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XL 06-24-2011 09:22 PM

Best & Worst #2: United States Champion [RESULTS POSTED]
 
Steve Austin enters the B&W Hall of Fame as 'Best WWF/E World Champion' just as Jeff Hardy and Bob Backlund enter the B&W Hall of Shame as the 'Worst' in that category.

Up for your deliberation this time is the United States Championship.

We'll consider it's existence in WCW and WWE as the same lineage/belt. So, in your estimation, using whatever criteria you choose to, who was the very Best and very Worst to hold the US Title?

VSG 06-24-2011 09:29 PM

Best: Chris Benoit
Worst: Orlando Jordan

I mean, c'mon:

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CSL 06-24-2011 09:34 PM

Best WWE 'Era': MVP
Best ever: Rick Rude

Worst: David Flair

Triple Naitch 06-24-2011 09:36 PM

Best: MVP
Worst: Finlay

Juan 06-24-2011 09:36 PM

I loved the Bret Hart/Sting feud for the US title.

Triple Naitch 06-24-2011 09:40 PM

I really wanted to put DDP, but I can't recall anything significant from his runs.

Nicky Fives 06-24-2011 09:40 PM

Best: Chris Benoit
Worst: Orlando Jordan

Juan 06-24-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3562169)
I really wanted to put DDP, but I can't recall anything significant from his runs.

His feud with Raven was pretty awesome

Shisen Kopf 06-24-2011 10:13 PM

Best: Sting
Worst:Jim Duggan

XL 06-24-2011 10:20 PM

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Graveler 06-24-2011 10:21 PM

Best: Shelton Benjamin
Worst: Orlando Jordan

Phenomenal 1 06-24-2011 10:22 PM

Best: Rick Rude
Worst: Jim Duggan

XL 06-24-2011 10:22 PM

Courtesy of Lock Jaw in the 100k Thread. (Thought I'd already posted it tbh)

Droford 06-24-2011 10:23 PM

Best - Sting
Worst - David Flair

you really cant argue about David Flair being the worst..he sucked as a wrestler, he didn't win the belt (Ric "gave" him the belt) and I think he only successfully defended it once but he needed the Horsemen's help to do that.

Phenomenal 1 06-24-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3562239)
Best - Sting
Worst - David Flair

you really cant argue about David Flair being the worst..he sucked as a wrestler, he didn't win the belt (Ric "gave" him the belt) and I think he only successfully defended it once but he needed the Horsemen's help to do that.

Actually I would argue that to point out Jim Duggan was no better when he won the title in 40 seconds in a squash over Austin. Austin was a good mid card talent at the time and WCW just buried him with a guy who was already 10 years past his prime. David Flair was a joke as well but WCW dropped the ball burying Austin like that. Something like that sticks out in my opinion more than David Flair who no one really remembers being US champion more than Austin getting buried by Bischoff and WCW management. Just a food for thought here.

Theo Dious 06-24-2011 10:44 PM

Best: Arn Anderson
Worst: Daniel Bryan

BizarroKing 06-24-2011 10:45 PM

Best: Tie between Benoit and Kofi (the latter was defending it it fatal 4 ways, triple threat, and 6 way matches during his 1st run)
Worst: Rick Steiner (don't even remember that reign since it was near WCW's death and i'm sure it was pointless)

Droford 06-24-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruff Ryder (Post 3562258)
Actually I would argue that to point out Jim Duggan was no better when he won the title in 40 seconds in a squash over Austin. Austin was a good mid card talent at the time and WCW just buried him with a guy who was already 10 years past his prime. David Flair was a joke as well but WCW dropped the ball burying Austin like that. Something like that sticks out in my opinion more than David Flair who no one really remembers being US champion more than Austin getting buried by Bischoff and WCW management. Just a food for thought here.

At least Duggan was an established wrestler and even if it was a sqaush he did win the belt. The only reason David Flair had it is because his father was Ric Flair and they didnt even have him win the belt in a match.

Phenomenal 1 06-24-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3562296)
At least Duggan was an established wrestler and even if it was a sqaush he did win the belt. The only reason David Flair had it is because his father was Ric Flair and they didnt even have him win the belt in a match.

Never said your point was invalid. Just retorted with a thought against it. Even pos repped you for it. Flair did suck but people are less likely to remember Jim than Duggan. But kudos to you David Flair is up there as top 5 for worst US champ ever.

Jordan 06-24-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3562279)
Best: Tie between Benoit and Kofi (the latter was defending it it fatal 4 ways, triple threat, and 6 way matches during his 1st run)
Worst: Rick Steiner (don't even remember that reign since it was near WCW's death and i'm sure it was pointless)

That was reign was good use of Rick Steiner actually, he held the title well over a year combined I bet.

Best - Lex Luger, he brought the title to heights it really never had been or got to again. To my memory he was also elevated via the title, they made the title important which made him important. In his prime he was the perfect US Champion.

Honorable mentions Austin, Raven, and Chris Benoit.

Worst - this is hard because there are so many forgettable holders, I'm gonna go with.... hmmm....

David Flair.... I can't remember anyone else worse.

Aguakate 06-24-2011 11:57 PM

Best: Rick Rude

Worst: Goldberg

TheChairman 06-25-2011 12:34 AM

Best = Lex Luger

Worst = Goldberg

Jordan 06-25-2011 12:37 AM

How is Goldberg the worst? That was the build of one of the greatest wrestling characters of all time.

Aguakate 06-25-2011 12:41 AM

...they just gave him the strap while he continued to build his streak...they actually devalued the title.

Seth82 06-25-2011 01:01 AM

Best: Blackjack Mulligan

Worst: One Man Gang

The Genius 06-25-2011 01:27 AM

best : sting
worst : steve mongo mcmichael

Aguakate 06-25-2011 01:32 AM

LOL Steve "Mongo" McMichael...hadn't heard of him in years...

Wolfpack423 06-25-2011 01:44 AM

If WCW US title reigns are included:

Best: Diamond Dallas Page-absolutely loved this reign. All the defenses were great and one of the best parts of WCW at the time.
Worst: David Flair

If WWE reigns are only being considered
Best: Chris Benoit
Worst: R-Truth

Aguakate 06-25-2011 01:48 AM

There was a point where the US Title in WCW was what the Intercontinental Title was in the WWF, the belt they'd give guys who were on the rise, to see if they were World Champion material...

The Naitch 06-25-2011 01:52 AM

WWE Era

Best: John Cena / Carlito
Worst: Sheamus (WTF)

Joesgonnakillyou 06-25-2011 08:00 AM

Best: Rick Rude
Worst: Orlando Jordan

Joesgonnakillyou 06-25-2011 08:04 AM

It's an odd question because my least favourite reign was Raven's because he deserved better, Orlando Jordan was the worst Champion, but he lost it in an entertaining way.

Gertner 06-25-2011 10:14 AM

Best: Raven
Worst: Daniel Bryan. Wow, I even got bored typing his name.

big stank 06-25-2011 10:15 AM

best:sting
worse: john cena

JimmyMess 06-25-2011 10:22 AM

best: Sting or BIG POPPA PUMP
worst: Lashley

LK 06-25-2011 11:21 AM

Best: Benoit
Worst: Miz

Wolfpack423 06-25-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LK (Post 3562545)
Best: Benoit
Worst: Miz

I wasn't a fan of Miz's reign either. I was going to put that but then I remembered R-Truth's meaningless reign.

RiX1024 06-25-2011 12:03 PM

Best: Rick Rude

Worst: OJ

MoFo 06-25-2011 05:33 PM

Best - Who betta than Kanyon?
Worst - Miz (barely even defended it, was just a prop)

Emperor Smeat 06-25-2011 09:58 PM

Best - The Miz.
Loved how much he developed and momentum he gained during his reign which ended up setting up his future WWE championship reign and main event status.

Worst - Raven's 1 day reign.
WCW almost completely mis-managed his entire time with the company and instead of using the victory over DDP as a launch point, he lost it the next day to Goldberg who was more focused on chasing the heavyweight title than being a US champion. He never went back competing in the division due to be occupied in feuds against his flock and other lower tier stuff during the last year in the company.


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