NFC East
 

Lets have an area to discuss probably the strongest division in the NFL. You have the revamped Redskins, the NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!, the Eagirls, and the Cowboys.

With guys like Portis, now Eddie George, TO, Eli, Warner, added to the mix, it looks like it is up for grabs.go big blue

Right now though on paper as much as I hate to say it, G-Men 4-life I would have to give the division to the skins.

Go Giants

Giants have an AWFUL season, 'Skins look good on paper but choke as usual, Philly DOESN'T make the NFC Title game and therefore doesn't lose it either, and Dallas does aiight.

I wanna say Dallas wins the division with Parcells winning ahead of schedule and all but I dunno. It will be them or Philly.

if you think any team other than the Philadelphia Eagles will win this divison, you are fucking retarded. the Eagles have a REVAMPED OFFENSE adding TO, regaining Brian Westbrook and with TO on the team, he single handly opens the field for Pinkston, LJ Smith, FredEx Freddie Mitchell and Buckhalter.
The defense which was completely destroyed is healthy and we added the pass rusher threat that we lost when Hugh Douglas left with THE PHREAK, Jevon Kearse. Plus, second year man Jerome McDougle is now healthy along with Jamaal Green, Paul Grasmanis, Hollis Thomas, Sam Rayburn. What we lacked at the end of the year was depth which wore everyone else (LBs and DBs) down. We REACQUIRED Jeremiah Trotter who was made for DC Jim Johnson's scheme. He provides depth and versatitly with the linebackers.
Plus not many people know that Taylor and Vincent were both down for HUGE portions of last season. Only playing together in 5 games! Brian Dawkins also were hurt, which means that Lito Shepard, Sheldon Brown and Clinton Hart (bench still) had lots of playing time and chances to progress... which they did considering we won 9 straight last year.

Also, if you look at the Eagles' schelude... it is unbelieveablly easier than any other team in the NFC East. For example, the Birds HOST Baltimore, Green Bay, Carolina, and others while Dallas plays Baltimore and GB ON THE ROAD!

This team is on a mission. There is no stopping them.

Eagles: Elite
Dallas: (as much as I hate to say it) good, rising, few more years
Washington: Joe Gibbs needs time to get back into the swing of things, plus many unwise signings, many vets
New York Giants: No offensive line, 1 Washed up QB, 1 Rookie QB, 1 TV QB.... no where near ready.... PLUS THE QUIT LAST YEAR AND THEY ARE PUSSYS. NY should be ashamed of them for quitting.

Don't even think anyone other than the Birds will win the Division (4 Straight) and go far.... this time REALLY FAR into the Playoffs.

I am a G-Men fan. I think that T.O. is a bitch. Last time we played his ass we ruled him until the gay defensive coordinator changed to zone coverage on one of the last plays. Our D can shut him down anytime.

Clinton Portis is the real deal, he will win the Skins 3-4 more games than usual.

Dallas repeats last year, either that or worse. There is no way they can do better with their QB situation.

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Let's go Giants!!!!

The G-men are coming back to the form of 2 seasons ago. No O line? You will see, oh yes, you will see.

They are pretty strong overall, but no team from the NFC East has a shot at winning the NFL Championship except for MAYBE the Eagles, but I don't see them ever getting past the NFC Championship game.

Cowboys still have a question mark at QB, I just don't think Quincy Carter is really all that good. Plus their RB situation improved, but anything was an improvement over Hambrick or whatever his name was. Redskins have gotten better but I am not sold on Burnell coming it at all, I think they shoulda just stuck with Ramsey. If he had some protection last year things would have been a lot different. Giants aren't going to do shit in the NFC East IMO...Cowboys, Redskins and Eagles are all a lot stronger them

Eagles
Redskins
Cowboys
Giants

Eagles fans are awesome.

They're like Red Sox fans.

They're never hopeful, they're always cocky that THIS IS THEIR YEAR.

And we all know that added players make your team better. :nono:

Basically, every team has up and down periods. Giants are heading for a down, the Skins are going to flop again IMO, and the Cowboys and Eagles are a top the division right now. A few years down the road this is going to change. With the exception of maybe the Cowboys still being decent, if Parcells sticks around that long.

I read someone on ESPN actually said that picking up TO changed everything about the Eagles, and changed Andy Reid's philosophy, and altered the team completely, but he was glad.

What happens if Andy Reid can't get to sleep in the bed he's made for himself? What if he CAN'T coach TO and this Eagles team? What then?

It's very easy to do, too. If you can't make it with the talent you've got, then what's missing isn't talent. The Patriots and the Bucs and the Rams did it on their own. The Bucs picked up Brad Johnson who was basically a cast-off... McCardell definitely was; the Rams did it with Marshall Faulk and Kurt Warner, both cast-offs (Faulk was kicked out for being too old, and replaced with Edgerrin James. Good one, Colts).

Redskins have been loading up on imported talent, stealing it from other teams. The players aren't allowed to grow together, so they can't play as a team, and when the sport they're playing is the most dependent on trust and teamwork of any sport ever, then that can lead to a major problem.

The Gmen are going back up, up and up.

The Giants should definitely look into rebuilding.


They need a new HB, new WRs, and new lines on both side of the ball.

Oh and new linebackers.

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Shut up Bean. You don't know what you're talking about.

We definitely need to look into a new HB and some WR's. Ours are decent right now, but aging. We have a whole new starting linebacking corp and the new MLB Nick Greisen is going to look like a solid starter for years to come. We drafted Reggie Torbor out of Auburn, a specialist on defense that can rush the QB from the OLB spot. I hope Coughlin can take us to the promised land.

I also think that the Eagles are going to blow big dick this year.

Also to add, the Redskins just needed coaching, I think with Joe Gibbs they have definitely found it.

LOL Sensei Of Mattitude. It's like 2001, 2002, 2003 all over again.

I'm pretty sure TO "opening up the field" isn't going to stop Freddie Mitchel and Todd Pinkston from absolutely sucking.

Does anyone else remember that in the past NFC Championship games, the Eagles had a less than 100% Donovan McNabb (2002 with the ankle, 2003 taken out due to his ribs), does anybody realize that the Eagles went to 3 NFC Title games with James Thrash as their #1 WR? James Thrash. Are you serious? TO makes the entire offense that much better by getting extra attention his way. Double Teams Galore. Thats how he opens up the field.

Freddie Mitchell totally sucking? 4th and 26.

TO uncoachable? He has already bought into Andy Reid's system. He WANTED TO COME TO PHILADELPHIA TO WIN A SUPERBOWL. Why would he be uncoachable? He wants to do everything possible to win.

All of the other NFC East teams are just jealous that they are not as good as us.

Redskins: Not a Team, too much imported talent. Will eventually become team, but not now.
Dallas: QBs suck, RBs Suck, Old OL.
NYG: NO OL, Washed up QB, Rookie QB, no lines, older LBs.

Eagles over Seahawks in Conference Final.

I think your a bitch, bitch.

Clinton Portis looked pretty stellar last year (with the World Heavyweight Title belt on the sidelines) but lets see how well he does with the Redskins Offensive line thats blocking for him. Denver's line and scheme is unbelieveable. They made 3 or 4 different backs in 1,500 carriers. Portis, Anderson, Davis and wasnt there another one? Denver made the trade because they can make anyone succeed in their offense (Hearst). Lets see how the "Real Deal" Baby Ruth can do it with the Skins OL.

Dallas: unfavorable schelude. 9-7

... what?

and lol @ Freddie Mitchel not sucking simply because of the 4th and 27 play. As we all know, all football players are as good as the best play of their career.

DID YOU SEE THAT LAST SECOND TD AGAINST MINNESOTA!? JOSH MCCOWN IS THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE, OMG!

lol. Burn!

Greisen is the only weak linebacker if Green steps up on the weak side.

I think the o-line will hold up as long as Petigout's back holds, him and Snee would make a good left side of the line.

I've never been sold on Tiki. He's a great guy but the man has the most fumbles in the NFL. 17 in the past two seasons. That one game two seasons ago against the Eagles he had 4. Thats unacceptable and Coughlin knows that. He'll be happy to bench Tiki...leaving us with...Dayne.

Toomer and Hilliard are doing fine. Toomer's numbers dropped off because by week 6 the G-Men had no offensive line. Hilliard is still in his 20's.

As for QB, if the o-line holds Warner will also, making way for Eli.

Hmmmm...

Eddie George, 31 years old, cant break 4 yards per carry (3.6), declining steadily

Julius Jones, rookie, hasnt played in the NFL yet, where did he go to college?, they passed up Stephen Jackson for him?

Bickerstaff: injured

Cason: decent 3rd down speedster



Grade- THEY FUCKING BLOW, SO DOES THE TEAM

lol. Julius Jones was the ONLY good thing Notre Dame had going last year, you fool! And good job saying the team blows after already saying in this topic that they were "good and rising" and would go 9-7. NICE credibility there. So do you know ANYTHING about non-Eagles football?

I'm sorry #1-wwf-fan....

When I say 9-7 fucking blows, its probably because the Eagles have been 11-5, 11-5, 12-4, and 12-4 the past 4 seasons. We haven't experienced a shitty 9-7 season for a long time nor in the near future.

Oh yes, by the way, lets what what Julius Jones has. If he was so good, then why did Dallas sign Eddie George? Explain that.

Oh and one more thing...... what was Notre Dame's record last year? Yeah, thats what I thought. A great running back could carry his team to a couple more wins (Larry Johnson; PSU)



P.S. you mentioned earlier if Andy Reid could coach TO.... well lets see if Parcells can coach Antonio Bryant. He seems more of a problem than a guy who wanted to play for Coach Reid.

You fucking idiot.

Giants: Really, I would be willing to bet money that the Giants secondary can shut the Eagles WR's down. Easy. Two years ago when the Giants opened up the season with the 49er's we shut T.O. down the whole damn game going man up with Will Allen covering him all over the field. The other WR's did jack shit. Will Allen is capable of covering the best in the game, and he is going to be a shutdown corner down the road in a few years. Will Peterson, is a slightly bigger version of Allen, who is also a very exceptional cover man.

Our LB's aren't old at all. Barrett Green is in his prime. Nick Greisen is only around 25. Carlos Emmons is the only "old" guy of our group. If they mesh well, they will play well. We have a good rotation on our defensive line, and some very good up and coming talent as well as solid veterans. Our defense is going to be head and shoulders better than last year, that is for sure.

The question mark lies within the QB...we have an O-Line. Petitgout and Seubert are a hell of a couple of lineman. We picked up Shaun O'Hara from Cleveland, for center. David Diehl stepped in last year at G and played very well. We need to just fill the other T position.

You need to watch every game of your team to know them, and some of the points you people make are just utterly moronic.

Yeah... good job trying to backtrack. You still already called Dallas "Good and rising" so... it's not working dumbass.

They signed Eddie George because Parcells is smart enough not to start a rookie @ RB this year without absolutely needing to. Same reason Marshall Faulk will be starting in St. Louis. It's called depth.

And about a good RB being able to carry his team to a few more wins... seriously... WTF. Did you WATCH the games? Have you EVER seen him play? I'm guessing no. And by that logic, Ladanian Tomlinson must just be awful since his team was so bad last year. If he was good, they would have won a couple more games.

And as the final example of you being a complete blithering idiot... I NEVER said ANYTHING about Andy Reid not being able to coach TO, you retard. :|

Point is motherfucker.............

EAGLES WILL WIN THE NFC EAST, THE NFC, and THE SUPERBOWL

Suck on that.

like you did last year

lol. You are the worst poster of all time and when the Eagles choke again, I'll be laughing when you pussy out of commenting on THAT too.

On a slightly related topic... the 49ers could NOT win a road game last season... until they went into Philly... WITHOUT TO.

Have it

The Eagles will not even get as far as the NFC Championship game this year. McNabb is good, but he isn't even one of the top QB's in the league. T.O. is overrated and "The Phreak" gets turf toe walking across his kitchen. The Iggles are going to choke this year.

The last two comments have just made me laugh.

#1-wwf-fan..... whats the point of your statement that the 49ers didnt win a road game until playing in Philly without TO? TO broke his collarbone in the game. Whats that got to do with this year. Thats the game where Carlos Emmons broke his leg. Where Todd Pinkston was going into the end zone for a TD but fumbled and gave San Fran a touchback.
Whats any of this got to do with this coming season? Just because you dont like the Birds, you like to come up with out of nowhere, no sense comments. You must be super smart.

And Gonzo, thanks for your opinion but there is a reason why you aren't employed by the NFL, FOX, CBS or any other Sports network.

Considering that the Eagles have been in 3 straight NFC Title games means that the coaching staff knows how to run to a team. Andy Reid has lost veterans every year and replaced them with younger talent and have gotten better each year. Now they bring in PROVEN VETERANS who are DIFFERENCE MAKERS. Thats why the Eagles are ranked #2 in the ESPN Power Rankings only behind the Champs, the Patriots. Thats why the Eagles are picked to go to the Super Bowl this year by a handful of analyists.

I know you guys are jealous. You wish your franchise was this competitive.

Say what you will, but dont be bitter, baby.

No, I don't wish my franchise was like yours. Everyone has their time. The Eagles have blown theirs. They aren't going to go to championship games year after year. Jevon Kearse is plagued with injuries. T.O. can easily be shut down by good coaching. The Eagles will not do as good as everyone espects they will.

the Giants were picked to win the division last year, look what happened to them. Power rankings don't mean shit

The same could be said of you, dick.

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.... Anyways, I will give you the pleasure of answering your comment:

1) I never said I don't like The Eagles. I just don't like you, you annoying twit and hence, I will be loving when the Eagles choke again.

2) Owens is a great athlete with a shitload of talent... I find that he is a disease though. His attitude sucks and the 49ers played better without him and I DON'T think that was a coincidence.

Yeah, everyone is jealous of all of Donovan McNabb's superbowl rings.

lol

I have to bring this up. I've seen it said on TV, but would anyone be in agreement that they think the NFC East is the strongest division in football now? I do.

I think that the South could rival -- defending NFC champs, the totally retooled Bucs, the always-competitive :lol: 'aints, and the newly re-Vicked Falcons could all have 8 win teams at least.

I'd love to think the North can compete, as the Lions have Mooch and a LOT of talent.

I don't know much about the AFC, but the co-MVPs share a division, with young and constantly-improving Jacksonville and Houston... they are a division to watch.

But remember, any given sunday...

Even now, Sean Taylor and Brian Urlacher are injured. :nono:

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... sure they were.

They were you dick, coming off the playoff comeback with the 49er's. Obviously didn't go as well as some would have liked. You are an idiot. You don't even make sensible arguments. You are just blindly loyal to your team, which isn't bad I suppose, but if you are going to argue then be semi-intelligent instead of:

The Eagles are oging to win da Superbowl b/c we got THE PHRAEK AND T.O>!!!!11!!

Can someone clarify something for me?

The Eagles seem to have a history of injuries. Both of their CBs and their star FS last season, Brian Westbrook, Correll Buckhalter the year before... McNabb frequently is injured... they tend to have a lot of injuries on the Defensive line...

Are they playing on turf? :chin:

Because I get the feeling that Kearse might not make it a full season... and if he ends up slowed by injuries, remember one thing: The Eagles signed him for a very long time for a very large sum of money. :yes:

And when I mentioned Owens being coached by Reid... what I said was, someone on ESPN.com stated that Reid has changed his philosophy to fit TO into the scheme.

If Andy Reid has changed his philosophy to allow TO to run free... how will that affect the team as a whole?

What if he has to let Owens run his mouth and do whatever he wants, which leads to more and more players running their mouth, to the point where Reid no longer has any power?

Lots of what-if's... but we can speculate, because Andy Reid has admittedly changed his approach to coaching. This is not the same Andy Reid who makes it to the NFC championship every year. Oh no. This is an Andy Reid under the thumb of his star receiver. :yes:

T.O. is whiny, overrated and can be shut down when the opposing defensive coordinator is on top of his game.

You have over 7,000+ Posts on this message board. I have a mere 300+. You need a fucking life, loser.

You are even in a message board faction. Your case is bad.

As you can tell, I dont like you either. But your knowledge of the NFL is poor, at best.

300+ posts, all of them are moronic fanatical rants about your sports teams.

The only thing you accomplish by having 300 posts, is that your "bad-to-total posts" ratio is 1:1.

AlphaBean..... you bring a good post here. Some questions that I have the answer for.

1) Lincoln Financial Field has natural grass. They do not play on turf like they did at the Vet.

2) Jevon Kearse's contract is a 8 year deal with the last remaining years very backloaded. He agreed to the contract due to the nice $16 million dollar signing bonus we gave him. He played in 14 out of 16 games last year, racking up 28 tackles, 9 1/2 sacks, and 1 Int. And, no NFL contract is guaranteed.

3) When you add TO to a "spread the ball around West Coast offense", things will change a bit. More balls will be thrown his way than there were the way of James Thrash. But TO wont be "RUNNING FREE". At the press conference of TO's signing/trade/whatever, Coach Reid mentioned that he had a talk with TO and layed down how things will be done around here and TO accepted those "rules". San Francisco was TO's team. TO was the leader. Here in Philly... TO takes a backseat to #5. McNabb leads the team.

4) Andy Reid has complete control of the team. He is the GM as well as the Coach. He doesnt hesitate cutting players that are too much money (Taylor and Vincent), too old (Hugh Douglas) and too much of a problem (Trotter when he left). Andy Reid only answers to the higher ups (Jeffery Lurie, the Owner). He doesn't answer to TO, TO answers to Coach Reid and #5.

5) Injuries:

McNabb: Broken Ankle 2002 (threw 4 TDs with, I was at that game). Came back for the playoffs, was not the same. Wasn't the same until 7 weeks into season last week.
Injured Ribs, during NFC Title game, last hit by Panthers D-Lineman (I forget who.... one of the ends I think)

Westbrook: tackled by Trotter, Week 17, fell and tore tricep. Freak landing.

Buckhalter was not injured last season. He was suspended for the Week 16 game (49ers) for missing a meeting. Another example of Coach Reid showing his authority. Buckhalter did tear his quad during the 2002 Training Camp, leading to the Eagles signing Dorsey Levens.

The defensive line got ripped up last season. Hollis Thomas is repeately injured. One year his ankle, last year his shoulder. A big part of this season is for them to be healthy.

Kearse always has nagging injuries, never has been the same since his breakout season years ago. He is overrated. Premier DE should post 15+ sack seasons, which he didn't do.

Injuries are always tough, it happens to every team, it is a toss up and can't be helped I'm afraid.

Which still doesn't mean T.O. won't bitch about something. Just because someone else isn't the leader of the team doesn't mean he won't be a problem.

Im hurt. :rofl:

Like I care what you think about me. :p

From all reports (including his physical!) The Phreak is 100% Healthy.

Plus sacks arent everything for DEs. Just like home runs in baseball. It isn't the most important stat. The Phreak has been brought in to provide sacks, command doubles teams to free up the rest of the defensive line (Pro Bowler Corey Simon, Darwin Walker, ND Kalu/Jerome McDougale/Derrick Burgress) and provide pressure on the quarterback to allow the Eagles to blitz less and have the linebackers drop back into coverage. Thats why The Phreak is here.

Injures are toss ups and happen to all the teams. Not a lot of people realize that we have been hit with a lot of them the past 2 seasons and HAVE STILL GOTTEN TO THE NFC TITLE GAME.




By the way... TO has already bitched. The players are required to wear shorts during mini-camps. TO doesnt wear shorts, he likes his tights. Well guess what, after a discussion...... TO WAS WEARING SHORTS DURING MINI-CAMP.

Which doesn't make him invicible to getting injured anywhere from now till the season and during it.

I doubt it, Jim Johnson loves to blitz. The Eagles D will always be a blitzing team no matter what while he is coaching them. Kearse definitely doesn't warrant double teams anymore. He can be blocked by any solid T.

Can't argue there. You have had some impressive players step up.

This proves that he will wear shorts during mini-camp. This doesn't mean he can't be a nuissance during the season.

Did I say The Phreak is Invincable? No one is. We have experienced this with McNabb.

JJ loves to blitz yes. But with the younger Cornerbacks (who did play great last year), the Eagles want to keep pressure off of them. We acquired Kearse to provide more pressure on the QB so we dont have to keep blitzing. Our blitzs now will be out of control.

Kearse still warrants a double team. 2 teams who will double team him... Dallas and the NYG.

Thanks, the reserves do step up.

Heres the question:

Eagles win the game, with TO having 2 Catches for 34 yards. Is he happy? He should be because he wants the ring. It isnt about his stats. If he is happy winning the game and having small production, then there is no stopping the team.

That is yet to be determined. But from what TO says, he will be happy. He came here for the Ring.

Nah, you didn't say Kearse is invicible, but he surely won't be 100% healthy the whole season, I can almost guarantee that given his history.

I hate the fact everyone thinks the Giants line is shit, we have good players, just because we haven't had them playing together for some number of years means jack shit, seeing as how that doesn't happen hardly at all in the Free Agency Era.

The NFC is so closely knit that there is no way the Eagles are guaranteed an NFC Championship appearance again, much less a ring.

You cant "almost guarantee" Kearse will be injured. He has played 6 seasons and missed 14 games. Thats not terrible. You can spectulate and say maybe he will. But no "almost guarantee".

The Giants line has not played well. Plus they quit last year as did the team. The Eagles Oline has played together for the past couple of years now and they are a well oiled machine. They know how to play with each other. Now that Welbourne is gone (who was also injured last year, and replaced by Artis Hicks who played well) and Shawn Andrews is in, there will be some learning time for them. But its not as drastic as the Giants line is.

I dont think the NFC is so tightly knit. As I see it, the Eagles and Seahawks are elite teams. With a bunch of good teams in the Rams, Falcons, Panthers, Packers and Vikings. Can the "good" teams win, yeah because its happened. But dont hold ur breathe.

Falcons aren't that good, as aren't the Vikings, who seem to flop every year.

NFC Standings 2003:
Philly 12-4
St. Louis 12-4
Carolina 11-5
Dallas 10-6
Seattle 10-6
Green Bay 10-6
Minnesota was 9-7, one game off of the Pack

With teams being so even, it is not guaranteed. Like AB said, any given sunday...anyone can beat anyone.

but thats last year Gonzo

yes, i agree.... Any Given Sunday. I was at the Eagles/49ers game last year. I didnt expect the Birds to lose. They did, in OT.

But what im saying is.... at the start of this thread (which is titled NFC EAST) that the Eagles are the 3 Time Defending East Champs, and are the favorites to win it again and quite possibly to the Superbowl and IMO they will at least GET TO THE SB this year.

:rant:

The Vikings improved in every area, you bastard.

Some experts give them respect, others don't. It depends on how you value the talent they imported.

Denard Walker was the reason we didn't beat the Cardinals. I am pretty sure the reason we flopped was coaching inexperience. Majorly stupid decisions.

We don't flop. We choke. In 98, we were injured and the Falcons exploited the injuries by keeping our weak defense on the field longer. By the end of the game, half of our starters had to be carted off.

In '01, injuries slowed us, but a lack of unity killed us. John Randle and Cris Carter were both killing team morale. Our veteran leaders. The captains of both sides of the ball. Nobody wanted to win in 2001, because their leaders didn't want to win. :nono:

Can't forget, the Giants heard the Minnesota huddles. Kinda made for lopsided football, and since the Gints couldn't even manage to whimper against the Ravens in the SB, they proved they didn't deserve to be there.

hey Alpha, I agree the Vikings are improved from last year......

BUT

they are not one of the Elite teams

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In 98, we were injured and the Falcons exploited the injuries by keeping our weak defense on the field longer. By the end of the game, half of our starters had to be carted off.
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Injures? Overused defense?

Sounds like the Birds of last year. Excuses dont cut it in this league.

They had the #1 offense in the NFL last season, despite missing Pep for 2 games, Bennett for 7, and having no #2 WR.

We have a #2 WR, a fully healthy Bennett and Pep... and improved on defense bigtime.

So we are a top-5 team. Patriots own us, but the Eagles are lacking too much talent on both sides of the ball. Do they have a lot of talent? Sure. But they're not stronger anywhere than the Vikings.

Dawkins might be a step up from Chavous, but if Dawkins can stay healthy, he's still not better than both Chavous AND Russell... and the other safety for the Eagles... I forget his name.

Two practically rookie corners...

Actually I think what you have is a better coach, and that makes all the difference.

But if MN isn't elite talent-wise, then the Eagles aren't either.

[QUOTE=Sensei Of Mattitude] I didn't say they lost because of the injuries. I said that the Falcons exploited the thin and weak defense. They played brilliant football, and unmasked a very poor defense that used the best offense in HISTORY to pad their leads, so they could blitz and get interceptions. Teams abandon the run when you score 35 points per game.

*The Falcons didn't abandon the run.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Dawkins "MIGHT BE A STEP UP" from Chavous? Are you fucking kidding me? Brian Dawkins is one of the most feared safeties in the NFL. I dont hear anyone being scared of Corey Chavous. I have no idea who your other safety is. Russell? Whats his first name? Michael Lewis, our SS is a devasting hitter and was the "veteran" when Dawk, Vince and BT went down last year. Lewis held Lito, Sheld and Clinton Hart together.

The Eagles arent stronger in any area? Explain how that is so when your team was 9-7 and mine was 12-4 for the 2nd straight year. The Eagles have the most wins out of ANY TEAM IN THE NFL for the past 4 SEASONS!

All of the NFL pundits predict the Eagles in the Super Bowl. John Clayton from ESPN picked the Birds on a Fact or Fiction segment on SC.

Hey Bean..check this out...

Dont think the Vikings are all that because they have "The Next Big Thing"

Chavous made the pro bowl. I GUESS THAT ACCOUNTS FOR SOMETHING. He's constantly billed as one of the smartest players in the NFL. Russell led the league in Interceptions last season. :?: I guess that doesn't matter, since he didn't hold the team together.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Way to evade the question. The Vikings have been rebuilding. Last year they fell apart under a new head coach. If they do the same this year, he will be gone.

Vikings still match up favorably with the Eagles. Better CBs, better offensive line, better WRs, better HBs, the D Lines might be equal if not in Philly's favor, but the LB corps of both teams suck. Both teams have good safeties, with one pro bowler and one solid starter.

Oh wait, Akers is definitely better.

I hate to say this, because I know the Vikings are the most dominant team offensively, they still might not have what it takes to go all the way. Because of Mike Tice, and Mike Tice alone.

lol.

I bet you felt like you won the Superbowl after that, huh? The highlight of the history of the Cardinal franchise.

naw, actually, I just liked seeing the piece of shit local team do something of worth in the past 16 years.

lol. GREAT comebacks!

Despite the fact that I've pointed out multiple retarded things you've said and you've scared away from comenting on them, I'M the one with the poor knowledge.

Please note that you replyed at 7:30 in the morning. Thats bad.

You dont like me, therefore whatever I say isn't worth anything to you.

Well, we'll just have to wait and find out the second week of the season. September 20th, MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. Vikings vs Eagles

Oh yeah....... The game is in Philly.

Such an easy schelude.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking

POWER RANKINS:

1) Patriots

2) Philadelphia Eagles: With some big offseason acquisitions - Terrell Owens and Jevon Kearse - its Super Bowl or Bust for Donovan McNabb and the Philadelphia Eagles.

3) Colts

4) Broncos

5) Chiefs

6) Seahawks

7) Falcons

8) Panthers

9) Ravens

10) Titans

11) Dolphins (before Williams left)

12) Packers

13) Vikings

Yeah, what a schelude, dude.

The Eagles are strong, but I would bet money that the Vikings can rip them up in the air. Their secondary, while it may be good, is nothing compared to last year with Free Agent movements.

:|

It's just a list. Grow up, dude.

All I'm saying is, Vikings are wayyyyyyyyyy better on paper.

The problem lies in coaching though. Dennis Green would take this team all the way... to the NFC Championship game, and then lose.

On the subject of coaching, Andy Reid is in for some battles this year. Parcells already gave him trouble last year, but now Gibbs and Coughlin. This division has been touted as having the best coaches in the league.

I won't make that argument. I don't know who will win. Last time they met, Duce Staley shredded our defense.

But now we have Winfield who will shut down half of the field, and Williams who already has proven he can take Owens out of the game.

Our front 4 will be lacking Kenny Mixon :'( in week 2, but we'll have K-dub, Hovan, hopefully Udeze, and Lance Johnstone putting pressure on McNabb on every play. He should conceivably spend most of the game on his back, if he's not taken out of the game with injuries.

Westbrook is good, but he's not elite. Our LBs are fast and athletic, and Claiborne is borderline elite when he's healthy. By week 2 he should still be healthy, and Westbrook's talent will be matched up with the talent of our front seven.

And as you said, as it stands, the Eagles defense won't be able to touch the Vikings offense. If they execute.

Which I am afraid they won't... because I tend to get let down by my teams when in situations where there is trash talking. :(

Holy shit I never thought about that.

THREE old-school workhorses in the same division.

I hope they prove to the Iggles why preparation and discipline is better than throwing money at free agents.

Culpepper to Moss.

5 TDs for Moss?

like it matters. my pats are gonna win again anyways.

Correct.

I hate the Patriots so much.

I mean, I loved them in 2001 when they were underdogs... but then they became "dominant," and now it's basically a "given" that they're the best team in football. I can't stand that.

And now, what the fuck. I've been following Vince Wilfork for two years, hoping the Vikings would pick him up. They had the chance this year god damn it! :rant:

AND THEN. My favorite back in the league, Corey Dillon, becomes a Patriot...

:rant:

It's just not right.

Eh, Vikings destroyed the 'hawks last season DURING the late-season collapse, then we got better.

Talk shit, man.

Seattle fan. Eh, they should do decent this year. Win their division I would say. The Vikings could win their division too if they show up every Sunday and beat the Packers at least once.

Which team made the playoffs?

Good point. The Seahawks really proved their superiority by stumbling into the playoffs and making a huge impact.

"We're gonna WIN!"

:yes:

And the Vikings proved their unsuperiority by starting 6-0 and not making the playoffs.

Good point.

They beat the Seahawks though. :) Destroyed 'em, actually. Chiefs, too.

They have the talent to beat anyone, they just are gay and like to break my heart.

Heh I forgot the Giants handed the Vikes their first loss last year. :cool:

... What the holy fuck are you talking about. I replied @ 4:00... okay...?

And you're right. Your lame opinions are fine because they don't mean shit to me. It's the dumbass comments like calling the Cowboys "good" and then saying they "fucking blow" in the span of 2 posts, or even better, arguing about me saying Andy Reid can't coach TO when I NEVER even mentioned anything remotely close to it that show what a dumb shit you are.

Rams = NFC West Champs...AGAIN. :cool:

It would be possible if they didn't have the WORST coach in the NFL.

i'm so happy right now! I've put up with so many years or them doing shit all! PATS IN 05!

Martz sucks... I'd really prefer that they'd have fired Martz last year..then promoted Lovie..but..I mean.. we dont suck. He makes shitty decisions most times, but...I dunno.

I think Bulger is a bit overrated. Good... but overrated. Bad coaching can mean everything though. Martz is just awful. He is single handedly holding the team back.

Let's onside kick it with a 3-score lead.