Smackdown is boring.
 

Dark_Kane, shut up already.

Well obiously reading spoilers will make a show boring. Being suprised is half the fun. Just don't read the spoilers.

And the wrestling on Smackdown has been great as of late.

I agree.

i'll have to agree with Head. The wrestling has been pretty good. The match between Benoit and Lesnar a couple of weeks ago was great. Shannon Moore being wasted every week is cool. I think Smackdowns not doing too badly.

I went through a long phase where I didn't read spoilers and I have to say I liked the show a lot better. I've been reading them lately though due to boredom on Tuesday and Wednsday. I also like to know what's going on cause I turn the channel when Vince or somebody comes on TV.

Did anyone see the Smackdown where Dark_Kane joined the "Vince McMahon: Kiss My Ass Club"... I missed that one but it had to happen some time.

I have to wait 2 weeks before I see what happens. I'm two weeks behind. The Smackdown I saw tuesday night was where Benoit faced cena then lesnar and Shannon had to face Big Show

Holy shit... where do you live?

New Zealand

hahaha, this whole time I we're talking about the quality of Smackdown... I forgot it's on right now. Brock's talking in the ring. Smell the ratings!

i read spoilers because it doesnt make much difference to me. Anything I read here to me are spoilers, sort of.

ok, the cat and vince thing was FUNNY, was worth watching:rofl:

I dunno, I like Heyman on TV for sure. But it's like, if it's not Lesnar, Angle, Benoit, or Cena the show normally isn't worth watching at the moment.

EDIT: And Rey, can't forget Rey.

<font color=8307ff><b>I never read the spoilers, so then Smackdown will still have some surprises. :y:</font></b>

Yeah Smackdown really wasn't good at all tonight. Benoit wrestling Pulumbo, Holly in the main event., Cena not wrestling, WTF. The tag match was good though.

I will partially agree with that. I mean I do totally feel that the other guys need something too. Kanyon was one of my favorites in WCW, he can really work a match. Rhyno and O'haire have both proved that they can put on big matches, given the oppurtunity.

I think RAW just has the better over all show right now. I think the only time I was bored on RAW this week was Rico vs John Henderich*sp. Evolution, HBK, RVD, Booker T, Jericho, Matt Hardy. And the list goes on for RAW superstars that I could tune in just to see them.Some main even, some mid carders. I think that is where RAW is going right, they are starting to get in a nice balance. Now if only they could keep the belt OFF the cancer of HHH.

I still think RAW is a bit too disorganized. Smackdown always seems to have a solid direction that it's headed toward, but on RAW, sometimes it seems like the writers are just confused. Sure, it'll have a great show, but the following week might just be a collection of matches rather than the furthering of storylines.

Plus the wrestling is better. :)

Angle, Lesnar, Benoit, and Eddie are better than everyone on RAW except maybe JEricho, who would fit in somehwere in the middle of that list.

Heyman is a good GM, I hope they keep him on.

The problem I have with SD is that the rest of the guys that they choose to focus on all suck. Guys like APA the hosses from Team Lesnar, Holly, The F'N Cat. If they were to take up that time with some more CWs, and some more tag team wrestling it would blow RAW totally out of the water.

I think SD has fallen off since the summer, but RAW has been good the past few weeks in large part because they are stacking that show with guys like Rock and Foley, which SD doesn't get.

For me the bottom line is wrestling, and even though RAW has been a lot better recently they still can hold a candle to SD when it comes to ring work. I mean when was the last match on RAW that was as good as Benoit-Lesnar, HBK-Jericho, maybe, and thats it. So I'll still give the nod to SD, but its closer now then it was. At the same time, with the right booking I can see SD being a far better show than if RAW had the right booking.

Lesnar is one of the worst champions ever. He has average wrestling skills, no ring presence, no charisma and shit mic skills. When you compare him to some of the champions over the last few years you can see how bad he is. HHH, The Rock, Austin, Michaels, Undertaker, Kane, Hogan etc all have something that Lesnar doesn't have, and there are far more talented people who aren't getting pushed.
And I think that Heymans speech was pathetic, as Lesnar isn't 1/10 as good as Samartino,Austin or Hogan.

:wtf:
<font color=#33ffff>What the hell are you talking about? No ring presence, have you SEEN they guy?!!</font>

He just looks generic. A big guy in trunks.

<font color=#33ffff>Thats my only problems with Brock. His mic skills absolutly SUCK, and I have noticed him getting lazy recently. But who can blame him when he gets saddled with guys like Morgan, Train, Show and Holly?
He should be wrestling guys like Cena, Benoit, and (when he returns) Angle, then he'd be back to looking like a great champion.</font>

<font color=#33ffff>I see you point, i'm not a massive Lesnar fan either, but I like his style, and the guy looks like a champ. The match he had with Benoit a few weeks back was brilliant, and his series with Kurt Angle was off the charts.
So, yeah, dunno what point i'm trying to make here....:$ </font>

IMO, Lesnar is a lot worse than almost every champion in recent years. Angle, Rock, Austin, Kane, HHH, Undertaker, Michaels, Foley all had decent wrestling skills, charisma, personality, intersting characters and good mic skills. Lesnar is ok in the ring but isnt a patch on the above mentioned champs of the past.

It depends what we're talking about. Lesnar isn't as charasmatic as Angle, Rock, Austin and others, but keep in mind those guys were in the business a lot longer than Lesnar. I think he has made strides even since the summer in terms of connecting with the fans in promos. So in another year or so, I think he'll be among the better champions in WWE history.

In terms of ring work I think Lesnar is already among the best in the WWE. You look at the stuff he's done in the ring with good workers, but also with a guy like Big Show, and its clear he can work in the ring like few other main eventers especially considering his size.

BTW, I dont get how Kane makes your list of top champs, I mean Kane? The guy who used to wear a red mask? That guy? Seriously?

<font color=#33ffff>How the **** can you call Kane a better champion than Brock Lesnar?!!? Kane held the belt for what, 24hours?</font>

I didn't mean Kane was one of my fave champs, just I think that he is better than Lesnar.
I dont hate Lesnar, But I do think he is green and shouldn't be as high up as he is when people like jericho, benoit, booker T, RVD, Orton ,Cena etc all will have to work for years to get a push like him

:lol: your so true Lesnar is a great wrestler and has a great ring presence :y: you so rule :kiss: :p

Lesnar is one of the main reasons I watch Smackdown. I started watching again after he turned heel because he's a great draw and very talented in the ring. Along with Angle, Benoit, Guerrero, Cena, Mysterio, Big Show, etc. It'd be nice to see Kane go to Smackdown and feud with the Undertaker the way he started at Survivor Series.

RAW doesn't nearly offer as much.

Smack down allright it is't boring