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Old 01-01-2005, 02:40 PM   #1
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According to "rumors" on 1wrestling.com, it's quite possible Paul Heyman is completely gone from WWE.

As has been covered pretty well the last few weeks, Heyman is no longer part of the writing team, nor does he travel on the road to work as Heidenreich's manager. In addition to that, it was recently discovered that his bio page on the SmackDown! superstar listing has been removed completely.

With rumors of an ECW pay-per view (the talk is a June PPV in New York City), one would wonder how it would be authentic enough without the touch or input from Paul Heyman. This is what many ECW loyalists were afraid of when hearing the rumors of WWE considering reviving the brand name under their umbrella.

Heyman has kept his contractual status with WWE relatively private, so no one knows for sure where he stands with the company right now. One would assume TNA will be jumping all over him if he is in fact completely removed from any WWE obligations
I refuse to buy the ECW PPV now.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:44 PM   #2
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I haven't seen anything official yet...so I won't comment
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:44 PM   #3
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If he is indeed gone, TNA'd be smart to open the door to him and give him a microphone. Seems there are too many ego's and/or ideas/directions in TNA to handle his input though.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:45 PM   #4
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OK, this has been discussed on here in like 3 different threads. We've been talking about this all week on here. He's not realsed, the WWE just has nothing to do with him and he is just sitting at home collecting money.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:47 PM   #5
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He's not realsed. The WWE just has nothing for him and he's just sitting home collecting his checks.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:59 PM   #6
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He's not realsed. The WWE just has nothing for him and he's just sitting home collecting his checks.
How do you know!

I need clafiaction! slowly going insane, i mean he's heindewanks manager so it's not like they didn't have anything for him
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:01 PM   #7
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because Melzer reported it.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:04 PM   #8
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because Melzer reported it.
Phew

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Old 01-01-2005, 03:08 PM   #9
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but that doesn't mean he won't get released.

But with his mind and mouth, he is very dangerous and I don't think the WWE WILL let him go to another company.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:23 PM   #10
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but that doesn't mean he won't get released.
Oh Shit, where's that paper bag
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:43 PM   #11
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WWE are fools if they let Heyman go.
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:52 PM   #12
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Bad Bad move if they release Heyman.
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:24 PM   #13
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WWE are fools if they let Heyman go.
Surely you knew this already?

From what I know about TNA (admitidly, not much!) it seems to be very much like WCW was just before it closed down, similar roster, same booker etc. However add Heyman into the mix and it combine the good parts from WCW with the man behind ECW, you could get a very interesting company
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:44 PM   #14
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If this does happen it could quite possibly be the stupidest thing the WWE could do.
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:49 PM   #15
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and WWE is known for doing stupid things
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:49 PM   #16
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Surely you knew this already?

From what I know about TNA (admitidly, not much!) it seems to be very much like WCW was just before it closed down, similar roster, same booker etc. However add Heyman into the mix and it combine the good parts from WCW with the man behind ECW, you could get a very interesting company
TNA have more original talent than people give them credit for, with guys like Kazarian (might have been in WCW, not sure), AMW, Abyss, AJ Styles, Team Canada etc...
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:13 PM   #17
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I don't buy it for a second. Heyman is way too dangerous of a commodity for WWE to just throw him out. Even if Vince and his yes-men don't like him, they know that he's got an incredible mind for booking, and he could be a major nuissance in the hands of, say, TNA (or if Turner ever gets his fed going). They're safer (in their opinion) just putting him on the shelf so that no one else can nab him.
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:23 PM   #18
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Heh, Can ya imagine what wolud happen if the USA Network hired Heyman?
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:27 PM   #19
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Whether Heyman gets released or not really doesn't mean much. The point is he's not being used right now, so whether or not he's collecting a cheque only makes a difference to Heyman, not us.

If there was another promotion out there which had a viable future I would be optimistic, but there isn't, so we're kinda SOL.

I hear Heyman wants to try his hand at other avenues of the TV business. That could be carny talk, but I wouldn't blame him if he wants out. Let Vince do his thing, if wrestling dies, it dies. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it if I were him.
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:34 PM   #20
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I don't know about you, but I would LOVE Heyman to be released. I am usually upset when talent is released by the WWE, because I can't see them wrestle. The good thing about Heyman is that his talent can single-handedly rise TNA out of the shadows into the forefront.

With Heyman in hand, TNA could really start to do some damage to the WWE, and IMO, that would be great to start the flow of wrestling again.
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I don't know about you, but I would LOVE Heyman to be released. I am usually upset when talent is released by the WWE, because I can't see them wrestle. The good thing about Heyman is that his talent can single-handedly rise TNA out of the shadows into the forefront.

With Heyman in hand, TNA could really start to do some damage to the WWE, and IMO, that would be great to start the flow of wrestling again.
ha!

TNA is worse than the WWE.

At least Hunter is a legitamate main event talent, in TNA you have to book everything so "Mr 3rd match on the card" can look like a superstar.
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:56 PM   #22
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i predict a swerve

heyman will show up at the ECW payperview
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:00 PM   #23
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lol... sure.

Anyway, I dunno. I've sort of given up on expecting good decisions made within the WWE anymore.
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:28 PM   #24
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because Melzer reported it.
And I get called a Meltzer wannabe or arse licker

Seriously though, he is friends with Heyman so if anyone is going to know the details, its Da Meltz.
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:47 PM   #26
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I refuse to buy the ECW PPV now.
Yeah, we should all refuse to buy the ECW PPV on those grounds...


...of course then Vince will stand up and say "see, nobody wants to see those ECW guys" and the next thing you know Rhyno and RVD are fired.
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RVD will probably be anyway.
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Old 01-02-2005, 12:07 AM   #28
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And I get called a Meltzer wannabe or arse licker

Seriously though, he is friends with Heyman so if anyone is going to know the details, its Da Meltz.
I wish I was Melzer. Probably would get to speak with Trish and "interview" her
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:40 AM   #30
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I hope they release him. It's not like they'll let him do anything, so he'd be much more useful elsewhere.
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RVD will probably be anyway.
He's in the same sort of boat as Heyman as far as i'm concerned.

A liability within the company, but far more dangerous outside of it
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If they think they killed Van Dam, they'll let him go. Only problem is they can't because he isn't anywhere near his potential in WWE. The minute he leaves, it would be turned up 10 and the real RVD would be back.
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Old 01-02-2005, 12:31 PM   #33
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If TNA get Heyman, that would be a promising outlook for the Jarrett's promotion. Couple that with RVD and Rhyno (if they get released) and you've got a legitimate WWE competition.

Not to mention other ECW guys that might go (Tajiri, Tazz, Dreamer)

If Tazz went to TNA, he might actually get to wrestle again.

Just don't hold your breath.
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Surely you knew this already?

From what I know about TNA (admitidly, not much!) it seems to be very much like WCW was just before it closed down, similar roster, same booker etc. However add Heyman into the mix and it combine the good parts from WCW with the man behind ECW, you could get a very interesting company
they didn't trust Vince Russo why would they trust Paul Heyman?
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Ring oF Honor could use Paul Heyman. ROH has the greatest WRESTLING matches around but seriously lack in the character and storyline aspect that is needed in order get more than just the wrestling purist fans to attend their shows. Insert, Paul Heyman with some conterversal charcters/storylines and ROH could be better. They won't become competition to the WWE but they'll make more money.
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If Tazz went to TNA, he might actually get to wrestle again.
Just so you know it was Tazz's decision to stop wrestling, not that of the WWE. He chose to become a full time commentator. He said he had lost the feeling when he was about to go out to the ring. So I would doubt that the prospect of wrestling in TNA would renew his desire to wrestle. Add the fact that his neck I believe is just as f***ed as Austin's.
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lol... sure.

Anyway, I dunno. I've sort of given up on expecting good decisions made within the WWE anymore.

Same here mate.
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LOL Brian Gerwitz is a moron.

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-Head writer of Raw, Brian Gewirtz has personally told the McMahons that he was opposed to bringing back Paul Heyman, because he felt that Heyman would create a competition between the brands and destroy and harmony that the writing teams/brands had built with one another.

THE IDEA IS TO CREATE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE BRANDS TO UP THE RATINGS YOU FUCKING MORON.
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Sounds like someone is afraid for his job.

He knows if the competition was real that he'd be fired because Heyman's Smack Down would wipe the floor with his Raw. Just like Heyman's Smack Down has done every time Heyman gets a tiny piece of power.
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LOL Brian Gerwitz is a moron.

From the main page:

-Head writer of Raw, Brian Gewirtz has personally told the McMahons that he was opposed to bringing back Paul Heyman, because he felt that Heyman would create a competition between the brands and destroy and harmony that the writing teams/brands had built with one another.

THE IDEA IS TO CREATE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE BRANDS TO UP THE RATINGS YOU FUCKING MORON.
I agree. If Heyman can increas einterest in SD!, LET HIM DO IT! If Gerwitz can't keep up, he obviously isn't good enough for WWE's standards. Let Heyman work on both shows if Gerwitz is scared of him. That way Brian's weaknesses won't be shown (actually they might if RAW doubles in ratings).

Anyway, how great would it be if Vince came out and cut a promo foring Heyman and about how RVD let the company down by not going to Iraq, so he strips RVD and Mysterio of the tag titles, which then pisses off RVD so he just goes all out and says "F*** Iraq. F*** your cheap tours. F*** you. I'm the whole f***ing show, and if you don't like it fire me, because I am done with your sh!t. Rey and I won those titles fair and f***ing square, everyone knows we're the f***ing best in the WWE." which leads to Vince getting ready to snap, before Tazz walks up behind him and locks in the Tazzmission while RVD and Rey start beating on Vince. Theodore R. Long then suspends the three because they're beating on his idol.

The next week on SD!, out comes Vince and publicly fires RVD, Tazz and Mysterio, before "This is Extreme!" plays as does a video highlighting RVD, Heyman, Mysterio and Tazz. Out comes RVD, Mysterio and Tazz and they demand they get their jobs back. Vince says no way, calls for security, but no one comes out. The Dudleys (Spike included), Al Snow, Lita, Dawn Marie, Chilly Willy, Lance Storm, Tommy Dreamer, Rhyno, Tajiri, The Undertaker, Simon Dean, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Steven Richards, Mick Foley and Nunzio come out slowly, with Undertaker bringing a security guard with him, then proceeding to throw him off the stage. The ex-ECW superstars (I don't think I forgot anyone), stand in the isle facing inwards as "This is Extreme!" plays again as Heyman make shis way to the ring smiling, with an ECW cap on. He then proceeds to throw copies of "The Rise and Fall of ECW" into the crowd. A pick-up truck then enters with large boxes filled to the rim with copies of the DVD, and Heyman then proceeds to get his followers (save Tazz, RVD and Mysterio) to take the DVDs through the crowd, giving them out for free as Vince McMahon screams that he payed for that DVD to be made, they're his.

Heyman then demands Vince hires him back, as well as Mysterio, RVD and Tazz. Vince then says he'll fire all those helping Paul right then and there, Heyman then says they'll just go to TNA. Vince then looks a bit worried before smirking and asking Heyman if he will run them into the ground, as well. Heyman then laughs and says he has a bargaining chip. Heyman then simply calls "Steve.", then out of the pick-up truck comes Steve Austin. I know a lot of people would be against the return of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but for something like this, him coming back, even if just for a night, would be GREAT, IMO, simply because of his name power, it would recreate the feeling from the Austin/McMahon feud, where if McMahon went straight out and fired Austin, he would just go to another company as their main draw and make them money, and take the fans with him.

Vince then re-hires Heyman, Mysterio, RVD and Tazz, and after a while he asks Heyman what he's still standing there for, he gave him what he wants. Heyman then says "Oh, we're not finished yet.". Heyman then demands they get their own timeslot. Vince looks shocked and pissed off at the same time. Vince agrees. Heyman then says he still wants his men and women to retain their placing on the WWE's current brands. Heyman then requests his own PPV. Heyman laughs as Vince McMahon OKs this. Heyman then requests that all the men he wants from ECW to be entered in the Royal Rumble. Vince then sputters "Yes, dammit!", Heyman then again goes "We're not finished yet. Steve." Stone Cold then gives Austin a Stunner as Paul Heyman then tells Vince they're now finished, and reminds Vince this is Extreme.

I know a lot of people would be against this, but if Heyman ran ECW solely by himself, and got two hours to showcase his talent, as well as having them appear on RAW and SmackDown!, you could really create something special, and I know a few people will simply post "ECW is dead.", but the WWE needs to do something interesting, and ECW could do this. Another idea is to not have the talent appear on RAW and/or SmackDown!, but to have them run-in and attack people randomly, without it turning too much into an invasion. Eventually it could turn to us randomly predicting matches where ECW wrestler(s) will run in and interfere. It could really be interesting. Heyman should then right SmackDown! as well (don't limit him just to ECW).
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