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Old 10-06-2005, 07:15 PM   #1
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IDK if this thread has been made before. Just interested in what everyone says. Can be from any sport
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Old 10-06-2005, 09:10 PM   #4
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Why?

I mean, if you're doing to call players "over rated" say why you think that.

Paul Pierce.

Good skills, folds under pressure and doesn't have the maturity he should to be a leader at this point.

Doug Flutie - to short to see over NFL OL, has to roll out, can't stay in pocket, WR's can't see ball coming, have trouble adjusting and beaing ready for the throw.
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Chone Figgins
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Scott Hatteberg (not that anyone thinks he's good, but most are unaware he might be the worst player in the AL)
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basically the Angels entire 25 man roster
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So, then what's that make Oakland?

Also, he's not a great player, but I'm sure we could find a ton of mlb players worse then hatteberg, not that I care to take the time to do it, just seems you're over critical of certain players... if there's a deep hearted issue here? were you stalking outside their hotel room and asked Scott to sign your butt cheeck and he said no?
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yeah the same Angels roster that won the AL West
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So, then what's that make Oakland?

Also, he's not a great player, but I'm sure we could find a ton of mlb players worse then hatteberg, not that I care to take the time to do it, just seems you're over critical of certain players... if there's a deep hearted issue here? were you stalking outside their hotel room and asked Scott to sign your butt cheeck and he said no?

We could find a ton of players worse the Hattenberg, but the thread doesnt say whos the worst players in sports. It says who's the most overrated. So stfu.
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Jeremy Shockey - no explanation needed
Actually there is. Please do. Don't try to avoid it with some bullshit either.

Oh, and doesn't A-Rod have a $250 million dollar contract? Nobody is worth that much.
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Actually there is. Please do. Don't try to avoid it with some bullshit either.

Oh, and doesn't A-Rod have a $250 million dollar contract? Nobody is worth that much.

I think you're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. The Texas Rangers were just retarded.
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Yeah I guess if you wanna put it that way.

I mean he's not overrated by any means. He can only control his bat and his position and he's done a great job of it.

If someone gave me a contract worth 250 million and said i only had to make 4 plate appearences a game and occasionaly make a play on the third base line. I'd do it naked.
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yeah the same Angels roster that won the AL West
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Actually there is. Please do. Don't try to avoid it with some bullshit either.

Oh, and doesn't A-Rod have a $250 million dollar contract? Nobody is worth that much.
-He's a "below average" reciever, drops tons of balls, I believe he had only 2 0r 3 career TD catches coming into this year, when I can think of probably 3 times he has touchdown catches.
-Can't throw a block to save his life, gets penalized a lot.
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-and on top of that I just don't like him

And he's thought of as a top 5 TE in the league?
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So, then what's that make Oakland?

Also, he's not a great player, but I'm sure we could find a ton of mlb players worse then hatteberg, not that I care to take the time to do it, just seems you're over critical of certain players... if there's a deep hearted issue here? were you stalking outside their hotel room and asked Scott to sign your butt cheeck and he said no?
Who's overrated on Oakland? Hatteberg and Chavez are the only ones I can think of. You never hear anybody kiss anyone else on that team's ass like they do Figgins, Erstad, KRod etc.

I can't think of a player less valuable than Scott Hatteberg. He has the lowest OPS of any 1B/DH with 200+ PA's. 1B/DH is your power position, Hatte supplied a big 7 homers this year. He is #4 in GIDP in the AL, the 3 ahead of him having many more plate appearances. He doesn't hit for power or average, he doesn't even hit sac flies. But if you need a double play he's your guy. Defensively he's as bad as 1B's come, he's now at the point where he's too shitty to play 1B every day at the MLB level so if a DH with a .675 OPS is what you're looking for then you've hit the jackpot.

The only positive thing I can think to say about this guy is he makes the pitcher throw alot of pitches and he doesn't K much. So if you need a guy to come off the bench and draw a walk late in a game he might be okay. But he's completely useless as an everyday player.

A tribute to Ken Macha's great lineups is that this guy hit 4th 5th or 6th consistently.
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He was never known to be a great cover guy, he has the body of a freakin linebacker. But i bet you can't name anyone better at stuffing the run.
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He was never known to be a great cover guy, he has the body of a freakin linebacker. But i bet you can't name anyone better at stuffing the run.
He is an overrated safety
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-He's a "below average" reciever, drops tons of balls, I believe he had only 2 0r 3 career TD catches coming into this year, when I can think of probably 3 times he has touchdown catches.
-Can't throw a block to save his life, gets penalized a lot.
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-and on top of that I just don't like him

And he's thought of as a top 5 TE in the league?
Coming into this year he had 10 TD's. I'm not sure where you're coming up with your point on dropped balls so I'll leave it at that. Sure, I'll agree with you on the below average receiver part, but only because he is a TE.

I'm not going to argue and say he can't block that great, because he can't. Nobody really thinks of Shockey as a blocker though or an all around great player though. He is always referred to in the sense that he is a receiving threat.

Doesn't get penalized any more than any other TE or WR. Then again you don't watch the Giants every week so I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Yeah, the guy does get fired up. Whats wrong with that? Coughlin has toned him down though. By saying you don't like him basically just tells me that you're biased to begin with.
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Dunno but it looks like you just said his role is as a receiver, and he's not even good at that
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There is a difference between a receiving TE and a WR. If you want to think of him as a receiver then sure he is going to be below average compared to WR's around the league. When you're comparing him to other TE's he is considered more of a receiving threat. I hope that explains it clearly.
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Ben Roethlisberger - I know he's still young, so I shouldn't say he's overrated, but he gets a little too much praise for me to handle. Didn't Tommy Maddox lead a Steeler team with worse players to a pretty good season too? Ben's better than Maddox, but not "great". Also, he is unreal in Madden.
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He was never known to be a great cover guy, he has the body of a freakin linebacker. But i bet you can't name anyone better at stuffing the run.
A mister Troy Polamalu.
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I am sooooooo fucking kidding.

I'm going to go with Kerry Wood on this one. One of the most overhyped & overrated pitchers in the modern era.
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We could find a ton of players worse the Hattenberg, but the thread doesnt say whos the worst players in sports. It says who's the most overrated. So stfu.

You really can't be this stupid can you?

Actually, yeah, you could be and well, you are.



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Scott Hatteberg (not that anyone thinks he's good, but most are unaware he might be the worst player in the AL)
Clearly, if no one thinks he's good, then he couldn't be "over-rated" could he?

Clearly, Miz said he "might be the worst player in the AL" which is what I responded to.

Clearly, you're head is up your ass as usual.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:35 PM   #39
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Who's overrated on Oakland? Hatteberg and Chavez are the only ones I can think of. You never hear anybody kiss anyone else on that team's ass like they do Figgins, Erstad, KRod etc.

I can't think of a player less valuable than Scott Hatteberg. He has the lowest OPS of any 1B/DH with 200+ PA's. 1B/DH is your power position, Hatte supplied a big 7 homers this year. He is #4 in GIDP in the AL, the 3 ahead of him having many more plate appearances. He doesn't hit for power or average, he doesn't even hit sac flies. But if you need a double play he's your guy. Defensively he's as bad as 1B's come, he's now at the point where he's too shitty to play 1B every day at the MLB level so if a DH with a .675 OPS is what you're looking for then you've hit the jackpot.

The only positive thing I can think to say about this guy is he makes the pitcher throw alot of pitches and he doesn't K much. So if you need a guy to come off the bench and draw a walk late in a game he might be okay. But he's completely useless as an everyday player.

A tribute to Ken Macha's great lineups is that this guy hit 4th 5th or 6th consistently.
I just don't think Hatt's over-rated, simply because no one rates him real high.

As for the Angels, they won their Divison, not sure how they could be over-rated. Now, if everyone picked them to win the WS I could understand your "over-rated", but they were #1 in their division, #2 record in the AL.
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Frank Lampard and John Terry.

Good players, but are the focus of far too much attention when it comes to Chelsea's success. I think that Petr Cech, William Gallas and Claude Makelele are equally as essential, if not more so.

Petr Cech, in fact, is probably the biggest factor in their success.
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