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Mr. Nerfect 11-26-2010 09:02 PM

So let's talk NXT Season Four
 
Should there be a fourth season, first and foremost? Personally, I like the concept, and I think that the WWE went completely off the track with it when they decided to use the Divas concept this season. The way the WWE treats their women? Yeah, no buys.

The concept is a great way to introduce new talent to the WWE audience, and interact with some top stars very early on into their careers. You just have to make sure you don't call up too many guys that are too green, like Titus O'Neill, Eli Cottonwood and David Otunga.

With Seth Rollins, Xavier Woods, Johnny Curtis, Kenny Li, Jinder Mahal, Tito Colon, Hunico, Damien Sandow, Wes Brisco, Brad Maddox and even Bo Rotundo in development, there are plenty of guys to help a show like that out. Couple them with interesting Pros, and you've got yourself a winning season.

For some reason, the idea of Edge mentoring Seth Rollins intrigues me. LayCool being paired with Sandow could be entertaining, too -- and could eventually lead to Sandow feuding with Kaval. David Hart Smith and Tyson Kidd ending up as Pros on NXT 4 could be a great way to continue the tension between them, and get two new guys over, as well.

What sort of stuff would you like to see in a fourth season of NXT?

Anybody Thrilla 11-26-2010 09:04 PM

I'd like to see it back on an actual television station and not just the internet, for one.

Triple Naitch 11-26-2010 09:04 PM

I wanna see Mason Ryan, but he will probably squash everyone. Is Richie Steamboat ready yet?

Triple Naitch 11-26-2010 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3335851)
I'd like to see it back on an actual television station and not just the internet, for one.

Yeah I never understood why SyFy chose not to keep it because they were getting SmackDown. If SmackDown is your highest rated show, wouldn't you want something else of the same genre that would get the same audience?

VSG 11-26-2010 09:07 PM

Also, NXT probably draws a lot more people than most SyFy shows.

Ermaximus 11-26-2010 09:10 PM

I too would like to see Steamboat. To make it better, Jericho should come back and be his pro.

Xero 11-26-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3335860)
Yeah I never understood why SyFy chose not to keep it because they were getting SmackDown. If SmackDown is your highest rated show, wouldn't you want something else of the same genre that would get the same audience?

They get their original and recycled crap for a lot less than it would take to pay WWE to keep it on the network, I'm sure.

Xero 11-26-2010 09:12 PM

I want Sheik to be a pro.

Ermaximus 11-26-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3335879)
I want Sheik to be a pro.

"Brett Dibbiase, me an yur dat we wratsle and fawking hulk hogan an that lil faggot b brian blair I fawking kill them."

VSG 11-26-2010 09:16 PM

We need Booker T to return as a trainer for Tough Enough, if not NXT.

Lock Jaw 11-26-2010 09:47 PM

Michael Cole is gonna be a pro next season. If there is one.

Also, it will be an all-midget season of NXT to determine WWE's next breakout mini.

BizarroKing 11-26-2010 09:52 PM

I have not been able to see too many of the FCW superstars in action but here's who and what I would like to see

Rookie: Pro

Seth Rollins: Santino Marella
Johnny Curtis: Curt Hawkins
Jackson Andrews: Beth Phoenix
Hunico: Rey Mysterio
Jinder Mahal: The Great Khali (he's still employed yes?)
Mason Ryan: Drew McIntyre
Xavier Woods: Jack Swagger
Brett Dibiase (if he's 100%): Ted Dibiase

-The "internet darling" mixed up with Santino the comic goof.
-Hunico could be the "next Rey Mysterio" with Rey there as mentor and listens to whatever Rey tells him. However, he eventually turns on him leading to a feud between the two.
-Brett and Ted are pretty self explanatory.
-Khali teaching a rookie of indian heritage
-Swagger as a pro trying to mold Xavier to be like him but to little avail
-Drew and Mason just seemed like a natural fit
-Hawkins and Curtis just seemed like something WWE might do
-And I just thought Beth Phoenix as a pro would be interesting. Team her up with the big Jackson Andrews

So yea what do you think?

BizarroKing 11-26-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3335915)
Michael Cole is gonna be a pro next season. If there is one.

Also, it will be an all-midget season of NXT to determine WWE's next breakout mini.

So Hornswoggle will be a pro as well? XD

Droford 11-26-2010 10:22 PM

They need to do Tag Teams

VSG 11-26-2010 10:23 PM

Tyler Black as a rookie can be the successor to Daniel Bryan/Kaval.

Ermaximus 11-26-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3335941)
They need to do Tag Teams

So then the season would be 3 weeks long?

Droford 11-26-2010 10:25 PM

Im sure they could dig up 12 guys to form 6 tag teams

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-26-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3335944)
So then the season would be 3 weeks long?

Sounds like a plan to me! :y: If only season three could have lasted that short.

Lock Jaw 11-27-2010 12:03 AM

Is it wrong that season 3 is the only season I have watched in its entirety?

And that I watched it mostly for the commentary?

Evil Vito 11-27-2010 12:30 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Here's my guesses, assuming no pros are used from older seasons:

Rookies: Brodus Clay, Derrick Bateman, Hunico, Jackson Andrews, Johnny Curtis, Mason Ryan, Wes Brisco, Xavier Woods

Pros: Big Show, Chavo Guerrero, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Santino Marella, Ted DiBiase, Vladimir Kozlov

Let's try to pair them up:

Brodus Clay: Vladimir Kozlov
Derrick Bateman: Big Show
Hunico: Chavo Guerrero
Jackson Andrews: Jack Swagger
Johnny Curtis: Dolph Ziggler
Mason Ryan: Ted DiBiase
Wes Brisco: Santino Marella
Xavier Woods: Daniel Bryan

Storylines include Woods being this year's "internet darling" while Cole is all like "oh sure, pair one internet darling with another". He can also bitch that Bryan has no business being a Pro with less than a year's experience. You also have the usual mix of some pros not liking their rookies, some rookies not liking their pros, and compatible pairings. Mason Ryan feels like the obvious winner here, and I envision DiBiase trying to buy him as a bodyguard but Ryan has none of it. Chavo's rookie also speaks only Spanish so Chavo decides to be a dick and ad-lib his promos and put words into his mouth.

All of these guys were filmed at last weekend's FCW show, and 3 of them (Ryan, Clay, Andrews) have been working dark matches so they all feel likely.</font>

Phenomenal 1 11-27-2010 12:46 AM

Probably not going to be doing another season of NXT....rumors are circulating that WWE is making posts for tryouts and advertising a reviving of the original Tough Enough series. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Droford 11-27-2010 12:59 AM

Tough Enough the Next Generation

TENXTG

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2010 01:09 AM

So are these the names those potiental NXTers will have? Or are they going to get the NXT Name Generator treatment?

RiX1024 11-27-2010 01:49 AM

If Mason is paired with Santino I'd piss myself.

St. Jimmy 11-27-2010 02:24 AM

Tyler Black.

Brigstocke 11-27-2010 03:07 AM

I've seen quite a bit of Mason Ryan on internet clippings and on UK Gladiators and also live at Butlins where he had a great match with the now 'Brutus Magnus' Nick Aldis.

The thing with him is that he needs to be portrayed as an invincible destroyer who's only goal is winning, He is without doubt the next Bill Goldberg.

He would be better introduced to the 'WWE Universe' in another way. Have him make the save for a face who's on the end of a beatdown, then have him refuse to shake hands with the face so he remains a bit of a loner. Not a heel but nobodies friend. a bit loose cannonish.

I think having him jump through hoops on NXT playing ridiculous games is going to be detrimental to that image, They need to have him refuse to take part in ridiculous things like running round the ring with a barrel. He should just lift it and walk slowly and reluctantly. Would love to see a few of the pro's appear afraid of him, (Santino, Chavo, Ryder etc) Have him lay out his pro on a match on Raw or Smackdown then as the opponent go to say thanks then lay out his pro's opponent aswell.

VSG 11-27-2010 09:09 AM

Agreed 100% with Brigger, Mason Ryan is more suited to make a "shocking" debut at a PPV or even Raw.

itsmeJD 11-27-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3335946)
Im sure they could dig up 12 guys to form 6 tag teams

Only to break them up throughout the season ending with 1 tag team; the winning team would then break up after being unable to beat Slater and Gabriel for the tag belts the following week on RAW

Mr. Nerfect 11-27-2010 10:22 AM

I'm actually going to start with the Pros. Here are the eight Pros I would choose for next season:

Big Show: A former World Champion with something to promote, could use the extra exposure, and could be genuinely entertaining within the format.

David Hart Smith: Although they seem out of place in this list; I don't mind the idea of DH Smith and Tyson Kidd competing with their rookies, to see who manages to keep theirs in the longest. It also balances things out on the RAW and SmackDown! side, and keeps a balanced face/heel dynamic.

Edge: The usually selfish Edge would lend an interesting coaching dynamic towards whoever he is paired with. Plus, Edge is a former nine-time World Champion (and might be winning his tenth soon). This all adds up to someone who can be taken seriously as a WWE Pro.

Jack Swagger: Another former World Champion who could use some time going over some rookies. Plus, I really want to see the pairing of him and Wes Brisco together. They could play up Swagger being discovered by Wes' father.

Rey Mysterio: Anyone Rey Mysterio is mentoring is going to be instantly over with the fanbase. As a former World Heavyweight Champion and Royal Rumble winner, he also has the credibility to be an effective coach.

Sheamus: I don't know why, but the idea of Sheamus being a Pro is interesting to me. As a former two-time WWE Champion, Sheamus could give a guy credibility, heat, and a continued on-air relationship would be interesting in a Miz/Alex Riley sort of way.

The Miz: Yeah, he's been on it for two previous seasons, but now that he's the WWE Champion it can lend something else to his coaching. There's nothing wrong with having your champion's face pop-up places, either. You've also got the dynamic between Miz and Big Show to play on. He can also send out Alex Riley to wrestle the rookies sometimes, which can be further development for Riley and be a good gauge of where the rookies stand on the credibility ladder.

Tyson Kidd: Essentially the same sort of deal as with DH Smith. This could also allow Kidd to really show off his skills with former World Champions, and put himself over as "Bret Hart's protoge" and "The Crown Prince of the WWE." Having both members of the former Hart Dynasty there could also allow for some Natalya appearances on NXT. And that wouldn't be a bad thing.


Now, as for who their rookies could be?

Big Show: Xavier Woods
David Hart Smith: Johnny Curtis
Edge: Seth Rollins
Jack Swagger: Wes Brisco
Rey Mysterio: Hunico
Sheamus: Conor O'Brien
The Miz: Jackson Andrews
Tyson Kidd: Richie Steamboat


Big Show is paired with a guy he puts over as having perhaps an even larger heart than himself. Plus, the idea of having them in tag team matches would be Woods absorbing the punishment and then tagging in Show who dominates, tags in Woods, who gets the pin.

DH Smith can be paired with Johnny Curtis. This is just a random one, but Smith could put over that Curtis was trained by the legendary Killer Kowalski, and that now he gets the secrets of the Hart and Smith family passed onto him.

Edge and Seth Rollins would be an interesting partnership, and Rollins could get quite over from it, as he really has the talent to succeed. A match I saw between him and Richie Steamboat from FCW recently was really quite amazing.

Jack Swagger taking on Wes Brisco is one that I really want to see. Gerald Brisco, Wes' father, discovered Swagger. It'd be an interesting dynamic that could either cause tension or allow them to get along well.

Rey Mysterio and Hunico being paired up because the two are both masked is pretty cliche, but they would get over so well, and you know this. Plus, I've given up on the WWE trying to form tag teams, and Tito Colon can just be used as Primo's tag team partner, anyway, since Primo isn't really doing anything.

Sheamus could say that Conor O'Brien is descended from Irish lineage, and that can fill him with pride in his rookie. The former Ryan O'Reilly is not a worker I am too familiar with, but there are plenty of solid workers in the season to help carry him if he's shitty.

The Miz has had an indy darling, a guy like him, so why not stick him with a massive guy? That guy can lose and then still show up under "personal contract" to The Miz, and continue to help him dominate RAW. Plus, Andrews has been working dark matches, so the WWE should be looking at him pretty closely. I know Mason Ryan has been doing the same, but I agree that him debuting straight away on RAW or SmackDown! might be more effective, and hide his shortcomings better.

Tyson Kidd being paired with Richie Steamboat could build Kidd's heat. Especially if he looked down on the Steamboat legacy, and even wrestling families, and developed a persona where he claims he had to work for everything he had because he wasn't born into a famous family of wrestling. It could lead to a feud between rookie and Pro, with the matches being quite amazing.

Some changes I would like to see to NXT 4:

* A reward for the Pros as well as the rookies. It would just go a little further into explaining why they are creating new Superstars, and thus more competition for themselves.

* Perhaps when the guys are eliminated, you can have some sort of stipulation where if they manage to defeat their Pro, they get a spot on the same roster as them. It allows them to call up guys if they are ready, or send them back down to FCW if they are not. It also gives them a big win to ride if they do get it, and doesn't mean that the emotional attachment people develop in these guys is for nothing. If they are good enough, they get contracts.

* Less of those shitty challenges. More of a focus on the guys' wins and losses. Give immunity out in Beat the Clock Challenges, Battle Royals, etc. if you need to have a hook, whatever. People don't want to watch kissing competitions, though.

* Allow the NXT guys to get extra exposure on RAW and SmackDown! by consistently appearing with their Pros. The WWE did a good job of this with the season three girls. But it would do wonders for Conor O'Brien if people saw him on RAW for the duration of his stint in NXT. Hell, they might even get used to it.

VSG 11-27-2010 10:26 AM

Why is everyone ignoring Tyler Black? Except for St. Jimmy clearly.

Edit: LOL never mind, I had no idea he was Seth Rollins. The NXT name generator struck again!

Tommy Gunn 11-27-2010 05:25 PM

Season 1 and 2 were awesome, I haven't watched a second of Season 3, because a program dedicated to divas seems pointless, especially with all the jobber pros they've got, who cares?

Bring back an all male season 4 with decent mid-card pros like in the first seasons.

DLVH84 11-27-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3335941)
They need to do Tag Teams

Yeah, Droford. I'm sick and tired of Vince trying to make temporary teams out of singles stars. Get some LEGITIMATE TAG TEAMS with team names, identical ring gear, and fluid double-team moves with no hesitation from either man.

Lock Jaw 11-27-2010 06:21 PM

Killer Bees <s>2</s>3000

Ultra Mantis 11-27-2010 07:22 PM

Of course the best way to create legitimate tag teams is by sticking random FCW guys together and throwing them straight onto NXT where they will expose all of their flaws and lack of experience working as a team.

bince2200 11-27-2010 07:27 PM

really i think wwe need to have some of u guys on there creative team cause yall have some good ideas wrestling in wwe have been so so i member when i was younger i was pissed if i missed wwf or wcw or ecw now if i miss something iam like watever pg wwe sucks ass

Triple Naitch 11-27-2010 09:44 PM

Is Conor O'Brien supposed to have another late night talk show host gimmick?

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2010 02:15 AM

Not to my knowledge. He's Ryan O'Reilly (far better name, although I'd want to see his kayfabe brother, "Cyril" called up at some point), who was at one point signed to a WWE development deal, but he and his girlfriend walked from the company just after she debuted on WWE television. It was a shame, too, because she was quite hot.

http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LR...3/K8MEF00Z.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 11-30-2010 02:17 AM

This is Conor O'Brien. Not sure if he still has the same look about him. But he and Sheamus just seem like a natural fit.

http://carolinaindependentwrestling....an-OReilly.jpg

My Final Heaven 11-30-2010 08:40 AM

Is his finisher some kind of RKO/Jackhammer fusion? If not, it should be.

VSG 11-30-2010 08:47 AM

Wow he is a monster.


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