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Rollermacka 02-22-2011 07:03 PM

Is that it for Zack Rider?
 
After watching Zack Rider make out with William Reagal on Khali's kiss cam awhile back, is his career pretty much at its best? I remember he was getting a push in ECW, with the new look/ theme, and catchphrase. Since then, he just kinda stayed in that lower mid card spot and has been for awhile now. Do you still think he can make his way up to main event status or should he team back up with Hawkins? Neither of there careers are going anywhere at the moment and the tag division needs more help.


Side note, Whats the story/ when the fuck did they stick little girl with the Great Khali? An indian giant, a leprechaun and a 12 year old girl.... yea I think that illegal even in Vegas

Shadrick 02-22-2011 07:26 PM

It's RYDER, you fuckstick. Woo. Woo. Woo. You know it.

Nah seriously, I think its comedic fodder, but I don't think its at its best. Not yet. I think he's an entertaining guy, just needs the right person in creative to get behind him.

dhellova guy 02-22-2011 07:44 PM

Honestly, I think when he was givin that gimmick he could essentually kiss any main event push good bye.

Hes in the same boat as Santino. Make ya laugh, not gunna win anything.

ron the dial 02-22-2011 07:46 PM

lol watched him job in a superstars dark match the other week. he's not going anywhere, and he's really got nothing worth pushing anyway.

ron the dial 02-22-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhellova guy (Post 3441990)
Hes in the same boat as Santino. Make ya laugh, not gunna win anything.

not even close to the same boat. the crowd loves santino, the crowd couldn't give a fuck less about zack ryder.

DLVH84 02-22-2011 07:47 PM

It'll be a matter of time before he gets the boot.

teamXtremist 02-22-2011 07:51 PM

yeah dont see him as main event material

Gertner 02-22-2011 08:02 PM

His tag team with Primo is pretty sweet. DZP!

Razzamajazz 02-22-2011 08:15 PM

when did they make out on camera? a peck on the cheek is making out?

ron the dial 02-22-2011 08:16 PM

to all of these fat internet wrestling nerds it is :roll:

dronepool 02-22-2011 09:29 PM

I never liked him, but I probably missed his 'better' days because I started watching again in 2008.

Xerzes 02-22-2011 09:42 PM

Ryder's been great the entire time he's had this gimmick. He has everything he needs to move forward except a push.

Skippord 02-23-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapon X (Post 3441993)
not even close to the same boat. the crowd loves santino, the crowd couldn't give a fuck less about zack ryder.

but I love Zack Ryder and hate Santino

and as an internet wrestling fan demand they value my opinion over everyone else.

Dave Youell 02-23-2011 04:49 AM

Ryder FOR THE FUCKING WIN:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_ECr3n58r8w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This should be his new theme

Jura 02-23-2011 08:15 AM

I see something in Ryder. He just needs to be reinvented into something more than just a parody of a guido.

Rammsteinmad 02-23-2011 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3441967)
After watching Zack Rider make out with William Reagal on Khali's kiss cam awhile back

It was a peck on the cheek lol.

Unless I missed something.

Rollermacka 02-23-2011 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3441981)
It's RYDER, you fuckstick. Woo. Woo. Woo. You know it.

Yes, it was just a peck, it's obviously an exaggeration but that was the first time I've seen him on RAW in a long time.

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So Ho Ho Ho You Know It Jabroni!

GD 02-23-2011 12:55 PM

I kinda like his personality but his backstage segment where Edge called him a tool was redonkulous :-\

XCaliber 02-23-2011 01:01 PM

Ih he's shipped to SD he may stand a better chance of being pushed but if he is to stay on RAW he will have to become a more serious character again or go the simple route and just reunite him with Curt Hawkins.

XL 02-23-2011 01:03 PM

I like the guy but this isn't a gimmick that's gonna get a Main Event push.

I suggested pairing him with "Showtime" Percy Watson if they were planning on pushing the tag division at all. Two guys that love to party but get the job done (instead of jobbing) in the ring.

But thinking on it now...howabout Ryder starts a fued with "Ladies Man" Daniel Bryan? Ryder doesn't get what the ladies see in Bryan, especially when they could have the Z-Man instead. Cue bitterness and a fued that would give us some quality matches.

DAMN iNATOR 02-23-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapon X (Post 3441993)
not even close to the same boat. the crowd loves santino, the crowd couldn't give a fuck less about zack ryder.

http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-co...am-titles1.jpg

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/377012/7686786

"Santino and Ryder have never had anything in common" (your words, sir...first sentence in your post if you don't "get" what I'm talking about) - RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.:roll:

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2011 05:08 PM

I love Zack Ryder, and so does the WWE. He makes it so easy for them. They don't even need to try and get the guy over -- he works so hard and is so involved in his own gimmick that he does it himself. The WWE probably wishes they had more guys like Zack Ryder.

The kid can work, he's so young, and he's already older in experience than what his age implies. The WWE has let him work with some of the top stars in the company before, and his time is coming. I bet his push is random, out of the blue, and has people going from "I think Ryder needs to be pushed harder" to "This is too soon! Fuck it! I'm freaking out!" Post-WrestleMania season will be kind to Ryder, I think.

The Naitch 02-23-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3441967)
After watching Zack Rider make out with William Reagal on Khali's kiss cam awhile back, is his career pretty much at its best? I remember he was getting a push in ECW, with the new look/ theme, and catchphrase. Since then, he just kinda stayed in that lower mid card spot and has been for awhile now. Do you still think he can make his way up to main event status or should he team back up with Hawkins? Neither of there careers are going anywhere at the moment and the tag division needs more help.


Side note, Whats the story/ when the fuck did they stick little girl with the Great Khali? An indian giant, a leprechaun and a 12 year old girl.... yea I think that illegal even in Vegas

Seriously, why isn't WWE jumping on the Jersey Shore bandwagon with Zack Ryder yet? Hell, TNA is doing it, but nobody cares about TNA, but if WWE did it, it would be the next best thing since BookerDust. If he had his "Jersey Shore" stable right now, he'd be instantly over.

As for the 12 year old girl with Khali, that was the actress from "The Chaperone", Triple H's co-star. It was a one night thing to promote the movie.

Juan 02-23-2011 08:57 PM

I'm a huge Ryder mark

Schlomey 02-24-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3443087)
I'm a huge Ryder mark

ditto. :y:

ron the dial 02-24-2011 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3442868)
http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-co...am-titles1.jpg

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/377012/7686786

"Santino and Ryder have never had anything in common" (your words, sir...first sentence in your post if you don't "get" what I'm talking about) - RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.:roll:

if what i was talking about was whether they had both held tag gold and not the amount that the crowd gets behind them, you may have had a point here. but you don't. because i wasn't.

Tommy Gunn 02-25-2011 07:05 AM

I dig Zack Rider, but he's pretty much a jobber to the... well, other jobbers really. Shame!

Anybody Thrilla 02-25-2011 02:23 PM

Primo and Ryder were actually on a winning streak for a bit on Superstars. I think it was like 2 matches, but that's pretty awesome for them.

CSL 02-25-2011 07:16 PM

Robbie E is better. I do like Ryder though, seems like agood guy. Hope he can find a 'spot'.

CSL 02-25-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3442868)
http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-co...am-titles1.jpg

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/377012/7686786

"Santino and Ryder have never had anything in common" (your words, sir...first sentence in your post if you don't "get" what I'm talking about) - RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.:roll:

You are like some other specie parodying a human being. My god.

thedamndest 02-25-2011 07:43 PM

That's it for Zach Rider.

Kane Knight 02-25-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3441981)
It's RYDER, you fuckstick. Woo. Woo. Woo. You know it.

Nah seriously, I think its comedic fodder, but I don't think its at its best. Not yet. I think he's an entertaining guy, just needs the right person in creative to get behind him.

So from a kiss cam with a dude to a gay angle?

How...Progressive.

loopydate 02-25-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3444931)
Primo and Ryder were actually on a winning streak for a bit on Superstars. I think it was like 2 matches, but that's pretty awesome for them.

Yeah I thought that might have been the start of a mini tag push for them that might end with them on Mondays. Then they lost. Push over.

On that same token - why the hell has Masters beat Reks two weeks in a row?

...Superstars makes me sad sometimes.


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