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ooTin 12-08-2010 09:00 PM

Lets Help TNA Wrestling
 
This is a thread for the TNA executives to read... not that they will but who cares. Any suggestions that yo believe would make TNA Wrestling a better, more profitable corporation that could compete with the WWE.



EX: Fire Russo because his stories are all used up and he has nothing to offer the wrestling business anymore....

LoDownM 12-08-2010 09:02 PM

Just buy them the Rise and Fall of WCW dvd and tell them to not try to replicate the last parts of the dvd.

TheAdamEvansFan 12-08-2010 09:03 PM

Permanently move Dixie Carter from RINGSIDE.

TheAdamEvansFan 12-08-2010 09:03 PM

Come to the Midwest.

TheAdamEvansFan 12-08-2010 09:04 PM

Get out of that small studio. Too condensed, looks like they are in a high school gym.

ooTin 12-08-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 3350277)
Come to the Midwest.

I like that idea... they need to broaden their horizons.

TheAdamEvansFan 12-08-2010 09:04 PM

More promos like parking lot brawls, etc.. Get creative.

Razzamajazz 12-08-2010 09:07 PM

hire adam evans and give him the title

CSL 12-08-2010 09:10 PM

In the words of Ole Anderson, 'quit being so damn dumb'. They have more than enough talent to be successful and using the right talent the right way will only attract more potential employees in terms of star power, which combined with a good product should only lead to more viewers/fans. I really think it's that simple for them. They have the backing, a nice TV deal/spot and the foundation to be a legit number 2/worthy alternative. They're just really really dumb. For every positive step forward they take, they counteract it by tying their legs together and attempting sprint backwards.

MoFo 12-08-2010 09:12 PM

Give up and start a new company.

XL 12-08-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 3350280)
More promos like parking lot brawls, etc.. Get creative.

Just what they need, more parking lot brawls...:roll:

SOCCER LEGS 12-08-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3350289)
Give up and start a new company.

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ooTin 12-08-2010 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3350289)
Give up and start a new company.

that is not a helpful suggestion

Ermaximus 12-08-2010 09:54 PM

1) Reward the talent that's been there for them since the start.
2) Bring back what got them so over in the first place.
3) Fire Russo and get better booking.
4) Stop making the show revolve around Hogan, Bischoff, and what have you.
5) Like CSL said, STOP BEING STUPID.

Purgatory 12-08-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ooTin (Post 3350306)
that is not a helpful suggestion

Sometimes, you just gotta know when to throw your cards in. Closing down and starting over with fresh talent, some new ideas, etc...Sounds like a decent solution.

Some other things:

1. First and foremost: Drop 'Dusthead' Jeff Hardy. Seriously. They spend a ton of money to push this jobber through the roof, knowing hell-well that he's just gonna fuck it all up. Plus, he's goin to jail. Let the fuck rot.

2. Quit centering everything around Immortal, or whatever they're calling themselves now. They've got plenty of other talent that could pull ratings.

3. Stop featuring the Knockouts in Parking lot brawls every week. Now, I do appreciate their usage of the Knockouts though. It shows they're putting some kind of effort into a Division that a certain other company doesn't.

4. I hate how they've got their episodes named, foreshadowing what's gonna happen on the show. It's stupid and further cheapens and already cheap looking show.

ooTin 12-08-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Purgatory (Post 3350320)
Sometimes, you just gotta know when to throw your cards in. Closing down and starting over with fresh talent, some new ideas, etc...Sounds like a decent solution.

Some other things:

1. First and foremost: Drop 'Dusthead' Jeff Hardy. Seriously. They spend a ton of money to push this jobber through the roof, knowing hell-well that he's just gonna fuck it all up. Plus, he's goin to jail. Let the fuck rot.

2. Quit centering everything around Immortal, or whatever they're calling themselves now. They've got plenty of other talent that could pull ratings.

3. Stop featuring the Knockouts in Parking lot brawls every week. Now, I do appreciate their usage of the Knockouts though. It shows they're putting some kind of effort into a Division that a certain other company doesn't.

4. I hate how they've got their episodes named, foreshadowing what's gonna happen on the show. It's stupid and further cheapens and already cheap looking show.

Now those are good suggestions.... for the most part. I really like what you said about Jeff Hardy.

ooTin 12-08-2010 10:13 PM

Lets keep this rolling...
How could TNA survive with out the money that Hogan and Bischoff are putting into the company?

CSL 12-08-2010 10:19 PM

Perfectly fine since Hogan and Bischoff haven't put any money into TNA.

Razzamajazz 12-08-2010 10:22 PM

lol

Droford 12-08-2010 10:32 PM

Stop signing WWE's castoffs.

People didn't care about them in the WWE, they aren't going to care about them in TNA.

Anybody Thrilla 12-08-2010 10:50 PM

I think they need to admit that wrestling is fake. I don't mean come out and have Jeff Jarrett cut a promo talking about how what they do is predetermined or anything, but they should at least stop trying to convince people otherwise.

The backstage promos, for example. They're all shot from seemingly hidden cameras that the wrestlers NEVER notice, and it comes off as ridiculously tacky. Yes, I know an argument can be made that a lot of people wouldn't say what they were saying if they knew they were being filmed, and I see what they're TRYING to accomplish...but they're failing.

Wrestling is very formulaic, and it's tried and tested. TNA, however, has this incessant urge to constantly try and "reinvent the wheel", so to speak (six-sided ring, entire PPVs of gimmick matches, RIDICULOUS gimmick matches, etc.). This line of thinking has plagued them for a long time. They need to realize that you CAN stick to the tried and tested wrestling formula and still be entertaining without thinking TOO far outside of the box.

I figure the reason that they do it is just to provide an alternative to WWE, which is fine in theory...but maybe instead of worrying about WWE at all, they should just find their own niche and do whatever it is that THEY do best. I know that they want to compete with the big dogs, but it's just not time yet.

Sorry, that turned out much longer than I expected.

TazFTW86 12-08-2010 10:53 PM

Make Desmond Wolf champ!...btw where is he?

ooTin 12-08-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3350359)

I figure the reason that they do it is just to provide an alternative to WWE, which is fine in theory...but maybe instead of worrying about WWE at all, they should just find their own niche and do whatever it is that THEY do best. I know that they want to compete with the big dogs, but it's just not time yet.

Good incite. That is what MADE TNA Wrestling so awesome when it first started up. You had guys like AJ, Jarrett, James Storm, and others who were reinventing the way wrestling was performed. And now it seems very commercial.

Purgatory 12-08-2010 11:01 PM

I read recently that he worked an episode of TNA XPlosion (whatever the fuck that is). I guess they're gonna put he and Magnus together again with a horribly unoriginal team name.

FourFifty 12-08-2010 11:06 PM

I want to help TNA out. I've always been in favor for assisted suicide.

Purgatory 12-08-2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooTin (Post 3350335)
Lets keep this rolling...
How could TNA survive with out the money that Hogan and Bischoff are putting into the company?

What CSL said. As far as I know, they came in to change what they already have in place and make it better. They're not putting any of their own money into it, supposedly. I think SpikeTV throws them some once in awhile to assist in keeping their programming 'fresh', or whatever.

ooTin 12-08-2010 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purgatory (Post 3350371)
What CSL said. As far as I know, they came in to change what they already have in place and make it better. They're not putting any of their own money into it, supposedly. I think SpikeTV throws them some once in awhile to assist in keeping their programming 'fresh', or whatever.


They pay Spike TV for that spot. As far as Spike giving them money.. not too sure about that I will have to look into it. I'm pretty sure that Hogan is working there for next to nothing( as far as the amounts that Hogan usually gets paid) and feeds several thousand a month into TNA.

Heisenberg 12-08-2010 11:40 PM

TNA is not afraid to pull punches and mix the old with the new, I believe if they stick with whatever they feel is right, things will go their way soon. I would tell them though to get rid of the presence of that Jersey Shore gimmick, because I see my wife watches enough of that piss around me and wrestling is supposed to be MY TIME, tiger uppercut.

CSL 12-09-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW86 (Post 3350361)
Make Desmond Wolf champ!...btw where is he?

'Bump' problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooTin (Post 3350380)
I'm pretty sure that Hogan is working there for next to nothing( as far as the amounts that Hogan usually gets paid) and feeds several thousand a month into TNA.

lol. I'm the last person to lay into Hogan but the thought of him putting money into a wrestling company is hilarious. And he would probably tell you the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Dethklokface (Post 3350391)
TNA is not afraid to pull punches and mix the old with the new, I believe if they stick with whatever they feel is right, things will go their way soon.

This is one of the problems with TNA fans.

MoFo 12-09-2010 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3350359)
I think they need to admit that wrestling is fake. I don't mean come out and have Jeff Jarrett cut a promo talking about how what they do is predetermined or anything, but they should at least stop trying to convince people otherwise.



Dunno, they had Hogan go out on Reaction the other week and practically bury kayfabe and totally shit over wrasslin'.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
Well, brother, we're lightening the load around here. We're trimming the fat. We're thinning the herd. I mean, you know, it's pathetic. It's pathetic, that Dixie would let this company get in the shape it's in. It's her train of thought! Raven? Who hasn't had a damn shower or bath? Y'know, with RVD, and that whole crew out there? They meant to professional wrestling what Hulk Hogan, who sold out Shea Stadium? who put 94,000 people in the Pontiac Silverdome? who slammed a 700-pound giant? They mean to professional wrestling what Hulk Hogan means?

No wonder this company was in the shape it's in. It's time to get rid o' the trash, the garbage, the worthless piece of crap out here, and we started with Dixie Carter. Yeah, we're gettin' very real around here. We are so, real, it's unbelievable. Because, if you don't get over like I said, you're fired. If you don't draw number, if you don't entertain, if you don't put asses in seats, if you don't put the coinage in the piggy bank, you're fired. No more games. No more, "Kayfabe." "It's a work." "I've won 34 tag team belts." Who gives a damn, how many… fake belts you won!? If you don't draw money, you get fired around here. If you don't put asses in seats, you’re gone.



Just sounds like that 'worked shoot' he did on Russo at Bash at the Beach.

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2010 12:35 AM

I meant more that they should admit to themselves. Yes, wrestling is fixed. We all know that. They need to work within that realm though, as opposed to trying to toe the line of reality. It's tacky. They're acting like they're 'too cool' for wrestling, and there's definitely no such thing...especially if you're a wrestling company.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-09-2010 03:13 AM

Why should I help them? They're like a monkey, the minute I turn my back they'll start slinging shit again.

The Ravishing One 12-09-2010 06:14 AM

Get rid of Hogan and Bischoff
Keep Flair out of the ring
Move out of the Impact zone


I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.

Rammsteinmad 12-09-2010 06:37 AM

Get rid of Hulk Hogan. The guy said before he joined TNA that he wasn't there to steal the spotlight etc, but to 'help out' the new guys.

TNA has evolved around nothing BUT Hogan since he got there.

Hogan hasn't done anything for the wrestling industry that didn't benefit himself in some way in the last 20 years. The guy is the living embodiment of what is wrong is professional wrestling. He's a big cancerous mole on the industry, and I seriously can't wait for the day he dies, so I can come on here and celebrate and be the biggest prick imaginable to anyone who says 'RIP' and bullshit like that.

Rammsteinmad 12-09-2010 06:40 AM

And he still thinks run-ins/beat-downs and other drama during EVERY main event is still the in-thing. This isn't 1996, I'm sick and tired of watching every TNA main event end with a beat down or some crap which features Hogan being this ultra badass face/heel.

FUCKING DIE HOGAN!!! :foc:

Volare 12-09-2010 07:05 AM

Two step process for TNA.

1. Get a gun.
2. Point it at yourself and pull the trigger.

Rammsteinmad 12-09-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 3350775)
Two step process for TNA.

1. Get a gun.
2. Point it at Hogan and pull the trigger.

Fixed.

dingdongyo 12-09-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3350347)
Stop signing WWE's castoffs.

People didn't care about them in the WWE, they aren't going to care about them in TNA.

christian cage? r-truth?

those really are questions, i don't watch tna. but i thought they were both major champions there at some point.

MIZantine Empire 12-09-2010 09:56 AM

first off i dont mind the people from wwe going to tna. after all they need work so i dont mind them finding it. people like styles, kaz, morgan, etc have become huge stars in tna when they were jobbers/nothing/in stupid angles in WWE. i think wwe dropped the ball huge on styles, in my opinion he is the best wrestler in sports entertainment. i have thought about what would help tna alot. and in my thinking i started thinkin about the monday night wars, and how wwe did anything they could to get over wcw. here is what tna needs to do. knockout/playboy relationship. i guess the guy in me is saying that cuz i know i wouldnt mind seein velvet/madison/tara/angelina/taylor wilde (released or not)/so cal val/etc. even tho most of the wrestlers live in fla, a move would be awesome. those fans at impact are idiots, and are ruining it. i think maybe a move east (philly, new york, new jersey) would be good, seeing as how those crowds usually are hot. they need to drop russo. imo he hasnt been good anywhere and he looks like if john stamos fucked his sister who also looked like john stamos. hogan and bischoff need to go, they are terrible. and lastly dixie carter needs to really really consider banging me. the end

The Pope 12-09-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ravishing One (Post 3350762)
I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.

Heyman is overrated.


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