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Mr. C 09-15-2010 03:31 AM

Matt Hardy: The Reinvention of a Career
 
Okay, this is something that’s been brewing in my head for a while. Matt Hardy is over, but that’s because of his association in a team years ago, and it’s time for him to move on. This thread is about what changes are needed to his character.

Hardy reminds me a bit of Bradshaw after WrestleMania XX. If you’d told me he’d become the WWE Champion at the time, I would’ve laughed, but he reinvented himself. That’s the kind of crossroad I see Hardy at. If he stays the same as he is now, he could easily be left behind. He has all the talent he needs to make it work and has improved enough in the ring that he could become something special. If he doesn’t, I fear he’ll always be trapped in his brother’s shadow and never really move on.

I’m hoping that he gets a makeover in terms of his look. Changing his music and getting rid of the beard could help. What Hardy should do is do what Stone Cold Steve Austin did while Bret Hart was taking time off and start calling out Triple-H. Talk him until he decides to answer Hardy’s challenge and face him at Survivor Series.

Tazz Dan 09-15-2010 03:32 AM

Do we really need another Matt Hardy thread? :nono:

Fignuts 09-15-2010 03:45 AM

Should never have turned face again after his feud with Jeff. That was his best chance.

teamXtremist 09-15-2010 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3245890)
Should never have turned face again after his feud with Jeff. That was his best chance.

exactly but being jeff left it wasnt really his fault wwe had no choice and turned him back face asap but your right since then his career has died

Mr. Nerfect 09-15-2010 06:02 AM

His heel run got botched when he was drafted to RAW. I think the best thing they could do with Hardy at the moment is either release him, put him in a tag team with Christian (but that could weigh down Christian), or have him feud with Captain Charisma.

Matt Hardy is pretty crazy, so maybe they should make that his "gimmick?" Have Alberto Del Rio beat Christian when it comes time for their match, and afterwards, Del Rio looks to "Rey Mysterio" Christian's arm. Matt Hardy runs down for the save like Christian did for him -- and then turns on Christian, beating him down with the steel chair Del Rio was going to use.

Hardy can then cut a promo about how he made the Hardy name a gold-mine, and he's been constantly disrespected by his peers, WWE management and Christian -- who treated him like a child who needed protecting. He doesn't need protection; the WWE needs protection from him.

"The Virus" Matt Hardy then becomes a top heel on SmackDown!.

Schlomey 09-15-2010 06:56 AM

He has former child star syndrome and probably won't be able to get past it. I can't think of anything that he can do to make me change how I look at him.

XL 09-15-2010 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3245885)
Do we really need another Matt Hardy thread? :nono:


Gertner 09-15-2010 08:57 AM

Matt Hardy is not and has never been World Champ material.

TheAdamEvansFan 09-15-2010 09:06 AM

Face it.. Hardy was never good at a singles contender. He is better when he is teamed up with his brother, just like D-von with 3D/Dudleyz.

If Jeff comes back, and they can revamp the tag team, then he has a legitimate future in the WWE.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't go to TNA for the time being and team with Jeff and Shane Helms vs 3D.

JEPW 09-15-2010 09:10 AM

Was the less exciting part of a good tag team about a decade ago. End of.

Jimmy Cones 09-15-2010 09:18 AM

I respect what Matt has done, but I honestly can't stand watching him anymore. His promos aren't very good and he doesn't move around in the ring like he used to. I feel like he's given way more then expected of him and his body and in return he's a bit broken down and will never have the opportunity to have a good singles shot again.

Rammsteinmad 09-15-2010 10:09 AM

Definitely agree that he should reinvent himself. He's had the same gimmick for the last seven years, and it's really a gimmick either, he's just a guy lol.

He should cut his hair for starters, that'll change him more than enough.

Maybe a haircut and a suit for some heel promos could make him more interesting?

TGR 09-15-2010 10:19 AM

Matt was definitely the brains of the two Hardy brothers, and OMEGA in general. He put just about everyone there on the map.

It's kinda sad to watch him spinning his wheels in WWE now. That guy has a great future as a promoter or a road agent once he retires...if he survives to retire.

Innovator 09-15-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3245972)
Matt Hardy is not and has never been World Champ material.

His one shot was in 2005, and that return promo killed his chances.

MoFo 09-15-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3245972)
Matt Hardy is not and has never been World Champ material.


Wishbone 09-15-2010 10:59 AM

I've always been a die hard Matt Hardy mark but I have to agree that at this point somethings gotta give. Matt needs to reinvent himself but even then I dout it'll go anywhere past an intercontinental Championship run. Matt is pretty much done at this point especially with WWE's 'youth movement' going on and even a revamped look and character won't save him from the inevitable fall. At best Matt can change and go out with style or continue down this path and forever be remembered as the other Hardy Boy.

incognito123 09-15-2010 11:38 AM

He will be cut soon. Then he will show up on TNA after Dixie teases another "HUGE surprise". But this time, the surprise will definately be HUGE!! ha

Innovator 09-15-2010 11:39 AM

He's just a jealous older brother. I mean he can't even let Jeff be the fattest Hardy.

george 09-15-2010 12:11 PM

^^ Maybe Jeff needs to lay off the red meat too.

bigslimjj 09-15-2010 12:41 PM

V2.0 in TNA.

Evil Vito 09-15-2010 02:13 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Health issues aside, I think WWE dropped the ball twice, maybe three times with Matt. Mattitude was awesome, but he probably could have used that to elevate him even higher up the card. Eventually he could have evolved to Matt Hardy Version 2, and be a WWE Title contender. But still, I'll give it a pass because the other two instances are we more blatant.

He was shit hot in his 2005 return, and when he jobbed to Edge in the Loser Leaves Raw match he was made to look strong. They could have pushed him huge over on SmackDown and instead he just sorta floundered in the midcard.

More recently, I thought he would go places during his 2009 heel run, especially after beating Jeff at WM. He got his commupence at the end, which was fine...but moving over to Raw wound up being his undoing. Moving to Raw is death for most midcarders with momentum, and Matt was no exception. I was really disappointed when they moved him back over to SmackDown and his feud with Jeff got thrown right out the window.</font>

Schlomey 09-15-2010 02:25 PM

I was reading John Canton's "The John Report" - He "assumes" that Hardy will be gone by the end of the month. He stated that it's just a hunch basing his opinions off his tweets and some chatter or whatever.



Obviously that's not a news note and is not something I want quoted. Just relaying the info I read.


HUNCH. is the key word here, fellas.

The Pope 09-15-2010 02:31 PM

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XL 09-15-2010 02:34 PM

I think Hardy suffered a lot from the "flip-flop" they did with his heel/face alignment. I feel that can really harm a character as the audience "don't know where they stand" with the character. We went from Matt literally trying to kill his brother to him coming out and saying "Ooops. My bad. I'm a nice guy now though".

The constant change of alignment is something that breaks the suspension of disbelief for me. That one was like a slap in the face to reasoned character progression.

Of course, I may be putting too much stock in that issue, maybe it's just that he got fat.

Favre4Ever 09-15-2010 03:07 PM

First thing Matt needs to prove to me is that he can lose some weight. We'll talk about a gimmick change after that.

jskinnyg 09-15-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 3245940)
He has former child star syndrome and probably won't be able to get past it. I can't think of anything that he can do to make me change how I look at him.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

And... Amen to that Schlomey... This guy has fallen off the deep end and into the cheeseburger cart...

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 07:13 PM

How about he just stops his career.

bigslimjj 09-15-2010 07:20 PM

TNA could incorporate twitter,facebook,and other internet sites to his intrance.Have him tweet during the matches. Accept friend requests etc. i think it would be awesome really.

FourFifty 09-15-2010 07:50 PM

Matt Fact- Matt Hardy is not very talented.

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 07:52 PM

I was gone for awhile and I come back to 2 Matt Hardy threads. What the fuck is going on around here?

McLegend 09-15-2010 07:53 PM

Shouldn't this thread be called Matt Hardy The Devinention of a Career?

FourFifty 09-15-2010 07:55 PM

The new Matt Hardy DVD is due out by new years. "Mattitude Adjustment- How The Lesser Half Of A Once Great Tag Team Never Got Nearly As Over As His More Talented Drugged Out Younger Brother."

Next Big Thing 09-15-2010 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3246041)
He's just a jealous older brother. I mean he can't even let Jeff be the fattest Hardy.

Matt Fact- Matt had a muffin top hanging over his size huskyXXXL trunks before Jeff got all his hardcore drugs seized and regained an appetite.

FourFifty 09-15-2010 09:19 PM

http://www.thewrestlinganswer.com/im...dybiggut/1.jpg

Next Big Thing 09-15-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3246404)

Matt: Christian, before you came out how did the catering table look? Do you think there's any corn dogs left in catering? Don't you lie to me either.... There probably isn't.... That fucker Punk's probably eating the last of them..... I hate being undercard.... If I get back there and end up eating salad and the meat no one wanted for the fifth straight week I'm gonna take it to twitter man.

Christian: That's fine man... just get out of my face... you smell like Chinese food and b.o.

Matt: Only God and twitter can judge me man so who the fuck are you?

Testicle 09-15-2010 09:37 PM

1. Shave his head.

2. Get cool black and white long tights (not pants).

3. Use a new finisher, something quick that can be used at anytime on anyone.

This worked for Mutoh it can work for Hardy.

CSL 09-15-2010 09:39 PM

The Great Matta. Instead of mist, he spits lyrically about how over he is on the internet. Finish of choice: BACKDROP-OOOOOOO.

Testicle 09-15-2010 09:40 PM

WIN!

Afterlife 09-15-2010 10:37 PM

Doesn't Matt claim he's going to reinvent himself every January?

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 10:43 PM

This thread should be called

Matt Hard: How Twitter,Fast Food, and Booze killed my career.


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