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Fox 04-01-2011 10:18 AM

WM 27: A Waste of a Roster
 
So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Theo Dious 04-01-2011 10:33 AM

Kofi lost the IC title, Sir.

Evil Vito 04-01-2011 10:36 AM

<font color=goldenrod>There have been whispers of a Kofi vs. McIntyre match being added, but I doubt it.

But either way - there are a ton of people left off the card every year. Christian and Swagger figure to be integral parts of their matches - and they might be thrown into the pre-show battle royal anyway because there usually always winds up being the same amount of participants as it is number of WM, so this year 27.</font>

Xero 04-01-2011 10:36 AM

Well, Christian will be involved in a main event, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a major factor in the outcome. So I don't have a problem with him not making the card, because he's at least on the show in a relatively prominent (that's how I) role.

Ted DiBiase at this point is a lost cause. He doesn't belong on Mania, and it's because of the way they've booked him.

Same with Kidd, really. And any other Superstars-exclusive talent.

The rest are really confusing, because they definitely deserve a spot. I really don't have a problem with MITB not being on the card since it takes away from the MITB PPV (which I don't think needed to happen but that's moot), but like you said, an IC title battle royal or Championship Scramble wouldn't have hurt anything. Or even a big IC/US unification six pack challenge.

Those guys will probably be thrown into the pre-Mania battle royal. At least they'll get a pay day.

VSG 04-01-2011 10:45 AM

that's how I role

Rammsteinmad 04-01-2011 11:02 AM

I am pretty surprised that Kofi Kingston isn't on the card.

GD 04-01-2011 11:20 AM

I want Kofi Kingston :'(

Londoner 04-01-2011 11:30 AM

Knew when Kofi won the IC title recently they weren't going to do anything with him. So annoying.

Londoner 04-01-2011 11:31 AM

Also Drew should definitely be on there. :mad:

MoFo 04-01-2011 11:45 AM

- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd


- havent done anything to justify a place on the card.

Ermaximus 04-01-2011 11:45 AM

Lot of these guys won't even be around after Sunday, so what's it matter?

Nicky Fives 04-01-2011 11:48 AM

There's a reason why they hold a pre-show Battle Royal every year.....

Evil Vito 04-01-2011 12:14 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Taking a glance at the active roster, adding in anybody who isn't on the card and isn't injured or hasn't been shipped to FCW:

-Chavo Guerrero
-Chris Masters
-Curt Hawkins
-David Hart Smith
-Drew McIntyre
-Evan Bourne
-Jey Uso
-Jimmy Uso
-JTG
-Kofi Kingston
-Mark Henry
-Primo
-R-Truth
-Ted DiBiase
-The Great Khali
-Trent Barreta
-Tyler Reks
-Tyson Kidd
-William Regal
-Yoshi Tatsu
-Zack Ryder

That's 21, then you add in guys who will be on the show as managers and could be thrown into a pre-show match:

-Alex Riley
-Brodus Clay
-Christian
-Jack Swagger

Than bumps it up to 25. Figure Hornswoggle gets added in for comedy relief to make it 26. That leaves one more spot for either more comedy relief (Ricardo Rodriguez) or Johnny Curtis who won NXT and technically has a contract.

Bam. 27-man battle royal before WrestleMania 27. Everybody gets a payday.</font>

Mr. Nerfect 04-01-2011 12:15 PM

There's two ways of looking at this:

Yes, a lot of these guys could use a spot on the card. R-Truth is over, if nothing else, and pretty much everyone else mentioned has a really bright future. But then there's also keeping the "purity" of the WrestleMania card in-check. While some of these guys should really be on there, and would be with just a little more work going into the writing, maybe they will kick it into gear to work extra hard next year?

Part of me is still sorta hoping for it to come time for the opening match at WrestleMania, only for Justin Roberts to introduce it as a "Money in the Bank Ladder Match," just as a special surprise. Christian, Drew McIntyre, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, R-Truth and Ted DiBiase are all guys who could legimately compete in such a match. If you wanted two more guys, just throw in Tyson Kidd and Zack Ryder.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-01-2011 12:33 PM

I'm not Gertnering this thread because I do enjoy Daniel Bryan, but I'd rather the DB/Sheamus match was replacerd with a clusterfuck gimmick match with spots.

Splaya 04-01-2011 12:42 PM

Is it just me or since the Green Bay debacle, Truth has not been used like at all

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2011 12:46 PM

a bunch of bland albeit athletic low card guys not being used on a jam packed well booked card is a waste of a roster?

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-01-2011 12:55 PM

Scott Stanford has a better chance of making the WrestleMania PPV broadcast than those jabronies. Woo woo woo, you know it!

Droford 04-01-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3481074)
So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Out of those 7 guys it would be blatantly obvious that Christian would win if it meant a MITB Title shot. Christian's going to be involved at WM in the ME, so that should at least mean something.

I think we all pretty much knew when WWE did the MITB PPV that the MITB match at WM was out...kinda sucks but whatever.

Savio 04-01-2011 02:01 PM

Perhaps Kofi will interfere in the 8 man tag.

Gertner 04-01-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3481208)
I'm not Gertnering this thread because I do enjoy Daniel Bryan, but I'd rather the DB/Sheamus match was replacerd with a clusterfuck gimmick match with spots.

I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-01-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3481304)
I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

Doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheamus wins, but Bryan works way too well against bigger guys not to give it some time. The match where he lost the title was great, his matches with Morishima were great, etc.

I'm betting it'll open the show though.

Volare 04-01-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya (Post 3481220)
Is it just me or since the Green Bay debacle, Truth has not been used like at all

:yes:

Lock Jaw 04-01-2011 02:36 PM

Yeah, I got the distinct feeling they gave Barrett the IC title just so they wouldn't leave the IC champ off the card.

Rather than giving Kofi a match.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-01-2011 02:39 PM

Kofi having a match really doesn't make sense. I can't believe they couldn't just throw him in somewhere.

Volare 04-01-2011 04:26 PM

I wonder if they're saving Kofi for something...:shifty:

Fox 04-01-2011 04:38 PM

I guess I'm mostly just pissed that Christian doesn't have a spot on the card. I know, I know, he's probably going to "play a role" in the World Title match, but still. He should be wrestling.

One Eight Sven 04-01-2011 04:42 PM

I don't like how everyone wants to just put a bunch of mid card talent in money in the bank like it's some throwaway gimmick match. Whoever wins the match has to go into the main event picture for a while and is almost guaranteed to be champion. None of the guys left off the card deserve or are ready for that push.

FourFifty 04-01-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3481074)
So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Two points: Many people couldn't care less about R-Truth.

Secondly, the idea of a quickly thrown together money in the bank match does not make sense. Everyone who has cashed in the briefcase has won their title. Just taking "the scraps" that were not booked for WrestleMania and putting them in a match with that kind of gravity behind it doesn't strike me as a good idea.

Eklipse 04-01-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3481304)
I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

I have no idea why people like him, to be honest. He's so...average...

Lock Jaw 04-01-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3481470)
I guess I'm mostly just pissed that Christian doesn't have a spot on the card. I know, I know, he's probably going to "play a role" in the World Title match, but still. He should be wrestling.

As TPWW's #2 Peep, I must say that I prefer Christian where he is (in Edge's corner) rather than having him getting stuffed into a random match in the last minute (like an eight-man tag against The Corre).

Ermaximus 04-01-2011 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3481517)
As TPWW's #2 Peep, I must say that I prefer Christian where he is (in Edge's corner) rather than having him getting stuffed into a random match in the last minute (like an eight-man tag against The Corre).

As TPWW's #3 peep, I can agree with this. He's getting much better exposure where he is.

The MAC 04-01-2011 05:56 PM

lots of future TNA talent mentioned here.

Emperor Smeat 04-01-2011 06:05 PM

As long as there is still the Battle Royale at Wrestelmania, most of the non-used people will still have a shot at being on the show.

Christian and Swagger are still involved in other matches so they will be on the show and Nexus could still do a sneak attack to Orton during Mania to help Punk before his match.

Sheamus and Daniel Bryan almost didn't make it to Wrestlemania if it wasn't for the late feud those two got put into last few weeks.

Jordan 04-01-2011 10:27 PM

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

Like any of these relative nobodies is going to pull anyone to buy the card that isn't already planning on it. SO MANY of you need to understand WWE doesn't give a fuck about what you want, they want the people who pay, do we pay? Generally no, generally IWC doesn't pay for shit, so why would the give a fuck what you want?

I'm so sick of people's ignorant bitching on here, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT EVAN BOURNE OR TED DIABIASE? How much money did they draw to deserve a spot on Wrestlemania? Were they responsible for keeping and improving ratings? NO The guys on the fucking card were.

#1-norm-fan 04-01-2011 11:50 PM

I'd be more inclinedto buy it with a Money in the Bank match. In fact, that would be the final selling point to me.

As it stands, I'm not quite feeling the card. It feels like there's just a gaping hole that MITB would have filled.

Jordan 04-01-2011 11:52 PM

I do wish there was Money in the Bank, but I also think that having the Corre on is important, and you know the more matches they add the shittier they will all become.

#1-norm-fan 04-01-2011 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3481950)
I do wish there was Money in the Bank, but I also think that having the Corre on is important, and you know the more matches they add the shittier they will all become.

Not necessarily. And there aren't looking to be many 5 star classics on the card anyway.

Aguakate 04-01-2011 11:59 PM

So it's not a 3way for the WHC?

I'm lost.

Jordan 04-02-2011 12:04 AM

No that was a Ryan Clark


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