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Savio 01-26-2012 06:07 PM

I hope THQ folds
 
They continue to make there games worse and worse every year. Smack Down vs Raw really sucks now compared to HCTP/SYM. They started making the Saints Row series worse as well.

Emperor Smeat 01-26-2012 06:15 PM

They already announced they are dropping all development and support for "casual" games and just focusing on "hardcore" game.

The problem is that leaves them just a few series to work with and even less once the UFC, Warhammer, and WWE licenses are removed. It also means if any of the remaining series pulls a "Red Faction" then they are screwed.

There was even some internal memos leaked that show a huge rift developing between management blaming everyone else (Wii, uDraw, casuals, licenses, etc) while others are blaming management for the stock dropping from $30 years ago to just 70 cents right now.

Kane Knight 01-26-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3746550)
They started making the Saints Row series worse as well.

But you pissed and moaned about the prior games.

Besides, it's not the SVR series anymore. It's WWE (year name). :shifty:

James Diesel 01-26-2012 10:57 PM

They'll crumble and about 10 more companies will form from former employees. Circle of life

D Mac 01-27-2012 01:05 AM

Watch EA Sports get the WWE license and destroy it all to hell.

Destor 01-27-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by D Mac (Post 3746930)
Watch EA Sports get the WWE license and destroy it all to hell.

couldnt be worse

Juan 01-27-2012 01:13 AM

Didn't EA release that Def Jam game with the old AKI/No Mercy engine?

Destor 01-27-2012 01:19 AM

fight for new york was aweomse

Juan 01-27-2012 01:21 AM

If EA could somehow bring AKI back into the picture, I'd be all for EA WWE games.

As it is, I haven't played a WWE video game since Here Comes the Pain.

Tommy Gunn 01-27-2012 02:44 AM

WWE 12 will likely be my last, despite being more fluid and some minor improvements, Universe mode still isn't finished and they've sacrificed pace for a more arcade-like experience. Still pisses me off that when you throw someone off a HIAC, if another opponent taps them with their shoe they jump right up again. The directional move addition from SvR 2011 helped make it more interesting, but essentially THQ advertised WWE 12 as a new game engine when it was SVR with new camera angles, breakable grapples and different button mapping.

Captain of Fun 01-27-2012 03:05 AM

Would love for spike to get the WWE license. A WWE game with an improved King of Colosseum engine would be absolutely incredible.

Not a chance in hell though.

Kane Knight 01-27-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3746934)
Didn't EA release that Def Jam game with the old AKI/No Mercy engine?

And all the subsequent games, the last of which basically burned the franchise to the ground and salted the earth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 3746963)
WWE 12 will likely be my last, despite being more fluid and some minor improvements, Universe mode still isn't finished and they've sacrificed pace for a more arcade-like experience. Still pisses me off that when you throw someone off a HIAC, if another opponent taps them with their shoe they jump right up again. The directional move addition from SvR 2011 helped make it more interesting, but essentially THQ advertised WWE 12 as a new game engine when it was SVR with new camera angles, breakable grapples and different button mapping.

Wait, WWE 12 was MORE arcadey?

El Capitano Gatisto 01-27-2012 08:16 AM

THQ used to be synonymous back when I was a little lad for really terribly bad games. I always found that a bit funny.

Kane Knight 01-27-2012 08:50 AM

"Used to be?"

Savio 01-28-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3746725)
But you pissed and moaned about the prior games.

I like SR3 but i miss hitting people with fire hydrants and trash cans. Not to mention mixing shirts and coats. It seems like THQ will add things to a game but take things away at the same time.

Kane Knight 01-28-2012 08:23 AM

Oy vey.

D Mac 01-28-2012 03:48 PM

I'm quite enjoying WWE 12.

Kane Knight 01-28-2012 04:05 PM

I hear varied things about it.

Penner 01-28-2012 04:36 PM

Why is it so good? I played it for 15 minutes and hated it but it got a 9.0 on IGN

Savio 01-28-2012 08:19 PM

I played it on Wii and thought could not just get into it because it was on the Wii

Fryza 01-28-2012 08:42 PM

Instead of folding, and having a bunch of people losing their job, I'd like to see them make games. And then make them well. Good voice-acting, decent (at worst) story, great gameplay, etc etc.

You know, I'd rather see that, then just the company going under. Especially since they're only about an hour away from where I live.

Kane Knight 01-28-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryza (Post 3748242)
Instead of folding, and having a bunch of people losing their job, I'd like to see them make games. And then make them well. Good voice-acting, decent (at worst) story, great gameplay, etc etc.

You know, I'd rather see that, then just the company going under. Especially since they're only about an hour away from where I live.

Well, they've laid off a fuckton of people now...

Fryza 01-28-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3748257)
Well, they've laid off a fuckton of people now...

Yeah, and it sucks. They released a TON of bad games, or games that just needed to be developed more.

Sigh.

Captain of Fun 01-29-2012 08:10 AM

The LJN of the modern age.

Kane Knight 01-29-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fryza (Post 3748335)
Yeah, and it sucks. They released a TON of bad games, or games that just needed to be developed more.

Sigh.

Mostly, they released a ton of bad games.

Although they also had the brilliant idea for UDraw.

Kane Knight 01-29-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain of Fun (Post 3748464)
The LJN of the modern age.

LJN + DLC = THQ.

Yeah, sounds about right.

The Rogerer 01-29-2012 08:46 AM

THQ don't make the WWE games. Yukes makes them and THQ publish them. THQ published the N64 AKI games. 13 years on and still no-one understands it. Knowing anything about game studios seems to be a taboo. The people they laid off where the Australian studios that made a load of Spongebob and other tie in games.

The irony is the game that THQ make internally are pretty good.

Kane Knight 01-29-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 3748475)
13 years on and still no-one understands it.

:lol:

Yes, rog, you are a special snowflake.

The Rogerer 01-29-2012 11:53 AM

If a studio closes in Australia, does it make a sound (in a different company in Japan)?

Funky Fly 01-29-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 3748475)
THQ don't make the WWE games. Yukes makes them and THQ publish them. THQ published the N64 AKI games. 13 years on and still no-one understands it. Knowing anything about game studios seems to be a taboo. The people they laid off where the Australian studios that made a load of Spongebob and other tie in games.

The irony is the game that THQ make internally are pretty good.

They're also terrible publishers anyway. Far too many of their games come out unpolished because they care more about holiday sales deadlines than quality products. They, along with EA, lead the charge with this Online Pass bullshit. Their developers may make the games, but the publishers set the development cycle and its deadlines. That is the sole reason WWE games come out annually with minor changes instead of giving the dev team more time to make real progress between each game.

PS: They killed their own top franchise because they're not all that great as developers.

Kane Knight 01-29-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 3748528)
If a studio closes in Australia, does it make a sound (in a different company in Japan)?

Trick question. Nobody cares about Australia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3748531)
They're also terrible publishers anyway. Far too many of their games come out unpolished because they care more about holiday sales deadlines than quality products. They, along with EA, lead the charge with this Online Pass bullshit. Their developers may make the games, but the publishers set the development cycle and its deadlines. That is the sole reason WWE games come out annually with minor changes instead of giving the dev team more time to make real progress between each game.

PS: They killed their own top franchise because they're not all that great as developers.

But they didn't MAKE the GAMES. Surely you don't think they have an impact on the developers, despite past occurrences.

The Rogerer 01-29-2012 01:25 PM

Yukes are surely having a laugh, winning the contract for that long. It's not as if they don't know they're releasing a game on a yearly basis. One of the big concerns in the Rajah thread when WWE 12 was coming out was "Can they make the belts bigger" and "Can the car come down the ramp during an entrance", truly challenging achievements after about 12 (is it twelve) releases of the same game, your programmers might have a bit of spare time to add in whatever features that people feel are missing.

DAMN iNATOR 01-29-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 3748596)
Yukes are surely having a laugh, winning the contract for that long. It's not as if they don't know they're releasing a game on a yearly basis. One of the big concerns in the Rajah thread when WWE 12 was coming out was "Can they make the belts bigger" and "Can the car come down the ramp during an entrance", truly challenging achievements after about 12 (is it twelve) releases of the same game, your programmers might have a bit of spare time to add in whatever features that people feel are missing.

Nope. 13.

  1. WWF SmackDown!
  2. WWF SmackDown! 2: Know Your Role
  3. WWF SmackDown!: Just Bring It
  4. WWE SmackDown!: Shut Your Mouth
  5. WWE SmackDown!: Here Comes The Pain
  6. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW
  7. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006
  8. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007
  9. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008
  10. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2009
  11. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010
  12. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2011
  13. WWE '12
:p

Kane Knight 01-29-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 3748596)
your programmers might have a bit of spare time to add in whatever features that people feel are missing.

:rofl:

Destor 01-30-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3748649)
Nope. 13.

  1. WWF SmackDown!
  2. WWF SmackDown! 2: Know Your Role
  3. WWF SmackDown!: Just Bring It
  4. WWE SmackDown!: Shut Your Mouth
  5. WWE SmackDown!: Here Comes The Pain
  6. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW
  7. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006
  8. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007
  9. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008
  10. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2009
  11. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010
  12. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2011
  13. WWE '12
:p

+wwe RAW/WWE RAW 2/Wrestle Mania X-8, 19, Day of Reckoning, and DoR2. DoR1&2 used very similar (though imo superior) gameplay. Like a hybrid of No Mercy and the SD! series of the time.

Kane Knight 01-30-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 3749608)
+wwe RAW/WWE RAW 2/Wrestle Mania X-8, 19, Day of Reckoning, and DoR2. DoR1&2 used very similar (though imo superior) gameplay. Like a hybrid of No Mercy and the SD! series of the time.

All the DoR series needed was more features to make it the best wrestling series, period.

Funky Fly 01-30-2012 10:34 AM

It'd be pretty easy to do too, since most of what the engine needs is polish and an expanded moveset. The rest would be standard shit: bumped up graphics, current roster, current match types, online suite, updated customization. Maybe throw some crazy shit in there like a 6 sided ring stage or some thing, just to troll TNA or something.

whiteyford 01-30-2012 10:53 AM

Going the UFC route and releasing a game every two years would be ideal,but like has already been said, it wont happen while it still makes a profit. I'm sure they pretty much start the next game in the series as soon as the last ones released.

Kane Knight 01-30-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3749868)
It'd be pretty easy to do too, since most of what the engine needs is polish and an expanded moveset. The rest would be standard shit: bumped up graphics, current roster, current match types, online suite, updated customization. Maybe throw some crazy shit in there like a 6 sided ring stage or some thing, just to troll TNA or something.

Fixing the multiplayer physics would be nice, too, but yeah, you got the basics. Plus, trolling TNA would be awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 3749879)
Going the UFC route and releasing a game every two years would be ideal,but like has already been said, it wont happen while it still makes a profit. I'm sure they pretty much start the next game in the series as soon as the last ones released.

It doesn't hurt the fans are clamoring for it. Long as there are minimal improvements and roster updates....

Also, it's fucking ridiculous that it took us to 2011 to stop selling games using the PS2 era build.

whiteyford 01-30-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3749892)
It doesn't hurt the fans are clamoring for it. Long as there are minimal improvements and roster updates....

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