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Xero 01-16-2009 11:57 PM

John Cena in Generic Action Movie II
 
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NeanderCarl 01-16-2009 11:58 PM

Isn't the premise virtually identical to The Marine?

Afterlife 01-17-2009 12:00 AM

Wow. He just refuses to act, doesn't he?

Savio 01-17-2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2400389)
Isn't the premise virtually identical to The Marine?

I'd say more like die hard 3. I'd say it looks better then the Marine, worth a rent.

Savio 01-17-2009 12:30 AM

What happened to HHH and undertakers movie?

thedamndest 01-17-2009 01:38 AM

They reused the wardrobe from the Marine.

Shadow 01-17-2009 02:03 AM

It's a mindless popcorn flick.

I'll see it.

FourFifty 01-17-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 2400505)
It's a mindless popcorn flick.

I'll see it.

That's why I saw The Marine.

screech 01-17-2009 03:28 AM

I'll see it, but I won't spend money to do so. I'll wait for the DVD and Netflix it.

thedamndest 01-17-2009 03:29 AM

That's still spending money.

thedamndest 01-17-2009 03:31 AM

Even if you borrow the DVD from a friend or illegally download it or find it in the street there is still the cost to you of having to sit and watch it.

screech 01-17-2009 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2400537)
That's still spending money.

But it's not my money so it's okay.

Afterlife 01-17-2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2400539)
Even if you borrow the DVD from a friend or illegally download it or find it in the street there is still the cost to you of having to sit and watch it.

And no doubt that'll be a hefty price.

Juan 01-17-2009 07:19 AM

I think i'll pass

XL 01-17-2009 08:44 AM

So, instead of a marine we get him as a cop. Wonder how they'll work that into his gimmick?

Fox 01-17-2009 08:49 AM

What's sad is that this movie will get a wide-release and "The Wrestler" didn't.

RP 01-17-2009 08:55 AM

I'd watch it. Its not like its horrible or something. Not every movie wins an Oscar you spoiled fag wrestling fans. He's John Cena. What the fuck are you expecting from this? Do you expect this to be a Robert Dinero in Heat like performance? Thats why no why likes you guys. Cause your dumb fucks that have these huge expectations that are so ridiculous. Its a John Cena action movie. Get a fucking clew.

Afterlife 01-17-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2400673)
So, instead of a marine we get him as a cop. Wonder how they'll work that into his gimmick?

He doesn't have a gimmick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2400676)
What's sad is that this movie will get a wide-release and "The Wrestler" didn't.

That's not necessarily bad. As much as I've never been high on Rourke as a person, good movies are made for fans of movies. Hollow crap with explosions is made for people who don't know why peolpe make movies.

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2400677)
I'd watch it. Its not like its horrible or something. Not every movie wins an Oscar you spoiled fag wrestling fans. He's John Cena. What the fuck are you expecting from this? Do you expect this to be a Robert Dinero in Heat like performance? Thats why no why likes you guys. Cause your dumb fucks that have these huge expectations that are so ridiculous. Its a John Cena action movie. Get a fucking clew.

Now that's a gimmick.

Xero 01-17-2009 10:56 AM

I'm getting a raging clue.

Kane Knight 01-17-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2400673)
So, instead of a marine we get him as a cop. Wonder how they'll work that into his gimmick?

He could tase blacks as part of his entrance?

Fox 01-17-2009 06:19 PM

He's already like the police. When he was gone it was like a high school party and Chris Jericho was the cool kid host, and then when Cena showed up all the fun stops and he hands out MIP's.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 07:35 PM

I love that people try to pass it off with the excuse of "I'll watch it, but I won't spend money on it." or, "It's mindless, it's worth a watch."

Just fuckin admit you want to see it. I'm sure the 5 bucks are inconsequential.

I will not see it, but if I wanted to I'd come out and fuckin come clean with it.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 07:36 PM

Lets keep in mind that these movies do make money at the box office. Not a ton, but they do make money. If nobody on here will "pay to see it", who is? At least one person in this thread who says they won't pay to see it will be there on opening weekend.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 07:37 PM

Perhaps they're even planning on it.

thedamndest 01-17-2009 07:39 PM

John Cena, Sr.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 07:46 PM

Even watching it on TV counts as paying money. It means you're paying money for a format that subjects it's viewers to shit like this instead of good movies, and we still buy it.
Even NOT watching it on HBO, or whatever, is paying for it (if you get the channel). It saddens me.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 07:47 PM

When we pay taxes, we're supporting John Cena movies. In some round about way I'm sure it could be argued. I propose we stage a modern day Boston Tea Party, dumping crates of The Marine deluxe edition dvds into the Boston Harbor

thedamndest 01-17-2009 07:54 PM

They wouldn't stay in there. The Boston Harbor would give them the Throwback.

Kalyx triaD 01-17-2009 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2401202)
I love that people try to pass it off with the excuse of "I'll watch it, but I won't spend money on it." or, "It's mindless, it's worth a watch."

I love this post.

Kalyx triaD 01-17-2009 08:05 PM

Now, granted the premise is somewhat better than the Marine and it seems like something that would have been totally 'it' in the mid/late 90's, I think I can live without watching this. WWE Films is... getting better? Who knows.

Kane Knight 01-17-2009 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2401202)
I love that people try to pass it off with the excuse of "I'll watch it, but I won't spend money on it." or, "It's mindless, it's worth a watch."

Just fuckin admit you want to see it. I'm sure the 5 bucks are inconsequential.

I will not see it, but if I wanted to I'd come out and fuckin come clean with it.

You pay five bucks? Shit, it's like 7 for a matinee around here now.

Jeritron 01-17-2009 08:11 PM

Give or take. I was taking the "Give it a rent" into account. 5 bucks, 7 bucks, either way it's hardly whats stopping people from seeing it. The bottom line is you either want to see it, or not, and you then comprimise that with what you deem socially acceptable.

Kane Knight 01-17-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2401233)
Now, granted the premise is somewhat better than the Marine and it seems like something that would have been totally 'it' in the mid/late 90's, I think I can live without watching this. WWE Films is... getting better? Who knows.

Just to be fair, WWE Films was never really that bad to begin with. The Marine was solid, the Condemned was solid, and I can't comment on I Scream M...Errr...Cena Evil, but I hate the genre, so I'm not sure my opinion on that one would be any measure of quality.

I think the biggest problem with WWE Films is the Waterworld effect. I mean, there are quality concerns as well, and Waterworld was probably doomed from the start, but after so much money and hype, the movie was fucked.

Similarly, after all this hype for WWE films, talk for a couple of years even, anyone who was interested (e.g. anyone not going "lolwrestlersacting") probably expected a little better than a high-budget B-movie. Maybe not much more, but like, a B+ movie.

But you compare these movies with other summer blockbusters, and it's about on par. And compared to other, similar genres of movie, they're fucking brilliant. I mean, video game and comic book movies (barring Batman and a couple others) make the Marine look amazing.

Juan 01-17-2009 08:33 PM

I haven't seen any WWE films, don't plan on starting with this one.

Kane Knight 01-17-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2401242)
Give or take. I was taking the "Give it a rent" into account. 5 bucks, 7 bucks, either way it's hardly whats stopping people from seeing it. The bottom line is you either want to see it, or not, and you then comprimise that with what you deem socially acceptable.

It's about 7 bucks for a rental, too. Which is why I tend to use Netflix now. But yeah, I take your point, because I'll probably Netflix it, because that's an acceptable cost for me. I couldn't see myself waiting in line for it, but on a day with nothing to do, having it sent to me at my leisure is cool.

Everyone has a threshold and a price. :D

James Steele 01-17-2009 08:40 PM

I will admit that I liked See No Evil and The Condemned, but I refuse to watch John Cena films out of principle.

YOUR Hero 01-17-2009 09:46 PM

Trailer looked alright. Looked as good if not better than your typical Hollywood releases. I won't go out of my way to see it, but I won't give it a wide berth either.

Afterlife 01-17-2009 11:28 PM

The trailer did not look alright. His VO in the beginning was simply awful. That's not acting, that's reading out loud. And the fact that the villian actually used the fucking phrase "it's a game" sent a nauseaeting quiver of cliche through my body. This is nothing but a grapeshot of trite and genreic "ideas" with a remarkably generic Steven Seagal title.

Kalyx triaD 01-18-2009 12:17 AM

Where's the fun in simply blowing up the house with Cena and his girlfriend in it? You gotta play a game that gives the hero some chance to beat you. That's the first thing they teach you in villain school.

FourFifty 01-18-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2400676)
What's sad is that this movie will get a wide-release and "The Wrestler" didn't.

Well, that's one less reason I have to live.

Afterlife 01-18-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2401393)
Where's the fun in simply blowing up the house with Cena and his girlfriend in it? You gotta play a game that gives the hero some chance to beat you. That's the first thing they teach you in villain school.

It sounds like someone's cousin wrote this thing. The lines featured in the trailer, plus the blandness of the plot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not digging it because it has John Cena in it; I genuinely look at this as a shitty, shotty movie. But I wouldn't say the man is helping it at all. Partly because he looks completely ridiculous in the street beat uniform.

Kalyx triaD 01-18-2009 01:16 AM

The white guy in ghetto attire looks silly in uniform. Cena is truly a pariah.

Afterlife 01-18-2009 04:47 AM

Also...Mickey Rourke is an awkward douchebag. I just saw him on Graham Norton, and it was REALLY hard to watch.

Kane Knight 01-18-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2401393)
Where's the fun in simply blowing up the house with Cena and his girlfriend in it? You gotta play a game that gives the hero some chance to beat you. That's the first thing they teach you in villain school.

The first thing they teach you is Stronghold 101.

Haze 01-18-2009 09:57 AM

I've seen worse.

BigDaddyCool 01-18-2009 10:42 AM

Didn't Kris. P. Lettuse help make this movie? I blame him.

Kane Knight 01-18-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2401654)
Didn't Kris. P. Lettuse help make this movie? I blame him.

Well, they had a picture of a mentally handicapped Walrus posing with Cena...

Afterlife 01-19-2009 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehazeeffect (Post 2401648)
I've seen worse.

Worse trailers, or worse interviews?

NeanderCarl 01-19-2009 05:24 PM

Based on this thread, I watched The Condemned last night. First WWE Film I've ever seen.

Thoroughly enjoyed it, for what it was. What a heel that Vinnie Jones is, huh?

Jeritron 01-19-2009 05:29 PM

If WWE is going to make a movie with Stone Cold, the movie should be Stone Cold himself in character beating people up in Texas or something. I mean that too. If you're going to make a shit action movie go balls to the wall about it and give the people what they want. They're there to see Stone Cold, not Steve Williams trying to play some guy with a good heart, or whatever they do in those movies.
WWE productions should reflect the WWE product, and not Vin Diesel movies

NeanderCarl 01-19-2009 05:31 PM

... but it was good. It was fun.

I wonder if the PG rating will carry over into WWE Films too?

Jeritron 01-19-2009 05:33 PM

I just think it would be hilarious to see a movie of Stone Cold Steve Austin living his kayfabe life in Texas, or The Undertaker living in the mansion from Tales From the Crypt or something.

NeanderCarl 01-19-2009 05:38 PM

I've often thought they should do an ensemble piece where the wrestlers all play their WWE characters, with a few main guys carrying the story and the whole roster in bit parts, or supporting roles.

Adder 01-19-2009 05:53 PM

some of you (Afterlife) need to calm down. I thought the trailer looked pretty good. Was thou expecting-eth Shakespeare?

screech 01-19-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2402839)
I wonder if the PG rating will carry over into WWE Films too?

This movie is PG-13.

What I meant earlier is that I'll see it, but I'm certainly not going to rush to opening day. I was on the fence about seeing The Marine because I love cheesy action movies, but I don't love John Cena's acting. I'd heard mixed reviews ("It was a good cheesy action flick" and "It was the worst movie ever"), so I decided to find out for myself. Turns out I was right: It was a good cheesy action flick with a not-so-great lead guy.

Now that I know what to expect, I'll see this. My love for cheesy action movies will win out over my disdain for John Cena's acting.

NeanderCarl 01-19-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 2402919)
This movie is PG-13.

It was produced before the PG edict, though, as was the Kennedy movie, and I assume the DiBiase one, although there's plenty of edit time left on that bad boy. I meant subsequent ones.

Afterlife 01-20-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 2402898)
some of you (Afterlife) need to calm down. I thought the trailer looked pretty good. Was thou expecting-eth Shakespeare?

Calm down from what? Simply pointing out that a movie is going to be garbage doesn't mean I'm upset about it. And for the record, Shakespeare is boring, too.

Ruien 01-20-2009 03:31 PM

Looks decent.

Thing that is complicated is that, so many people on here only say they can't stand Cena because of his character. Some of those people are now saying (in this thread) they hate the way Cena acts. Ummm, ya........

Afterlife 01-20-2009 04:02 PM

Because he only has one character, maybe?

Adder 01-20-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2404351)
Calm down from what? Simply pointing out that a movie is going to be garbage doesn't mean I'm upset about it. And for the record, Shakespeare is boring, too.

WHOA!

CALM DOWN!!

Afterlife 01-20-2009 06:15 PM

Yeah.

screech 01-20-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2402957)
It was produced before the PG edict, though, as was the Kennedy movie, and I assume the DiBiase one, although there's plenty of edit time left on that bad boy. I meant subsequent ones.

Ah, gotcha. I would think they would bring the PG thing to all aspects of the product. The same kids who attend and watch the shows will undoubtedly see the movies, right?

It would make sense, but it would also be interesting if they excluded their movies from the PG edict altogether (to try to reach all movie-goers and not just people who watch wrestling).

NeanderCarl 01-20-2009 08:11 PM

I don't know... they can get away with quite a lot of shit on Raw for a "PG" show... I think I read recently that WWE was still rated PG even during the edgy prime Attitude era year of 1998, until they upped it in 1999 (that could be wrong, I just read that somewhere) so I guess they still need to cater to the adults watching.

WWE Films hasn't followed the televised wrestling products concurrent rating in the past, Condemned was rated R, so I guess it could be standalone.

Nark Order 01-20-2009 08:20 PM

I will be watching it and I'll give an honest review of it once doing so. It really doesn't even look all that bad. I'll bet I've seen worse.

screech 01-20-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2404811)
I don't know... they can get away with quite a lot of shit on Raw for a "PG" show... I think I read recently that WWE was still rated PG even during the edgy prime Attitude era year of 1998, until they upped it in 1999 (that could be wrong, I just read that somewhere) so I guess they still need to cater to the adults watching.

WWE Films hasn't followed the televised wrestling products concurrent rating in the past, Condemned was rated R, so I guess it could be standalone.

Yeah Behind Enemy Lines III is R, so was See No Evil. It would be better for them to, as you said, cater to the adults watching. You can figure most parents will buy this for their little wrestling fans, but the non-wrestling fans may not go for a cheesy action movie if it was rated PG. (I would, but I'm just one guy.)

Kane86 01-21-2009 07:05 PM

So Officer John Triton i mean what ever the hell his name is. OH who gives a rats ass about this shit movie. I recall hearing rumor that there where trying to get Al Pacino to be the villian. Yeah ok i think Pacino would be Mr. Nanny 2 before that would happen:?:

Xero 01-21-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2404811)
I don't know... they can get away with quite a lot of shit on Raw for a "PG" show... I think I read recently that WWE was still rated PG even during the edgy prime Attitude era year of 1998, until they upped it in 1999 (that could be wrong, I just read that somewhere) so I guess they still need to cater to the adults watching.

The TV ratings system was pretty new back then, so it may have been a case of it not catching up with them until 1999. No way the product they were putting on in 98 would be considered PG now.

Savio 01-21-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2401202)
I love that people try to pass it off with the excuse of "I'll watch it, but I won't spend money on it." or, "It's mindless, it's worth a watch."

Just fuckin admit you want to see it. I'm sure the 5 bucks are inconsequential.

I will not see it, but if I wanted to I'd come out and fuckin come clean with it.

Fuck that it cost $9.75 to see a movie in my city. I would not spend that on this.

Savio 01-21-2009 08:27 PM

SPOILER....maybe?





wow did they give away the ending in the trailer? where him and his girl jump out the helicopter into the pool?

NeanderCarl 01-21-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2406328)
The TV ratings system was pretty new back then, so it may have been a case of it not catching up with them until 1999. No way the product they were putting on in 98 would be considered PG now.

Wouldn't know, we don't have a TV rating system here. Yet.

JT 01-21-2009 10:19 PM

Doesn't look bad...wouldn't mind seeing it if I had the chance.

Also, speaking about mindless action flicks...anyone else have Tango and Cash pop into their heads.

Afterlife 01-22-2009 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT Kool (Post 2406466)
Doesn't look bad...wouldn't mind seeing it if I had the chance.

Also, speaking about mindless action flicks...anyone else have Tango and Cash pop into their heads.


No. Because Tango and Cash had actors in it.

Jeritron 01-22-2009 09:46 PM

WWE: The Movie

Jeritron 01-22-2009 09:46 PM

How about The Muppets Take WWE

Xero 01-22-2009 09:51 PM

I bet Cena's next movie is a remake of this:

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Juan 01-22-2009 10:26 PM

^ lol Undertaker

Krimzon7 01-22-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2402823)
Based on this thread, I watched The Condemned last night. First WWE Film I've ever seen.

Thoroughly enjoyed it, for what it was. What a heel that Vinnie Jones is, huh?


Did the same thing, had the same result. It was shit blowing up, decent fight scenes, and I had fun watching it. It does make me want to see Kennedy's movie. Hell, I will even give the Marine a shot, there's a Wal-Mart close by.


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