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UFC 141 Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem
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Brock Lesnar vs Alistair Overeem? December 30!! OH SHIT!!!latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/20… http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/1...819_normal.jpg danawhite Dana White Brock Lesnar vs Alistair Overeem, Friday, Dec. 30 in Las Vegas. latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/20… wow |
That fight is going to do huge PPV numbers. Especially once Overeem starts getting the UFC hype up.
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Meh. Seriously, MEH. There's no way Brock can withstand a knee, much less a goddamn overeem right see what I did here? Bring car win or Mir in for the REEM....not Brock, Dana is cashing in on brock's dying fetal position legacy
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Brock is a dead man walking. He`s going to eat an UberKnee to the face and it`s going to be all over. |
Shock the world Brock.
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I take Brock, I think he wrestles him and wins and maybe even finishes him, Overeem's cardio isn't going to do him favours with Brock lying on him.
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I don't know if I'd be that shocked. Maybe mildly surprised... my eyebrow may be raised... I might say hmmm to myself... but I dunno about shocked.
All kidding aside, Werdum actually outstruck Overeem when they did stand up and outside of him, Overeem has fought absolute clowns the past 3 years. I think peeps get excited because he's jacked and won a kickboxing tournament while being given cans to crush in MMA by Strikeforce and Japan. Say what you want about Brock, but he's been battle tested against much better opponents and has the wrestling skills to fare pretty well. |
If Brock can get the take down early, sure, I could see him maybe getting a stoppage. If Overeem lands anything Brock is going to turtle up and I doubt Overeem punches himself out like Carwin did.
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Alistair Overeem is not the unrelenting Cain Velasquez.
I think Overeem is going to get taken down and Lesnar is going to ground and pound him out much like he did to Mir. |
Alistair Overeem better hope he knocks Brock out in the first round because if he doesn't Brock will beat him.
Overeem's cardio is highly suspect and Brock even after taking a 5 minute beating from Carwin still came out fairly fresh. Obviously, Overeem has what it takes to knock out Brock, and Brock isn't good at taking shots, and that's not one of those things you can easily learn. If I were to put money down, I would put it on Brock, but not without some trepedation. |
Overeem is not the same kind of striker that cain and shane are. Im not saying theyre better, but they are different. Much more aggressive and focused on just hands. Overeem is more calculating and likes to kick. Plus he doesnt wing the amount of power in his strikes that the other two guys do.
Lesnar was fucked because he got blitzed and either cain or shane wouldnt let up. He couldnt think and folded. If overeem thinks hes going to pick his shots, hes going to end up on his back before he can get off. |
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Still, your explaination will be one I use when discussing this with my MMA friends. Thanks. |
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im liking brock in this fight
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Never seen Overeem.
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Hey that rhymes
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This is incredible news. I love watching both these guys fight.
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Gotta give Reem credit, during negotiations Zuffa offered him the winner of Velasquez/Dos Santos as his first UFC fight and he turned it down because he wanted to get one more fight in for 2011.
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this fight sound like king kong versus gorilla but my opinions I think that Mr. Lesnar will defeat Ovareem because Lesnar has been working hard and has amazing staminas while ovareem get tired after one round because steroid muscle. Also ovareem cant wrestle but Lesnar wrestle legend but lesnar cant punch but I think this time Lesnar go to school and learn punch so he is world champions again.
predict lesnar make Ovareem submission for round two. this will be a fight for years. Am cant wait personally |
For the record, I'll be rooting for Brock, since he's the one who got me into MMA in the first place. However, I have no problem with Overeem becoming the next heavyweight monster, if he's up to the challenge.
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I predict a Kimbo vs. Houston level letdown.
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I gotta wonder about the shape both of these guys will be in. Lesnar seems to be headed down the Big Nog "can't stay healthy for the life of me" road and Overeem's cardio is probably end up being what costs him the fight. If Overeem can avoid the big bull rush early on and get a proper striking rhythm going, he could drop Lesnar early and then go to town with the g'n'p. Lesnar needs to draw this out and then hit the takedown when Overeem starts to tire.
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I never really like Overeem even back in his Pride days, but that is respect worthy.. Still think Lesnar will smash him though.. |
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I like.
Can see Lesnar pissing off back to wrasslin if he loses though, cant see him sticking around to be a gatekeeper. |
I think these two will be fighting in a crater. I cant think of a fight I have see with two bigger and stronger guys going at it. This is going to be a fucking show.
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Diverticulitis in the first round.
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I see Lesnar winning this. Overeem is not a fast puncher like Cain and even though he has power, Lesnar proved in the Carwin fight that he can take hard shots and come back from them. Overeem is not a good wrestler and will gas after the first round.
Basically this will be Carwin/Lesnar II, except Lesnar will probably be able to take control of Overeem and GNP him to victory. People are underestimating Brock. |
My biggest concern is the clinch. Nobody has seen how Brock handles a thai clinch, and Overeem can be lethal in it.
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Anything between round 1 through half of the second round it'll be Overeem winning. Beyond that the advantage has to go to Lesnar.
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So Overeem got a conditional license. He has 72 hours to take a urine test in the UK, then he has to pass a piss test in the U.S. and submit to two random drug tests six months after the fight.
Just to give you insight into how informed and prepared the conductors of the hearing were, one commissioner thought this was Overeem's first fight a heavyweight. |
WTF does the UK have to do w/ this though
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I guess because UK is an acceptable place to take these tests and it's closer to Holland than the US.
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He made it seem like the doctors in Holland weren't capable of performing the test NSAC wanted. The whole thing seems like it got blown way out of proportion though. Especially since Overeem submitted a blood test on November 23rd and that came back clean. |
The trouble is that he totally looks like he is on roids. When he was a 205er, it was so obvious that he was cutting too much weight. He'd dominate then gas almost immediately quite frequently. Then he got bigger and his performance improved. Still has crappy cardio, but he's definitely performing better. Honestly, he probably is, given how many people who fought at some point in Japan are well known users.
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Wait, this is on a friday?
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I guess a lot of people will be out partying or whatever during Saturday night since it's New Years Eve so they put it on Friday. That's my guess.
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I was watching the UFC 141 Countdown and it had footage of him winning the Strikeforce championship in 2007 and he was really big at the time but when you see him now it's like whoa, he actually got bigger.
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yeah its called working and out and going to the gym.
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You are a genius..
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Cool story bro.
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Overeem better take advantage of that 9zillion inch reach and not completely puss out
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So what? |
I seriously don't get why people insist on using his performance against one of the best kick boxers in the world as an example of why he won't beat Lesnar. Especially since Overeem has a knockout win over that same guy. It just shows a lack of insight about MMA on their part.
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Allister Overeem's reach is 81.5".. |
206 and 207 cm, respectively..
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Really? Could have sworn Overeem had a huge reach advantage over practically everyone in the universe.
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Brocks arms hang down to his knees..
Jon Jones has the biggest reach in UFC at 84"s.. |
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Call me a brock fanboy, but I see this as Brock reestablishing himself on top of the mountain. Dont see Brock beating JDS, but I think Brock will be able to take out Overeem.
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Not saying Overeem wouldn't piss hot if you caught him on a "training" day, but it is possible that at 6'5 with his frame he is capable of gaining and carrying that much weight. |
I didn't know he was the Strikeforce, Dream, and K-1 HW Champ..
Pretty impressive.. |
K-1 is impressive. The Strikeforce and Dream titles are jokes. He won the SF belt in '07 and didn't defend it again for 3 years. And Dream... Come on. Anything done in Japan after Pride doesn't mean a damn thing.
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I know, I know, Im just saying..
It's not like Paul Buenetello is a huge threat on the international HW scene.. |
I'm just as excited for Cerrone/Diaz. That fight is going to be fireworks. I'd give the winner of that the next shot at the 155 title after Edgar/Bendo get it on.
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WAR Diaz
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I have a hard time supporting anybody who is proud to be from a shithole like Stockton, but I love me some Diaz brothers for some reason.
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Welcome back Miguel Torres
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZrwYpUfc4y...Kw/s1600/4.gifThis is how the fight will go,
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vn1IJQaMYA...DY/s1600/1.gif http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MU4VT5SfrL...F4/s1600/3.gif http://i43.tinypic.com/vp89p3.gif OVEREEM LOSES of that I am sure. |
I wish Guillard/Miller was on this instead of Fox.
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Hate the Diaz brothers.
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Brock looking like a beasssst at the weigh ins
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Little bellend there..
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Lesnar bout to beat some ass. Brock's gonna show why Overeem's "accomplishments" are a joke and embarass him tonight. I have good money bet on Lesnar and thats probably the easiest bet I've ever won. Everyone thinks just because he lost to Cain, hes no longer one of the best and buy into the overeem hype.
Tonight the hype ends. Overeem's gonna know what the difference between UFC and Strikeforce in. |
Brock will turtle up
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I reckon it depends on how the surgery/recovery/time off affects Brock, and whether Overeem still gasses out early.
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Also, the loser of this fight should get Kongo next (assuming he beats Mark Hunt).
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I'm taking Brock but I would not be surprised if he got tagged and decided to turtle again.
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Even if he didn't turtle, I gotta wonder about his ability to stand with a K-1 grand prix champ. Both are good on top, but neither are great on their backs, so the striking sets them apart. Well, that and Overeem's gas tank.
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and Reem has never been rushed by anybody with even half the size, strength and wrestling ability of Brock. I had Brock stopping him in the 2nd round as soon as the fight was announced and I still think it'll go roughly that way. That said, I wouldn't particularly be surprised if Brock got killed inside a minute. Hotttt fight.
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I gotta believe Brock comes out strong. I would just come out and try to end the fight right away. No sense in prolonging this
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Bullrush FTW. Overeem's a cocky guy, so he may not have even been bullshitting when he said he didn't watch any tape. If he get's hit with a monster takedown right off the bat he has no chance at all. He certainly doesn't have Cain's wrestling acumen.
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I believe Brock can take.him down.. it all how he reacts to getting hit during his shot.. I agree that if Brock gets the early takedown it will be a long night for Overeem..
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"Sorry, the UFC on XBOX Live service isn't available right now, please try again later." :|
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Facebook fights just started, this card is pretty stacked in terms of "familiar names" even at this point on the card
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Didn't know the main shit's didn't start till 9:00 CT. I was looking at Pacific time.
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Links please?
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lol Dong Hyun Kim channeling Daniel San and knocking Sean Pierson silly with the crane kick
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