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Old 09-06-2011, 03:39 PM   #1
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UFC 141 Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem
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Brock Lesnar will return to the UFC octagon in a five-round main event Dec. 30 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, facing newly signed former Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem.
"Brock is a big name, a dangerous guy, and this is a dream matchup," Overeem told The Times on Tuesday, just after signing a standard UFC fight contract in the office of Chairman Lorenzo Fertitta. "Brock's a big guy, an exciting wrestler with his takedowns.
"I want to see this fight myself. Overall, I'm a different fighter. A striker, athletic, big. These are going to be two big trucks going at it on a collision course."
The 6-foot-5, 260-pound Overeem, 31, is a former K-1 kickboxing champion too, He most recently defended his Strikeforce belt in June with a unanimous decision over takedown specialist Fabrio Werdum, who had previously defeated Fedor Emelianenko.



Lesnar has been out of action since losing his UFC heavyweight belt to Cain Velasquez in October at Anaheim's Honda Center, suffering a return episode of the intestinal ailment diverticulitis.
The Dec. 30 winner will be first in line to fight the winner of a Nov. 12 fight between Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos.
"This is the fight the fans want," UFC President Dana White said. "Both of these guys are monsters. Can Lesnar take Overeem down?"
Fertitta said the Strikeforce belt won't be part of the promotion. The UFC has purchased Strikeforce.
"Our thinking when we bought Strikeforce was to give fans the fights they want," Fertitta said. "Obviously, Alistair's one of the best heavyweights in the world, but he also has that 'it' factor -- the tremendous look, he's huge. It's a star factor."
Overeem said he's exploring setting up training headquarters in Los Angeles.


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Brock Lesnar vs Alistair Overeem? December 30!! OH SHIT!!!latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/20…





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Brock Lesnar vs Alistair Overeem, Friday, Dec. 30 in Las Vegas. latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/20…





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That fight is going to do huge PPV numbers. Especially once Overeem starts getting the UFC hype up.
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Meh. Seriously, MEH. There's no way Brock can withstand a knee, much less a goddamn overeem right see what I did here? Bring car win or Mir in for the REEM....not Brock, Dana is cashing in on brock's dying fetal position legacy
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Brock is a dead man walking. He`s going to eat an UberKnee to the face and it`s going to be all over.
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Shock the world Brock.
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I take Brock, I think he wrestles him and wins and maybe even finishes him, Overeem's cardio isn't going to do him favours with Brock lying on him.
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I don't know if I'd be that shocked. Maybe mildly surprised... my eyebrow may be raised... I might say hmmm to myself... but I dunno about shocked.

All kidding aside, Werdum actually outstruck Overeem when they did stand up and outside of him, Overeem has fought absolute clowns the past 3 years. I think peeps get excited because he's jacked and won a kickboxing tournament while being given cans to crush in MMA by Strikeforce and Japan.

Say what you want about Brock, but he's been battle tested against much better opponents and has the wrestling skills to fare pretty well.
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If Brock can get the take down early, sure, I could see him maybe getting a stoppage. If Overeem lands anything Brock is going to turtle up and I doubt Overeem punches himself out like Carwin did.
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Alistair Overeem is not the unrelenting Cain Velasquez.

I think Overeem is going to get taken down and Lesnar is going to ground and pound him out much like he did to Mir.
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Alistair Overeem better hope he knocks Brock out in the first round because if he doesn't Brock will beat him.

Overeem's cardio is highly suspect and Brock even after taking a 5 minute beating from Carwin still came out fairly fresh.

Obviously, Overeem has what it takes to knock out Brock, and Brock isn't good at taking shots, and that's not one of those things you can easily learn.

If I were to put money down, I would put it on Brock, but not without some trepedation.
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Overeem is not the same kind of striker that cain and shane are. Im not saying theyre better, but they are different. Much more aggressive and focused on just hands. Overeem is more calculating and likes to kick. Plus he doesnt wing the amount of power in his strikes that the other two guys do.

Lesnar was fucked because he got blitzed and either cain or shane wouldnt let up. He couldnt think and folded. If overeem thinks hes going to pick his shots, hes going to end up on his back before he can get off.
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Overeem is not the same kind of striker that cain and shane are. Im not saying theyre better, but they are different. Much more aggressive and focused on just hands. Overeem is more calculating and likes to kick. Plus he doesnt wing the amount of power in his strikes that the other two guys do.

Lesnar was fucked because he got blitzed and either cain or shane wouldnt let up. He couldnt think and folded. If overeem thinks hes going to pick his shots, hes going to end up on his back before he can get off.
That's a good point, the thing I fear though is Brock bum rushing, like he did at the beginning of the Cain fight, and getting crushed with a well timed knee might put Brock down.

Still, your explaination will be one I use when discussing this with my MMA friends. Thanks.
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That's a good point, the thing I fear though is Brock bum rushing, like he did at the beginning of the Cain fight, and getting crushed with a well timed knee might put Brock down.

Still, your explaination will be one I use when discussing this with my MMA friends. Thanks.
I am not too sure Brock will bum rush him like he did Cain. I think Brock thought his best chance against Cain was exploding out of the gate and catching him early because he knew Cain had cardio for days. With Overeem, he's not known for great endurance so he may draw the fight out and test his cardio.
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im liking brock in this fight
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This is incredible news. I love watching both these guys fight.
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That's a good point, the thing I fear though is Brock bum rushing, like he did at the beginning of the Cain fight, and getting crushed with a well timed knee might put Brock down.

Still, your explaination will be one I use when discussing this with my MMA friends. Thanks.
I thought we were your MMA friends, slut.
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Gotta give Reem credit, during negotiations Zuffa offered him the winner of Velasquez/Dos Santos as his first UFC fight and he turned it down because he wanted to get one more fight in for 2011.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/69...t-dec-30-vegas
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this fight sound like king kong versus gorilla but my opinions I think that Mr. Lesnar will defeat Ovareem because Lesnar has been working hard and has amazing staminas while ovareem get tired after one round because steroid muscle. Also ovareem cant wrestle but Lesnar wrestle legend but lesnar cant punch but I think this time Lesnar go to school and learn punch so he is world champions again.

predict lesnar make Ovareem submission for round two.

this will be a fight for years.

Am cant wait personally
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:03 AM   #21
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For the record, I'll be rooting for Brock, since he's the one who got me into MMA in the first place. However, I have no problem with Overeem becoming the next heavyweight monster, if he's up to the challenge.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:31 PM   #22
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I gotta wonder about the shape both of these guys will be in. Lesnar seems to be headed down the Big Nog "can't stay healthy for the life of me" road and Overeem's cardio is probably end up being what costs him the fight. If Overeem can avoid the big bull rush early on and get a proper striking rhythm going, he could drop Lesnar early and then go to town with the g'n'p. Lesnar needs to draw this out and then hit the takedown when Overeem starts to tire.
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Gotta give Reem credit, during negotiations Zuffa offered him the winner of Velasquez/Dos Santos as his first UFC fight and he turned it down because he wanted to get one more fight in for 2011.

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/69...t-dec-30-vegas
Yeah..

I never really like Overeem even back in his Pride days, but that is respect worthy..

Still think Lesnar will smash him though..
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I predict a Kimbo vs. Houston level letdown.
you were expecting that to be a great fight?
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I like.

Can see Lesnar pissing off back to wrasslin if he loses though, cant see him sticking around to be a gatekeeper.
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I think these two will be fighting in a crater. I cant think of a fight I have see with two bigger and stronger guys going at it. This is going to be a fucking show.
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Diverticulitis in the first round.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:38 PM   #29
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I see Lesnar winning this. Overeem is not a fast puncher like Cain and even though he has power, Lesnar proved in the Carwin fight that he can take hard shots and come back from them. Overeem is not a good wrestler and will gas after the first round.

Basically this will be Carwin/Lesnar II, except Lesnar will probably be able to take control of Overeem and GNP him to victory. People are underestimating Brock.
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My biggest concern is the clinch. Nobody has seen how Brock handles a thai clinch, and Overeem can be lethal in it.
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My biggest concern is the clinch. Nobody has seen how Brock handles a thai clinch, and Overeem can be lethal in it.
Awesome point. A clinch could give us a heavyweight silva/Franklin to marvel at. I gotta choose Overeem. Even on the ground, the Reem's jits could prevail. This is an intriguing matchup
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Anything between round 1 through half of the second round it'll be Overeem winning. Beyond that the advantage has to go to Lesnar.
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this fight sound like king kong versus gorilla but my opinions I think that Mr. Lesnar will defeat Ovareem because Lesnar has been working hard and has amazing staminas while ovareem get tired after one round because steroid muscle. Also ovareem cant wrestle but Lesnar wrestle legend but lesnar cant punch but I think this time Lesnar go to school and learn punch so he is world champions again.

predict lesnar make Ovareem submission for round two.

this will be a fight for years.

Am cant wait personally
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you were expecting that to be a great fight?
Maybe not a good fight by MMA fan standards but I did expect a nice full blown slugfest there.
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So Overeem got a conditional license. He has 72 hours to take a urine test in the UK, then he has to pass a piss test in the U.S. and submit to two random drug tests six months after the fight.

Just to give you insight into how informed and prepared the conductors of the hearing were, one commissioner thought this was Overeem's first fight a heavyweight.
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:21 PM   #37
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WTF does the UK have to do w/ this though
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I guess because UK is an acceptable place to take these tests and it's closer to Holland than the US.
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"In Holland, you go to the doctor to request a test, and then you get permission to go to a facility, or the doctor can take your specimen for you," Overeem said. "Because that was not a full panel test, which I learned (later) because it was the first time I ever went through this procedure, we had to look for other options. Because this is the first time I've done this; I've never done a full panel steroid test in Holland, and the doctors here also did not know where we could do that. So my doctor made some calls and researched the subject. We found that we could do the testing in Germany in a laboratory, and there also it seems there were some complications.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/26523/alis...drug-tests.mma

He made it seem like the doctors in Holland weren't capable of performing the test NSAC wanted. The whole thing seems like it got blown way out of proportion though. Especially since Overeem submitted a blood test on November 23rd and that came back clean.
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The trouble is that he totally looks like he is on roids. When he was a 205er, it was so obvious that he was cutting too much weight. He'd dominate then gas almost immediately quite frequently. Then he got bigger and his performance improved. Still has crappy cardio, but he's definitely performing better. Honestly, he probably is, given how many people who fought at some point in Japan are well known users.
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