Most Overrated Players in Sports
 

IDK if this thread has been made before. Just interested in what everyone says. Can be from any sport

If anyone says TO Ill kill you

Corey Dillon
Rudi Johnson
Santana Moss
Shawn Green

Why?

I mean, if you're doing to call players "over rated" say why you think that.

Paul Pierce.

Good skills, folds under pressure and doesn't have the maturity he should to be a leader at this point.

Doug Flutie - to short to see over NFL OL, has to roll out, can't stay in pocket, WR's can't see ball coming, have trouble adjusting and beaing ready for the throw.

In baseball

Chone Figgins
Alfonso Soriano
Scott Podsednik
Scott Hatteberg (not that anyone thinks he's good, but most are unaware he might be the worst player in the AL)
Darin Erstad
Francisco Rodriguez

basically the Angels entire 25 man roster

Chad Pennington - made of paper, just not very good even when hes healthy
Jeremy Shockey - no explanation needed

Peyton Manning

So, then what's that make Oakland?

Also, he's not a great player, but I'm sure we could find a ton of mlb players worse then hatteberg, not that I care to take the time to do it, just seems you're over critical of certain players... if there's a deep hearted issue here? were you stalking outside their hotel room and asked Scott to sign your butt cheeck and he said no? :p

yeah the same Angels roster that won the AL West

We could find a ton of players worse the Hattenberg, but the thread doesnt say whos the worst players in sports. It says who's the most overrated. So stfu.

Actually there is. Please do. Don't try to avoid it with some bullshit either.

Oh, and doesn't A-Rod have a $250 million dollar contract? Nobody is worth that much.

I think you're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. The Texas Rangers were just retarded.

Yeah I guess if you wanna put it that way.

Roy Williams-- Can hit but gets beat deep all the time.. Not the smartest player.

I mean he's not overrated by any means. He can only control his bat and his position and he's done a great job of it.

If someone gave me a contract worth 250 million and said i only had to make 4 plate appearences a game and occasionaly make a play on the third base line. I'd do it naked.:yes:

Yeah, Hatteberg isn't the greatest.

Overrated does not equal bad. You are an idiot, go away.

-He's a "below average" reciever, drops tons of balls, I believe he had only 2 0r 3 career TD catches coming into this year, when I can think of probably 3 times he has touchdown catches.
-Can't throw a block to save his life, gets penalized a lot.
-overhyperreactivecompulse
-and on top of that I just don't like him

And he's thought of as a top 5 TE in the league? :nono:

grwarrr

try 12 td catches.

thats what I said

Who's overrated on Oakland? Hatteberg and Chavez are the only ones I can think of. You never hear anybody kiss anyone else on that team's ass like they do Figgins, Erstad, KRod etc.

I can't think of a player less valuable than Scott Hatteberg. He has the lowest OPS of any 1B/DH with 200+ PA's. 1B/DH is your power position, Hatte supplied a big 7 homers this year. He is #4 in GIDP in the AL, the 3 ahead of him having many more plate appearances. He doesn't hit for power or average, he doesn't even hit sac flies. But if you need a double play he's your guy. Defensively he's as bad as 1B's come, he's now at the point where he's too shitty to play 1B every day at the MLB level so if a DH with a .675 OPS is what you're looking for then you've hit the jackpot.

The only positive thing I can think to say about this guy is he makes the pitcher throw alot of pitches and he doesn't K much. So if you need a guy to come off the bench and draw a walk late in a game he might be okay. But he's completely useless as an everyday player.

A tribute to Ken Macha's great lineups is that this guy hit 4th 5th or 6th consistently.

Scott Hatteberg will fuck you up like perkaset!

He was never known to be a great cover guy, he has the body of a freakin linebacker. But i bet you can't name anyone better at stuffing the run.

He is an overrated safety

Good point.

Coming into this year he had 10 TD's. I'm not sure where you're coming up with your point on dropped balls so I'll leave it at that. Sure, I'll agree with you on the below average receiver part, but only because he is a TE.

I'm not going to argue and say he can't block that great, because he can't. Nobody really thinks of Shockey as a blocker though or an all around great player though. He is always referred to in the sense that he is a receiving threat.

Doesn't get penalized any more than any other TE or WR. Then again you don't watch the Giants every week so I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Yeah, the guy does get fired up. Whats wrong with that? Coughlin has toned him down though. By saying you don't like him basically just tells me that you're biased to begin with.

Chone Figgins deserves praise. If anything, he doesn't get enough attention.

Everybody on FOX/ESPN the last week has said Chone Figgins is the Angels' MVP. Wrong

There is a difference between a receiving TE and a WR. If you want to think of him as a receiver then sure he is going to be below average compared to WR's around the league. When you're comparing him to other TE's he is considered more of a receiving threat. I hope that explains it clearly.

Ben Roethlisberger - I know he's still young, so I shouldn't say he's overrated, but he gets a little too much praise for me to handle. Didn't Tommy Maddox lead a Steeler team with worse players to a pretty good season too? Ben's better than Maddox, but not "great". Also, he is unreal in Madden.

Jonny Wilkinson - Rugby

A mister Troy Polamalu.

Tom Brady? :shifty:











I am sooooooo fucking kidding.

I'm going to go with Kerry Wood on this one. One of the most overhyped & overrated pitchers in the modern era.

And overinjured.

You really can't be this stupid can you?

Actually, yeah, you could be and well, you are.



Clearly, if no one thinks he's good, then he couldn't be "over-rated" could he?

Clearly, Miz said he "might be the worst player in the AL" which is what I responded to.

Clearly, you're head is up your ass as usual.

I just don't think Hatt's over-rated, simply because no one rates him real high.

As for the Angels, they won their Divison, not sure how they could be over-rated. Now, if everyone picked them to win the WS I could understand your "over-rated", but they were #1 in their division, #2 record in the AL.

Frank Lampard and John Terry.

Good players, but are the focus of far too much attention when it comes to Chelsea's success. I think that Petr Cech, William Gallas and Claude Makelele are equally as essential, if not more so.

Petr Cech, in fact, is probably the biggest factor in their success.

Is that it? You call me stupid. No reason. Just calling me stupid. Typical coming from you.

I'm shocked you havent broke out the Peyton Manning overrated card yet.

Sergay Federov
Randy Johnson
ARod
Kerry Wood
Shockey
Trent Green

Once again you prove you're an idiot.

If you kept reading you'd see where I quoted Miz and what I was replying to and why you're an idiot.

Also, if you actually pulled your head out of your ass and read a bit, you'd see I've never said Manning is over rated, and has great physical tools, but with one exception has always folded under pressure/ in big games.

You've gone from being a funny blind homer, to a waste of time idiot.

Warren Sapp, Rasheed Wallace

David Beckham. C'mon, missing the net on a penalty kick can't happen in a big game.

I think Becks is awesome and one of the best passers in soccer, but for all of that he still fucked up when English soccer fans needed him most.

...

Anybody from the ICC World XI

Derek Lowe

He did great for the Red Sox last year during the playoffs. During the regular season though he did not really do very well. Then LA went and signed him to a huge deal and he was exactly what he was in Boston the year before - an average pitcher.

Shockey gets way too much coverage too IMO. He's good but the way he gets talked about you would think he is a first ballot hall of famer

Roberto Baggio did the same thing in the World Cup final. He was still the man.

Who cheats on his wife.

Which has what to do with his ability to pitch?

He was cheating on her in Boston and won a WS. Only difference is rather then local "fans" at the clubs/bars he moved on to a sports reporter... I hope for her sake it works out, otherwise she comitted career suicide.

You think the distraction of having a divorce and people question your character doesn't affect your job, your ability to do your job?

I guess you'd never know, you know, since you have a dog and not a wife.

Barry Ferguson - Looks decent when playing pish like Richie Hart and Darren Young in the SPL but his inability to take control of a game in Europe or on the international scene is always apparent.

Lets compare season stats so far among Shockey and other TE

Jeremy Shockey


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
4 | 17 251 14.8 2

Antonio Gates

b G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| 3 | 18 280 15.6 1 |

Alge Crumpler


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
4 | 13 158 12.2 1


Tony Gonzalez


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
4 | 16 129 8.1 0

Todd Heap:


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
3 | 13 133 10.2 0

Jason Witten:


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
4 | 16 181 11.3 1


LJ Smith


G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
4 | 26 265 10.2 2</pre>

Only Gates & Smith put up better numbers really.

VEL are you in first grade? You really do act like it sometimes.

C'mon ,are you jus gonna throw any name out there,lol. He is good, but not better than ROY

No, Roy Williams is pracitcally the definition of overrated. I like him, but he isn't the best safety at anything.

It might, it might not, all depends on the person doesn't it?

That being said, he cheated, he filed for the divorcee, what does he have to feel sorry for? It's not like it was some shock to him.

Ok, boy wonder... explain this one....

Or is this simply "I have nothing logical to say and the attention isn't on me, so I'll just throw a random insult to up my post count"

Whever people disagree with you, you call them a idiot or stupid. Look at your own posts.

Derek Jeter.

Most sporting players do, but only few get caught.

lol, pot-kettle moment of the century

Clinton Portis: His stats have gone down bad since he had been in Washington.

No, when someone makes things up I never said I call them an idiot.

When people insult me rather then trying to discuss a point, I call them an idiot.

When YOU reply to a post that clearly wasn't directed at you with no information on the subject, I call YOU an idiot.

Or when someone shoots you down with facts, you trash their teams. Always good to go that route.

i agree on Clinton Portis.


How about Elton Brand and Abdur Rahim

Examples?

LMAO

Lets see... Pretty much anytime someone has criticism of the Red Sox or Pats.

José Théodore. He had a good year when he won the Vezina, but he became worse by the year ever since. People here are still high on him because he goes on every talk show there is, womem think he's cute and casual fans say "Oh, I'm sure he will find his edge back this year". I have troubles finding someone with hockey knowledge who think he is good. He constantly chokes under pressure, he throws himself on the ice too fast, half the goals he allows are weak goals that most other goalies would have stopped by moving the stick, his mitten hand sucks and he lives off a reputation he acquired because of one good year. You could compare that to Jim Carrey, former Washington Capitals goaler. Finally, he is overpaid, and should be traded for something good before his reputation goes away.

I don't think Elton Brand is overrated. I always thought he was underrated.

I'll agree when you name a better run stuffer.

Actually, it's more like he had one off year and you won't forgive him.

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2001 - Vezina
2002 - off year
2003 - solid season

If it wasn't for the win/loss in his 'bad year' everything else stacks up very nice in 2002. And 2003... come on. those are solid, SOLID numbers.

2003 are good numbers because he had a good team in front of him. He had Ribeiro, Ryder, Koivu and Zednik on attack to save his ass, while Markov, Sourray, Rivet and Bouillon were a solid defense. What makes me mad is that they say he's the kind of goalie that can make a team. False. Patrick Roy could carry a bad team on his back. Luongo seems like he can do it. Brodeur can do it. Theodore is the complete opposite. He either gets carried by his team or he crumbles, except for 2001.

I mean sure, the numbers are there, but when you watch each and every match he has, you quickly notice everything I said, notiably that the guy his always down and makes an habit out of allowing weak goals.

An example would be this season start. Canadiesn are 3-0. People around here say "WOW! Theodore will win us the cup this year!" Wrong. It's been all about the offense being able to score only one more goal than he can allow, and all of his goals in the last match have been really weak goal.

Marcus Stroud
John Henderson
Kris Jenkings
Corey Simon


I could go on as far as DLinemen. Safteys, I dunno. Probably none better.

I'll add Champ Bailey to the list of overrated. Whens the last time he's shut down someone in a meaningful game?

How bout Derek Jeter.

I'm surprised that Randy Moss hasn't been mentioned yet.

I don't care WHAT kind of stats you have. You could be rushing for 200 yeards PER GAME for all I care.

If you are going to play for me, you BETTER be reliable in how your attitude about the game is. Walking off the field whenever you damn well please, being controversial for the sake of being controversial, having the biggest mouth out of anyone and running it too damn much. NO team should have to put up with someone who you don't know how many unsportsmanlike conduct flags you will be getting because of him, or if he is even going actually be a teammate.

Sorry, but I don't care what kind of stats Moss had. That wasn't the main reason why the Vikings didn't care less about him after 04 (I can't remember if they cut him loose or he became a free agent or whatever it was). They stopped caring the minute he became unreliable as part of the team.

Dunno, looking at how shitty the Vikes have played this year leads me to believe that Moss is still worth all the hype. Daunte Culpepper however fits the title well. Perhaps it was easy for him to look like a top knotch NFL QB chucking the ball to Randy all these years. Now that he is gone...

Not by a huge amount but I think Lamont Jordan is a little overrated. Now by the end of the year this statement could be reversed but so far he is only averaging 3.7 YPC with like 1 or 2 TD's. He was pretty decent in his role with the Jets but I don't know if he has solidified his position as a #1 RB just yet. So until then, for as much as he was hyped going to Oakland, I think he is a tad overrated.

again, examples?

When people talk stats and facts that's fine.

Stuff like "Sox Suck" or making things up I never said, or responding to something never asked or questioned then yes, I call the person an idiot.

If you actually took the time to look, you'd notice I usually dust off the insults to try and keep the discussion going and I'm the last to go there...

But, since your head is clearly up your butt, it must be tough to read.

Example? yeah, thought so... thanks for playing, please come again, perferable with something to add on the topic of the thread.

My example is in your post.

Gavin Henson

you really are a complete idiot, thanks for proving it over and over again.

Jeremy Shockey is not overrated at all. Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

I say no.

While it's true he gets a lot of coverage, he is a great important game player. You know what I mean?... When the games count he seems to always rise to the occasion be it on offense or on defense. I rag on the Yankees a lot, but Jeter is a guy that I truly look to as one of the best.

LOL

VEL, don't you see a pattern here? Or do you really think everyone is wrong and only you are right.

Here's an example for you VEL

LOL this might be my favorite VEL post of all time, here's a breakdown of my post and his response.

The Miz:

1. Just because Hank Blalock has few errors and a high FPCT that does not make him a great third baseman.

2. Errors are an innacurate stat. Errors are often incorrectly awarded and often unawarded when they should be.

3. Hank Blalock had a better first baseman than Eric Chavez for half a year, helping out with his error count.

4. Based on my viewing of the games and not stats, Chavez is better than Blalock.

VEL:

1. You made a typo.

2. You act like you watch every game.

3. I didn't say any one deserved more than any other, I just brought up names.

4. You don't understand stats.

5. Gold gloves are not based upon how you think a player looks. (Editors note: What?)

6. Errors and fielding percentage = defense

7. The Mariners are bad.

Editors note:...

LMAO

:lol:

I'm sorry but that is probably the most retarded thing that I have ever heard.

1. He didn't walk off the field whenever he wanted to, he walked off while his team was kicking off with two seconds left. Randy Moss is not the only one to ever walk off the field before the game is done, he's just the only one hated enough to mention it.

2. Moss doesn't talk as much as TO or as Chad Johnson, and when he does he speaks in confidence, not it arrogance. He doesn't take a sharpie out and sign a ball, he doesn't hide cell phones in the pads, he pretends to moon a crowd. That being said, Randy Moss has reason to be confident, he is better than TO and Chad.

3. The Vikings are not as stupid as you are, they did not cut him loose. They traded him for a starting linebacker, a top 10 draft pick, and another draft pick.

4. How can you be overrated if you are the best player in your position? The only way you can guard him is to put a safety on him, which opens up the rest of your team, uncluding the run game. All he has to do is run and he affects the game more then any wide receiver. You can make the argument that Harrison or TO is better, but neither have Moss's big play capability. He is fast, can jump, and has hands.

Finally, Moss has been underrated until last year, when he was finally respected. He was cut from the Pro Bowl in 2002 because of off-feild actions, even though he deserved to be there. He has been one of the top receivers since coming into the league but hasn't gotten credit for that until last year. He gets more credit as a thug then he does as the top receiver in the league.

Moss is so one dimensional is the thing that makes him overrated. He is so much faster than the corners that he just does straight routes. Never goes across the middle or can run after the catch like TO does. I have never really seen Chad Johnson play so IDK about him. But Moss is def not better than TO.

TO plays on a better team in a bigger market, which is the only reason he is compared. No doubt he is a great wide receiver, but Moss and Harrison are special receivers, they just have incredible talent.

Different types of receivers. I can't say which one is better than who or is the best because each one fits their team because of their style of play.

Deion Branch > *