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FearedSanctity 03-09-2010 06:14 PM

MNW Round 1 ratings are in...
 
RAW - 3.4
Impact! - 1.0

http://pwinsider.com/article/45767/m...tings.html?p=1

ImpactPlayer365 03-09-2010 06:15 PM

Not a surprise at all. Unless TNA promoted Velvet Sky and Lacey Von Erich lesbian shower scene

Xero 03-09-2010 06:17 PM

Not going to say it's a bad number for TNA, but it's not good. They lost viewers on this, and it was built as a huge thing. Ratings are going to only go down without "OMG TUNE IN FOR THIS SURPRISE".

And next week they're going to be demolished by Austin and the fact that the way it's being promoted, it's set up to be the Mania go-home show despite there being one more week. I'm saying no more than a .8 for TNA next week.

The question now is does Spike wait until April to see how ratings go or do they drop them back to Thursdays if they continue to bomb? Because they have three important weeks coming up against WWE (Austin, Mania go-home, night after Mania). That's enough for Spike to say "you're not getting the job done".

It's been said before by many, but it's fucking stupid for them to start just before Mania.

Xero 03-09-2010 06:24 PM

Also, it's technically a .93 for TNA rounded up, so they didn't even break 1.

ImpactPlayer365 03-09-2010 06:29 PM

Fucking stupid is correct sir. Why they are so full of themselves to think that they can go head to head with them in their peak time of the year is extremely nieve. Business wise Spike dropped the ball also, why would you allow them to? Just look at the product.

Nicky Fives 03-09-2010 06:30 PM

not surprised at all....

KayfabeMan 03-09-2010 06:37 PM

Numbers aren't everything - BUT next week's TNA show looks weak. It will certainly do worse than yesterdays.

ClockShot 03-09-2010 06:40 PM

Impact may get an teeny tiny increase next week in rating.

Pretty much a given we're getting "Diet" Stone Cold Steve Austin as a host next week. No beers or birds are gonna be flying so the older audience might get bummed out. Kids will go crazy regardless.

Still, I'll tune in next week.

HBPunk 03-09-2010 06:41 PM

Overall its 4.4 so thats up from last weeks raw and raw's rating was down from recent weeks so thats not all bad

viO 03-09-2010 06:41 PM

I'm surprised they didn't atleast match 1.2, it'll be interesting to see how they react.

The Franchise 03-09-2010 06:44 PM

No birds probably but why no beer bash? Beer drinking is fine for "PG"

Not surprised at all by this. TNA picked the worst time and this is not even a Monday Night War. It's so uneven it's not even funny. WWE is about to have an event with 65,000 people in the audience and TNA has like what, 800 in the iMPACT Zone? It's like david vs Goliath on roids.

viO 03-09-2010 06:46 PM

The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?

PullMyFinger 03-09-2010 06:50 PM

It's going to take time end of story. I wouldn't panic unless TNA stays consistant at .7 for weeks. but Monday from 8-10 was the smarter idea, idk who decided 9-11. Whatever though.

Things won't change overnight.

The Franchise 03-09-2010 06:50 PM

Hmm I guess better build? Also Hogan debuting probably helped

PullMyFinger 03-09-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viO (Post 2972533)
The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?

More build up, more hype, and that first hour gave them a huge major boost. They netted like a 1.8 during that hour.

viO 03-09-2010 06:52 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot they had a three hour show that night.

Xero 03-09-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viO (Post 2972533)
The only reason the rating surprises me is that they got a 1.5 on the January 4th edition of Impact, what was done differently then to gain viewers? More buildup? More hype?

Those are factors but the huge ones were a huge name being brought in to lure old fans (Hogan) and the extra hour lead-in.

FourFifty 03-09-2010 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayfabeMan (Post 2972526)
Numbers aren't everything - BUT next week's TNA show looks weak. It will certainly do worse than yesterdays.

To the hardcore fans and to the casual fans that is correct. Numbers aren't everything.... However you try to sell ad time on cable show with low ratings. I'm fairly sure in a few weeks TNA's numbers will cause them to promote one of their PPVs sponsored by the Wunder Boner.
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Innovator 03-09-2010 06:57 PM

HA

Xero 03-09-2010 06:58 PM

I can just imagine Don West pushing it.

"DON WEST HERE! AND I WANT YOU TO BUY MY WUNDER BONER!"

PullMyFinger 03-09-2010 07:01 PM

I think the rating is pretty weak. But people just need to relax. WWE's rating was down too. Give it time, I'm confident in a few weeks TNA's monday rating standard will go back to 1.3, and then it's up to them to increase it.

The only problem like I said was starting this right before Wrestlemania, doing live every other week as opposed to every week, and not going from 8-10. Their rating would have easily been a 1.5 if they started at 8.

jskinnyg 03-09-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 2972527)
Impact may get an teeny tiny increase next week in rating.

Pretty much a given we're getting "Diet" Stone Cold Steve Austin as a host next week. No beers or birds are gonna be flying so the older audience might get bummed out. Kids will go crazy regardless.

Still, I'll tune in next week.

Man , I hope the PG BS doesn't limit the beer bashing, that would be F' in stupid... Maybe he'll bash some pespsi together and join up with Punk... Doesn't need to shave... Kidding of course...

jskinnyg 03-09-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger (Post 2972553)
I think the rating is pretty weak. But people just need to relax. WWE's rating was down too. Give it time, I'm confident in a few weeks TNA's monday rating standard will go back to 1.3, and then it's up to them to increase it.

The only problem like I said was starting this right before Wrestlemania, doing live every other week as opposed to every week, and not going from 8-10. Their rating would have easily been a 1.5 if they started at 8.

And I would agree with that... Start at 8 kids... Give the egos a rest...

roach21 03-09-2010 07:10 PM

While I agree that going against WWE during the weeks building up to the biggest wrestling PPV of the year is incredibly stupid, in TNA's defense they had to capitalize off of the initial excitement and buzz that the first Monday night provided so they were kind of damned if they do damned if they don't. Starting at 8 is also a goo idea.

The Pope 03-09-2010 07:11 PM

I love Xero's avatar

viO 03-09-2010 07:12 PM

Here are the quarterhours for Impact :

0.99, 0.98, 1.00, 1.07, 1.07, 1.03, 0.95, and 0.76

It appears most people switched over for Cena vs Mcmahon near the end, that probably brought the overall rating down a bit.

Innovator 03-09-2010 07:48 PM

So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say

The Pope 03-09-2010 07:50 PM

Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?

HBPunk 03-09-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 2972580)
Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?

cos he does

Juan 03-09-2010 08:25 PM

I wonder if people will still call this the "monday night wars" after this.

FourFifty 03-09-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 2972580)
Why does Vince always think he equals ratings?

Once again the space time continuum has been ripped apart by fate, for this question has already been answered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2972546)
However you try to sell ad time on cable show with low ratings. I'm fairly sure in a few weeks TNA's numbers will cause them to promote one of their PPVs sponsored by the Wunder Boner.
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The Pope 03-09-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2972620)
Once again the space time continuum has been ripped apart by fate, for this question has already been answered.

The ratings stayed the same, they didn't go up with him "wrestling" on RAW.

Emperor Smeat 03-09-2010 08:33 PM

Shouldn't this technically be Round 2 since they already faced off a few weeks ago?

At least TNA was able to keep the rating at 1.0 but Spike should really move them back to 8-10pm for a few months to help build up a Monday audience and improve the show (promos/booking/wrestling).

TNA won't get any better in ratings so they should use the next 3 weeks to build up for the post-Wrestlemania weeks where WWE begins to drop in show quality.

Xero 03-09-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 2972632)
The ratings stayed the same, they didn't go up with him "wrestling" on RAW.

Actually you don't know that, at least for that segment. No RAW quarter hours are up.

Juan 03-09-2010 08:42 PM

Dr. Perfect knows everything though.

RGWhat316 03-09-2010 08:45 PM

Wow, Flair and Hogan's return to wrestling only get them that? I'm really not that surprised, but I still do think TNA would be better off going from 8-10.

Xero 03-09-2010 08:50 PM

From PWInsider:

On his twitter page, Ted Linhart, the Vice President of the USA Network of Program Research commented on Monday's ratings, commenting "Not much of a Monday Night "War". RAW trounced TNA by 275% w/ total viewers. Also Impact much lower than the test Monday ep in early Jan."

For what it is worth, SpikeTV sources indicate they are fine with TNA's rating, in that the demographics for 18-34 were well and the series brought its Thursday audience over to Monday. It was seen as the first step in a larger goal for the Impact show.

viO 03-09-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2972578)
So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say

Well, hopefully if they work on a better main event from now on, they can average out with a better rating. The quarterhour ratings didn't look too bad, just not much of a main event to look forward too.

Juan 03-09-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2972578)
So the ratings went down when two fat old guys were bleeding all over each other? you don't say

lol

viO 03-09-2010 08:55 PM

To be fair, I didn't expect much more out of Cena vs Mcmahon either, Vince isn't exactly a great performer himself either.


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