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Supreme Olajuwon 07-25-2011 01:07 PM

How many guys have become legit main event faces without first being a super popular heel?
 
Talking last 15 years or so. Obviously the early 90s had different rules about getting over.

Can think of Jeff Hardy and Rey Rey. Any others?

CSL 07-25-2011 01:13 PM

Batista maybe, he was heel before his slow burn turn and push but not "super popular", he really started getting over/becoming popular once they'd started planting the seeds. Had the rub from super popular heels Triple H and Orton which helped though.

Rammsteinmad 07-25-2011 01:21 PM

Bret Hart?

CSL 07-25-2011 01:22 PM

Sting

Supreme Olajuwon 07-25-2011 01:26 PM

I dunno about Batista. He got a massive pop when he won the Rumble.

Ultra Mantis 07-25-2011 01:26 PM

Goldberg

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CSL 07-25-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3587208)
I dunno about Batista. He got a massive pop when he won the Rumble.

Outside of a run in here and there to keep up the faction pretence, he was acting and being booked like a face for some time before that.

Kal-El 07-25-2011 04:12 PM

Not counting his WCW run . . . Jericho, he was pretty much always a fan favorite.

Gertner 07-25-2011 04:49 PM

Hogan. His heel run with the WWF when he started out didn't amount to much.

dhellova guy 07-25-2011 04:50 PM

Kofi hasn't worked as a heel yet, and he started to get a push (although short lived).

CM Punk was a face all the way up to his first championship (although he was a heel in other organizations). Even when he was with the New Breed on WWECW he was still a face.

Thats all I can think of.

Emperor Smeat 07-25-2011 05:15 PM

Bobby Lashley

Xero 07-25-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhellova guy (Post 3587397)
Kofi hasn't worked as a heel yet, and he started to get a push (although short lived).

CM Punk was a face all the way up to his first championship (although he was a heel in other organizations). Even when he was with the New Breed on WWECW he was still a face.

Thats all I can think of.

I don't feel like Punk was a legit main eventer at that time, though. It's about on par with Swagger being a "legit main eventer".

RiX1024 07-25-2011 06:46 PM

Only ones i can think of is Ultimate Warrior and Goldberg.

XL 07-25-2011 07:59 PM

Would we say Cena?

I mean he had a fued with Lesnar as a heel but soon went back to midcard. He was never in a "top spot" as a heel before he turned, won the US Title at Mania 20 before up to the ME as a face.

CSL 07-25-2011 08:05 PM

he was red hot right before they turned him, he was getting face reactions/was over like rover and I assume was turned because of it. I seem to remember "the internet" being quite the fan also. How times change.

Fox 07-25-2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-El (Post 3587381)
Not counting his WCW run . . . Jericho, he was pretty much always a fan favorite.

Jericho was a heel for probably his first 2-3 months in the company, and he never became a "legit main event face" until maybe 2006/07. And prior to that, he did several runs as a super popular heel.

Fox 07-25-2011 11:03 PM

- Goldberg (definitely, no question about it)

- Rob Van Dam (at least in the WWE - he came in as part of a heel faction in the Alliance, but he never DID anything that was really very heelish and within a couple of weeks was majorly over as a face... never played a heel in the WWE.)

- Rey Mysterio (as discussed previously)

- Bobby Lashley is arguable... he only really main evented one PPV with Cena and I don't think he was with the company long enough to be considered a "legit" main event face.

- Jeff Hardy (was a tweener for a very short amount of time in 2002 and when he debuted, but other than that, never played a heel - certainly not a "super popular" heel)

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2011 11:00 AM

I think Bobby Lashley and Jeff Hardy are both good cases. Lashley was being pushed as Superman. If he didn't leave the company, he'd have been treated as a top star.

Aguakate 07-27-2011 12:29 PM

Ultimate Warrior?

Anybody Thrilla 07-27-2011 06:53 PM

Jericho and Cena are two terrible answers to this thread. Jericho would have never have even been popular without his WCW heel run, AND he was a super popular heel when he debuted in the WWF. Basic Thuganomics put Cena on the map.


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