guys compete in a 7-on-6 handicap match against the Season 1 Pros. Jericho turns on the WWE guys, and bam...you have your mastermind.

Hope they don't rush it...although it would be good to have a guy who can definitely talk. Otunga and Tarver are okay, but they are nowhere on par with what Barrett was on the mic. Jericho could fill that void.</font>

Mooияakeя™ 07-01-2010 05:05 PM

Man, I thought the UK-US "special relationship" would help out here. Come on the US has "no closer friend". pfft. What a crock of shit. I feel ripped off.

On a side note, Regal should really have rights to take American nationality by now? Ain't it something like 10 years before you can become naturalised?

XL 07-01-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3141516)
You could even have Barrett occasionally air a video taken from England talking shit to the WWE. Then you just have him slide into the ring at SummerSlam or thereafter, after John Cena has either won the WWE Title or successfully defended it. He picks up Cena for The Wasteland, nails it, and we have a new WWE Champion.

I just had the same idea about the videos. Wonder how long they could make that last for though?

RatedGSuperstar 07-01-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooияakeя™ (Post 3142401)
On a side note, Regal should really have rights to take American nationality by now? Ain't it something like 10 years before you can become naturalised?

You can become eligible to apply for naturalization if you've been a full-time resident for at least 5 years. Wiki lists him as residing in Fayeteville, Georgia, but even if he is living here full-time I don't imagine he has a lot of time to take the necessary test. I know he's married with kids, but I don't know if his wife is a citizen or not.

Kane Knight 07-01-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3142408)
I just had the same idea about the videos. Wonder how long they could make that last for though?

They could probably pull it off for a month or so. Which means it'd be a winning idea if they're already on it, and not so much if they're not.

Shadrick 07-01-2010 08:42 PM

Or they could just resolve his visa issues and he'll be back on Monday >_>

Kane Knight 07-01-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3142493)
Or they could just resolve his visa issues and he'll be back on Monday >_>

And if they can, awesome.

Mr. Nerfect 07-01-2010 11:18 PM

They have, apparently. The same goes with Drew McIntyre, who will return when creative find room for him. I'd personally have him cost Matt Hardy a grab at the briefcase in Money in the Bank -- or have him mysteriously added to the match as a ninth participant.

Kane Knight 07-01-2010 11:21 PM

So was there anything past the "he may return as soon as Monday," or are we just taking another portion of a rumour out of context and running with it?

Seriously, because I read and have commented on the portion where he might be back soon, but that was far from definitive, even as rumours go.

Mr. Nerfect 07-01-2010 11:27 PM

Granted, some rumours are bullshit, but this one is pretty clear-cut: The visa issues have been cleared up, and Barrett may be back as soon as Monday. If he's back on Monday, we know it's true. If he's not back on Monday, we know it's not. Simple.

Kane Knight 07-01-2010 11:32 PM

So either you're completely missing the point or you're being a dick.

Good, I can go back to not paying attention to you.

Mr. Nerfect 07-01-2010 11:57 PM

Wow, you were paying attention to me? How the mighty have fallen, KK? You can't be so sensitive about people being dicks, right? I mean, seriously -- you care if someone is a dick to you?

What more do you actually want from that report? A copy of Wade Barrett's visa? A comment from the US government? The rumour (and it is just a rumour) says that Barrett might be as back as early as Monday. It's pretty self-explanitory. If you want someone to hold your hand and tell you whether or not to believe it, wait and see.

The Mackem 07-02-2010 06:57 AM

Somebody would be sacked at our place if they let work permits expire. Slack business practice by WWE if it's true. Even more stupid if someone has leaked it and it's easily resolved. Would make for a great storyline though.

Evil Vito 07-02-2010 11:37 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Hopefully he is back on Monday, or if not then soon thereafter. I'm not sure anybody else really could handle the leading duties.

Otunga is the best talker, but can't back it up when the time would come to wrestle (and if he became the leader for now, he'd presumably be in a big match). Sheffield and Tarver aren't bad talkers, but they come across as the enforcers of the group and that would be lost if one of them lead. Gabriel is too nervous on the microphone. Young also isn't that good on the mic and looks too goofy to be the leader. And nobody should have to take orders from Heath Slater.</font>

Kane Knight 07-02-2010 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3142571)
Wow, you were paying attention to me? How the mighty have fallen, KK? You can't be so sensitive about people being dicks, right? I mean, seriously -- you care if someone is a dick to you?

What more do you actually want from that report? A copy of Wade Barrett's visa? A comment from the US government? The rumour (and it is just a rumour) says that Barrett might be as back as early as Monday. It's pretty self-explanitory. If you want someone to hold your hand and tell you whether or not to believe it, wait and see.

Wow. Total spazz out.

I love how you took my thoroughly neutral position and made it about me demanding proof, though. I suppose it takes that kind of idiocy to go from Zero to WARGARBL in thirty seconds, though.

Mr. Nerfect 07-02-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3142949)
Wow. Total spazz out.

I love how you took my thoroughly neutral position and made it about me demanding proof, though. I suppose it takes that kind of idiocy to go from Zero to WARGARBL in thirty seconds, though.

That wasn't spazzing out, dude. You're horrible at putting things into context. But hey, let's just pretend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3142934)
<font color=goldenrod>Hopefully he is back on Monday, or if not then soon thereafter. I'm not sure anybody else really could handle the leading duties.

Otunga is the best talker, but can't back it up when the time would come to wrestle (and if he became the leader for now, he'd presumably be in a big match). Sheffield and Tarver aren't bad talkers, but they come across as the enforcers of the group and that would be lost if one of them lead. Gabriel is too nervous on the microphone. Young also isn't that good on the mic and looks too goofy to be the leader. And nobody should have to take orders from Heath Slater.</font>

It wouldn't be a permanent leadership for whoever took over. That's why I think Otunga is the best choice. He's just the best talker. You wouldn't need him to get in the ring. He could take a backseat driver kind of role.

Deciding their ranks by their order of elimination is also an easy way to go about things. Barrett won, he's the leader. Then you've got Otunga, Gabriel, Slater, Young, Sheffield and Tarver (the enforcers at the bottom). It seems to work well enough.

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-05-2010 04:21 AM

I think the NXTers seemed a little bit lost without their leader on Raw. The attack on the legends took a lot longer then it should have. I'll be glad if he's back on Raw this Monday.

As for Drew, I thought he was supposed to be getting some time off to go on a Honeymoon. So, I say give him a little bit more time off to celebrate. Not sure if the INS would like if WWE announced that Vince McMahon got him out of his deportation.

Good thing Wrestlemania happened in Arizona after that immigration law passed. :D

DAMN iNATOR 07-05-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3146256)
I think the NXTers seemed a little bit lost without their leader on Raw. The attack on the legends took a lot longer then it should have. I'll be glad if he's back on Raw this Monday.

As for Drew, I thought he was supposed to be getting some time off to go on a Honeymoon. So, I say give him a little bit more time off to celebrate. Not sure if the INS would like if WWE announced that Vince McMahon got him out of his deportation.

Good thing Wrestlemania happened in Arizona after that immigration law passed. :D

Well, I don't know how much credibility to give it, but there's a report on the front page saying Barrett should be available for use tonight, and same with McIntyre for tomorrow's SmackDown! taping.


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