Paul Heyman Released!!!!
 

I refuse to buy the ECW PPV now.

I haven't seen anything official yet...so I won't comment

If he is indeed gone, TNA'd be smart to open the door to him and give him a microphone. Seems there are too many ego's and/or ideas/directions in TNA to handle his input though.

OK, this has been discussed on here in like 3 different threads. We've been talking about this all week on here. He's not realsed, the WWE just has nothing to do with him and he is just sitting at home collecting money.

He's not realsed. The WWE just has nothing for him and he's just sitting home collecting his checks.

How do you know!

I need clafiaction! slowly going insane, i mean he's heindewanks manager so it's not like they didn't have anything for him

because Melzer reported it.

Phew

Breath Dave Breath

but that doesn't mean he won't get released. ;)

But with his mind and mouth, he is very dangerous and I don't think the WWE WILL let him go to another company.

Oh Shit, where's that paper bag

WWE are fools if they let Heyman go.

Bad Bad move if they release Heyman.

If this does happen it could quite possibly be the stupidest thing the WWE could do.

and WWE is known for doing stupid things

I don't buy it for a second. Heyman is way too dangerous of a commodity for WWE to just throw him out. Even if Vince and his yes-men don't like him, they know that he's got an incredible mind for booking, and he could be a major nuissance in the hands of, say, TNA (or if Turner ever gets his fed going). They're safer (in their opinion) just putting him on the shelf so that no one else can nab him.

Heh, Can ya imagine what wolud happen if the USA Network hired Heyman?

Whether Heyman gets released or not really doesn't mean much. The point is he's not being used right now, so whether or not he's collecting a cheque only makes a difference to Heyman, not us.

If there was another promotion out there which had a viable future I would be optimistic, but there isn't, so we're kinda SOL.

I hear Heyman wants to try his hand at other avenues of the TV business. That could be carny talk, but I wouldn't blame him if he wants out. Let Vince do his thing, if wrestling dies, it dies. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it if I were him.

I don't know about you, but I would LOVE Heyman to be released. I am usually upset when talent is released by the WWE, because I can't see them wrestle. The good thing about Heyman is that his talent can single-handedly rise TNA out of the shadows into the forefront.

With Heyman in hand, TNA could really start to do some damage to the WWE, and IMO, that would be great to start the flow of wrestling again.

ha!

TNA is worse than the WWE.

At least Hunter is a legitamate main event talent, in TNA you have to book everything so "Mr 3rd match on the card" can look like a superstar.

i predict a swerve

heyman will show up at the ECW payperview

lol... sure.

Anyway, I dunno. I've sort of given up on expecting good decisions made within the WWE anymore.

TNA is so better than WCW(last 5 years). Just because Hall,Nash,Jarrett on the roster people have something bad to say. Most of TNA roster never step foot inside a WCW ring.

And I get called a Meltzer wannabe or arse licker :p

Seriously though, he is friends with Heyman so if anyone is going to know the details, its Da Meltz.

Yeah, we should all refuse to buy the ECW PPV on those grounds...


...of course then Vince will stand up and say "see, nobody wants to see those ECW guys" and the next thing you know Rhyno and RVD are fired.

RVD will probably be anyway.

I wish I was Melzer. Probably would get to speak with Trish and "interview" her :naughty:

You could still try... ;) I mean, it'd be amusing to see you on the news charged with stalking someone... :D

I hope they release him. It's not like they'll let him do anything, so he'd be much more useful elsewhere.

He's in the same sort of boat as Heyman as far as i'm concerned.

A liability within the company, but far more dangerous outside of it

If they think they killed Van Dam, they'll let him go. Only problem is they can't because he isn't anywhere near his potential in WWE. The minute he leaves, it would be turned up 10 and the real RVD would be back.

If TNA get Heyman, that would be a promising outlook for the Jarrett's promotion. Couple that with RVD and Rhyno (if they get released) and you've got a legitimate WWE competition.

Not to mention other ECW guys that might go (Tajiri, Tazz, Dreamer)

If Tazz went to TNA, he might actually get to wrestle again.

Just don't hold your breath.

they didn't trust Vince Russo why would they trust Paul Heyman?

Ring oF Honor could use Paul Heyman. ROH has the greatest WRESTLING matches around but seriously lack in the character and storyline aspect that is needed in order get more than just the wrestling purist fans to attend their shows. Insert, Paul Heyman with some conterversal charcters/storylines and ROH could be better. They won't become competition to the WWE but they'll make more money.

Just so you know it was Tazz's decision to stop wrestling, not that of the WWE. He chose to become a full time commentator. He said he had lost the feeling when he was about to go out to the ring. So I would doubt that the prospect of wrestling in TNA would renew his desire to wrestle. Add the fact that his neck I believe is just as f***ed as Austin's.

Same here mate.

LOL Brian Gerwitz is a moron.

From the main page:

-Head writer of Raw, Brian Gewirtz has personally told the McMahons that he was opposed to bringing back Paul Heyman, because he felt that Heyman would create a competition between the brands and destroy and harmony that the writing teams/brands had built with one another.

THE IDEA IS TO CREATE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE BRANDS TO UP THE RATINGS YOU FUCKING MORON.

Sounds like someone is afraid for his job.

He knows if the competition was real that he'd be fired because Heyman's Smack Down would wipe the floor with his Raw. Just like Heyman's Smack Down has done every time Heyman gets a tiny piece of power.

I agree. If Heyman can increas einterest in SD!, LET HIM DO IT! If Gerwitz can't keep up, he obviously isn't good enough for WWE's standards. Let Heyman work on both shows if Gerwitz is scared of him. That way Brian's weaknesses won't be shown (actually they might if RAW doubles in ratings).

Anyway, how great would it be if Vince came out and cut a promo foring Heyman and about how RVD let the company down by not going to Iraq, so he strips RVD and Mysterio of the tag titles, which then pisses off RVD so he just goes all out and says "F*** Iraq. F*** your cheap tours. F*** you. I'm the whole f***ing show, and if you don't like it fire me, because I am done with your sh!t. Rey and I won those titles fair and f***ing square, everyone knows we're the f***ing best in the WWE." which leads to Vince getting ready to snap, before Tazz walks up behind him and locks in the Tazzmission while RVD and Rey start beating on Vince. Theodore R. Long then suspends the three because they're beating on his idol.

The next week on SD!, out comes Vince and publicly fires RVD, Tazz and Mysterio, before "This is Extreme!" plays as does a video highlighting RVD, Heyman, Mysterio and Tazz. Out comes RVD, Mysterio and Tazz and they demand they get their jobs back. Vince says no way, calls for security, but no one comes out. The Dudleys (Spike included), Al Snow, Lita, Dawn Marie, Chilly Willy, Lance Storm, Tommy Dreamer, Rhyno, Tajiri, The Undertaker, Simon Dean, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Steven Richards, Mick Foley and Nunzio come out slowly, with Undertaker bringing a security guard with him, then proceeding to throw him off the stage. The ex-ECW superstars (I don't think I forgot anyone), stand in the isle facing inwards as "This is Extreme!" plays again as Heyman make shis way to the ring smiling, with an ECW cap on. He then proceeds to throw copies of "The Rise and Fall of ECW" into the crowd. A pick-up truck then enters with large boxes filled to the rim with copies of the DVD, and Heyman then proceeds to get his followers (save Tazz, RVD and Mysterio) to take the DVDs through the crowd, giving them out for free as Vince McMahon screams that he payed for that DVD to be made, they're his.

Heyman then demands Vince hires him back, as well as Mysterio, RVD and Tazz. Vince then says he'll fire all those helping Paul right then and there, Heyman then says they'll just go to TNA. Vince then looks a bit worried before smirking and asking Heyman if he will run them into the ground, as well. Heyman then laughs and says he has a bargaining chip. Heyman then simply calls "Steve.", then out of the pick-up truck comes Steve Austin. I know a lot of people would be against the return of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but for something like this, him coming back, even if just for a night, would be GREAT, IMO, simply because of his name power, it would recreate the feeling from the Austin/McMahon feud, where if McMahon went straight out and fired Austin, he would just go to another company as their main draw and make them money, and take the fans with him.

Vince then re-hires Heyman, Mysterio, RVD and Tazz, and after a while he asks Heyman what he's still standing there for, he gave him what he wants. Heyman then says "Oh, we're not finished yet.". Heyman then demands they get their own timeslot. Vince looks shocked and pissed off at the same time. Vince agrees. Heyman then says he still wants his men and women to retain their placing on the WWE's current brands. Heyman then requests his own PPV. Heyman laughs as Vince McMahon OKs this. Heyman then requests that all the men he wants from ECW to be entered in the Royal Rumble. Vince then sputters "Yes, dammit!", Heyman then again goes "We're not finished yet. Steve." Stone Cold then gives Austin a Stunner as Paul Heyman then tells Vince they're now finished, and reminds Vince this is Extreme.

I know a lot of people would be against this, but if Heyman ran ECW solely by himself, and got two hours to showcase his talent, as well as having them appear on RAW and SmackDown!, you could really create something special, and I know a few people will simply post "ECW is dead.", but the WWE needs to do something interesting, and ECW could do this. Another idea is to not have the talent appear on RAW and/or SmackDown!, but to have them run-in and attack people randomly, without it turning too much into an invasion. Eventually it could turn to us randomly predicting matches where ECW wrestler(s) will run in and interfere. It could really be interesting. Heyman should then right SmackDown! as well (don't limit him just to ECW).

And you know who that prick Gerwitz's main supporter is right?

No who?

Heyman's worst enemy. :lol:

O so it's Steph

The WWE and Vince McMahon are forgetting what the roster split was supposed to be all about: introducing new superstars and creating more interest in the product as a whole by competition.

At the beginning of the split, I remember JR and King both making fun of Smackdown on Monday nights, while Tazz and Cole would crack jokes about the RAW show as well. These days there is no competition, and it seems like all the creative juices are being poured in RAW's favor with Smackdown being left to suffer.

This is such bullshit, and just one more sign that in a couple of years we won't have a major wrestling company to watch.

Yep. But seriously, you'd think Vince would understand that his daughter has NEVER run a wrestling promotion. Neither has Gerwitz. Vince may not like Heyman, but if he's going to let Stephanie run the company, he's got to get someone who can help her learn how, he just can't give her it on a silver plater and expect it to work.

I agree, Heyman isn't the best man for running a promotion, but when it comes to storyline writing, Heyman is one of the best, and he could really teach Steph and thing or two, and he could really help Gerwitz come up with some good stuff as well.

If I were Heyman, I'd try and patch things up with Stephanie, because quite frankly, I think Steph even appreciates what Heyman's done for this business, and understands he's a more talented writer than her.

Vince favors Gerwitz because he was a coffee guy on the set of Friends.

Hi! :wave: I think you may be giving Steph too much credit yeah she knows Heyman is a more talented writer than her all the more reason to get rid of him. :nono:

I hate to say this, but I think you're right. :(

Well, that could all change if Heyman got behind the wheel. Jerry Jarrett had a falling out with his son, and Dusty Rhodes seems to be doing a father-son thing while booking, sohaving Heyman handle it would make the promotion much more unbiased, IMO.

Heyman could really do wonders with what they already have.

No it's not.

Of course it would, but Jerry and Jeff would never give up control.

I think you're right. Someone will always try and remain in control there, but maybe if they brought Heyman in as a booker? I dunno, but I just watched the ECW DVD, and for some reason I really miss the old Heyman-run episodes of SmackDown!. Maybe it's just because they are the best editions of SmackDown! post-roster split.

Anyway, watching the end of that DVD, it seems Heyman likes to learn from his mistakes. If they put Heyman in control one more time, I really think it could work out.

Heyman is brilliant, but remember Heyman couldn't just "take over" a company like TNA or ROH...he would have rules and restrictions...

Even if the WWE released Heyman, there isn't a large enough audience to view anything Heyman does...he could show up on TNA and vent his frustration...but that doesn't mean most anyone would see it. Remember that casual fans are not us. We are the minority, and our undying love and loyalty to Paul is amoungst a very small percentage.

So them releasing Paul isn't ultimatly going to hurt the company much if any.

Jerry and Jeff Jarrett don't own TNA though. Panda Energy do so it's very possible they could hire Heyman to run the show.

Panda Energy? Running TNA? Is this another anti-WWF/E thing or is it seriously the name of the company?

I understand that, but I think Heyman NEEDS rules and restrictions to keep him from going overboard, but he needs to have that undeniable power as well.

And there's no doubt Heyman won't take much of a crowd with him to TNA, but with him behind the wheel, the product would probably attract a bit more talent, and Heyman could really turn TNA into a little goldmine. Better wrestlers, storylines, angles, gimmicks, matches, etc. are the first steps to becomming a successful wrestling promotion, and if Heyman can do that (and he has just about as good of a shot as anyone else), then I really think eventually TNA could be seen as viable competition to the WWE.

I think Heyman has some heat with the NWA fans I'm not sure.

I think Heyman has had heat with everyone in the wrestling industry at some point in time.

Several credible news sites are reporting Heyman is at Smackdown right now and there is a good chance he will be used as an on-air character tonight.

Are ya sure LC?

That sends warm chills up my spine. I hope he is, and I hope he returns to writing soon (I think he will eventually).

Humm, if this is true then maybe Heyman will be involved in the ECW PPW I hope :yes:

I hope he appears at New Year's Revolution in a role. I don't know why, but I can see him doing something in the Chamber. :wtf:

Substitute Lesnar for Austin. With Heyman managing the monster again, he really would have a bargaining chip :P

That's a good point, but Lesnar was never in ECW. And Austin was a bigger draw, I won't happen anyway, but we can all dream of Heyman and Vince in the ring together, watching Heyman semi-shoot.

So, think Vince would keep Heyman on the payroll doing nothing, to keep him from going to say TNA?

Thats pretty much what Vince has done for the past 3 years.

Yeah, thats pretty much what Vince has done w/ Heyman for the past 4 years. :nono:

I for one am going to make up my own story......


I'll just take this story....


And mix it with this story.....
Mix the genius of Heyman and the Billions of Turner and.....AHHHHHHH...there are those endorphins!!!! :)

VEL: YES

Turner said he's not doing wrestling again.

From 411mania.com

There's proof he's not released.

SPOILER WARNING:

























It's Heyman and Heidenreich vs. Undertaker on Smackdown!

I hope Paul Heyman blames Heidenreich for Undertaker harming him, next week and sets The Dudleys or Tazz on him as punishment.

Heyman at SD tapings
 

- Paul Heyman is backstage at the Mohegan Sun Arena in Mohegan Sun, CT for tonight's WWE SmackDown tapings.

It isn't known what role Heyman will be playing, if any, at the show tonight. According to sources, Heyman is expected to be on this week's episode of SmackDown.

We will have a full spoiler report from the show later tonight.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com

I'm merging this thread with the "Heyman" thread cause it's already there :mad:

k sorry o mighty lc... zit faced bastard:d

jk, dont even know u

He's still around and still being used.

I heard today on BTR that Heyman was suspended and allowed on SD only this week to finish his storyline with Heidenreich. As far as I know he's still suspended after this week, and there wasn't any info as to why he is, but I'll guess it was thanks to the dynamic duo of Stephanie and Gerwitz.

That's ridiculous. Gerwitz is afraid Heyman will cause competition between the brands, yet SmackDown! staff aren't allowed to listen in on the RAW writing team? That's somewhat hypocritical isn't it?

Dammit we can't have competition between the brands! This is an outrage! Think of the violent overtones...the sexual overtones! I mean if Heyman gets control he is chauvinistic towards Stephanie. We can't have this the WWE.

Yeah I know. God knows a little competition between RAW and SD would just hurt the ratings. :roll:

I know. God forbid we have SmackDOWN! beat RAW in the Nielsons.

And there's also the fact that if Brian Gerwitz can't keep up, he shouldn't.

Gerwitz and Steph now have nothing to worry about now don't they?

That's the thing, they did have anything to worry about. There was no reason for them to worry. EVERYONE knows Heyman is a creative genius, so why would you try and prettend it doesn't exist when your product can benefit so much from it?

WWE Logic here.

Remember?

Hey, Alieniod06! :wave: because, Heyman is more talented than both Gerwitz and Steph combined.

It's all about the game man. It's all about HHH. Noone on Raw is allowed to outshine him and havin Heyman on SD!... he would make other folks in there look good. Better than Triple H and that is a nono in the WWE.

Ya my have hit on something there superslim! I just gave ya some rep.

I guess that's pretty much a lot of the reason. :(