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Old 07-25-2011, 01:07 PM   #1
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How many guys have become legit main event faces without first being a super popular heel?
Talking last 15 years or so. Obviously the early 90s had different rules about getting over.

Can think of Jeff Hardy and Rey Rey. Any others?


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Old 07-25-2011, 01:13 PM   #2
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Batista maybe, he was heel before his slow burn turn and push but not "super popular", he really started getting over/becoming popular once they'd started planting the seeds. Had the rub from super popular heels Triple H and Orton which helped though.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:21 PM   #3
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:22 PM   #4
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:26 PM   #5
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I dunno about Batista. He got a massive pop when he won the Rumble.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:26 PM   #6
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:36 PM   #7
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:39 PM   #8
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I dunno about Batista. He got a massive pop when he won the Rumble.
Outside of a run in here and there to keep up the faction pretence, he was acting and being booked like a face for some time before that.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:12 PM   #9
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Kal-El does not have that much rep yet (10+)
Not counting his WCW run . . . Jericho, he was pretty much always a fan favorite.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:49 PM   #10
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Hogan. His heel run with the WWF when he started out didn't amount to much.
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Kofi hasn't worked as a heel yet, and he started to get a push (although short lived).

CM Punk was a face all the way up to his first championship (although he was a heel in other organizations). Even when he was with the New Breed on WWECW he was still a face.

Thats all I can think of.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:15 PM   #12
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:22 PM   #13
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Kofi hasn't worked as a heel yet, and he started to get a push (although short lived).

CM Punk was a face all the way up to his first championship (although he was a heel in other organizations). Even when he was with the New Breed on WWECW he was still a face.

Thats all I can think of.
I don't feel like Punk was a legit main eventer at that time, though. It's about on par with Swagger being a "legit main eventer".
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Only ones i can think of is Ultimate Warrior and Goldberg.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:59 PM   #15
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Would we say Cena?

I mean he had a fued with Lesnar as a heel but soon went back to midcard. He was never in a "top spot" as a heel before he turned, won the US Title at Mania 20 before up to the ME as a face.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:05 PM   #16
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he was red hot right before they turned him, he was getting face reactions/was over like rover and I assume was turned because of it. I seem to remember "the internet" being quite the fan also. How times change.
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Not counting his WCW run . . . Jericho, he was pretty much always a fan favorite.
Jericho was a heel for probably his first 2-3 months in the company, and he never became a "legit main event face" until maybe 2006/07. And prior to that, he did several runs as a super popular heel.
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- Goldberg (definitely, no question about it)

- Rob Van Dam (at least in the WWE - he came in as part of a heel faction in the Alliance, but he never DID anything that was really very heelish and within a couple of weeks was majorly over as a face... never played a heel in the WWE.)

- Rey Mysterio (as discussed previously)

- Bobby Lashley is arguable... he only really main evented one PPV with Cena and I don't think he was with the company long enough to be considered a "legit" main event face.

- Jeff Hardy (was a tweener for a very short amount of time in 2002 and when he debuted, but other than that, never played a heel - certainly not a "super popular" heel)
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I think Bobby Lashley and Jeff Hardy are both good cases. Lashley was being pushed as Superman. If he didn't leave the company, he'd have been treated as a top star.
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Jericho and Cena are two terrible answers to this thread. Jericho would have never have even been popular without his WCW heel run, AND he was a super popular heel when he debuted in the WWF. Basic Thuganomics put Cena on the map.
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