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Marc the Smark 05-06-2004 11:48 PM

John "Bradshaw" Layfield
 
What do you think of this guy? I'll post my thoughts later, when I'm not so frickin' tired.

Heyman 05-06-2004 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott
What do you think of this guy? I'll post my thoughts later, when I'm not so frickin' tired.

It's a decent gimmick, but he shouldn't be anywhere NEAR the main-events. Ever. He should just be used to put over up-and-coming faces.

Amaroqwolf 05-06-2004 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyman
It's a decent gimmick, but he shouldn't be anywhere NEAR the main-events. Ever. He should just be used to put over up-and-coming faces.

I agree with that, He's not a decent enough wrestler to be in a Main-Event Situation. He's good for putting over Up and comers.

MVP 05-07-2004 12:01 AM

Great gimmick wasted on lackluster talent.

The CyNick 05-07-2004 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MVP
Great gimmick wasted on lackluster talent.

Yeah thats the way I see it.

They've done a good job getting him over, but its hard to get past that its Bradshaw. Who knows maybe they'll surprise everyone and tear it down at Judgment Day.

Marc the Smark 05-07-2004 12:36 AM

Does anyone think he'll beat Eddie at the ppv?

Longshot 05-07-2004 12:39 AM

I prefer the APA Bradshaw who loved to fight.

Corkscrewed 05-07-2004 12:56 AM

Belongs in the upper mid-card and should go there after Eddie beats him. He's a great character, but his wrestling skills are subpar, which is his major flaw. I actually think the gimmick itself is very good, though.

M-A-G 05-07-2004 12:56 AM

I really don't mind it cause they're lacking in heels on SmackDown! and it's a character almost reflective of the Million Dollar Man. If it flops, well, at least they tried something. The thing is, would it mean more if Eddie beats John Bradshaw Layfield, a much more threatening individual who's been built up and on a tear, or just plain ol' Bradshaw, the loser, mid-card tag team guy. It's probably just another Hardcore Holly thing where they're just building up a guy so the champ can beat but of course, I could be wrong.

John la Rock 05-07-2004 03:26 AM

**** Bradshaw, he sucks

big_bluto 05-07-2004 08:33 AM

The last time Bradshaw done anything decent was the PPV where the APA had a invitational bar brawl, Bradshaw won, Matt Hardy took 2 goes to put someone through a table, and it took 20 wrestlers to put Bradshaw over in that one.

As for JBL and the main event?
He should make like an old photo and fade!

King Jericho 05-07-2004 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Hot Scott
Does anyone think he'll beat Eddie at the ppv?

:lol:

If Bradshaw beats Eddie for the title at Judgment day, then I will lose alot of faith in the WWE. Why push Eddie (and Benoit for that matter) if there going to lose the titles to someone like Bradshaw.

Also, Eddie goes over angle at Wrestlemania 20, then loses to BRADSHAW at Judgment Day.....I think not (and hope not)

:y:

HankScorpio 05-07-2004 09:43 AM

I remember that Bar Brawl, that was pretty entertaining, Does anyone remember what PPV that was?
Bradshaw was pretty pointless, and I agree with MVP JBL is a good angle wasted on a Sub-par talent

KaliKot 05-07-2004 12:55 PM

Vengeance
It was pretty stupid making matt hardy pass out by jumping through the table

HankScorpio 05-07-2004 01:00 PM

damn straight, was good comedy tho, I'm gonna have to see that again soon.
thanks Kalikot :y:

Eunos 05-07-2004 01:51 PM

Still seems strange that at the beginning of the year Bradshaw was the first elimination in the Royal Rumble now his Main eventing.

Admitingly he plays his character very well... If only he had the Wrestling skills as well then i think he would be an excellent addition.

Oh well.. He'll be back on velocity when JD's All over :)

Lamuella 05-07-2004 02:19 PM

not a huge fan of the gimmick. Not a huge fan of his promo skills. Not a huge fan of his wrasslin' skills.

Bradshaw pushes always suck.

TheNamelessOne 05-07-2004 04:08 PM

I love his gimmick, and the storyline he is in with Eddie does make me laugh, but he is an utterly crap wrestler, and should be kept miles away from the main event.

Personally, I think the gimmick suits him a lot, but pushing him like this when he isn't even all that over is stupid.

Rock Bottom 05-07-2004 04:12 PM

I take it you don't regularly read SmackDown! captions Scott.

RGWhat316 05-07-2004 08:30 PM

I'm kinda mixed on the JBL gimmick. In a way I agree with his reasoning on immigrants, but the grin is really starting to annoy me. Which I guess is a good thing because it makes me want to hate him as a heel.

Nowhere Man 05-07-2004 08:31 PM

Blecch. A piss-poor wrestler vainly being pushed as a second-rate Million Dollar Man. No thank you.

Mr. JL 05-07-2004 08:44 PM

Notice how he has not wrestled one match? Because the WWE knows he ****ing sucks and would lose all heat and credibility had the fans seen him wrestle. He's got a great gimmick and has been given a good push. So maybe he can pull out a good match. And even if he can't, I'm confident that Guerrero will make him look like a star.

ColdwaVer 05-07-2004 10:07 PM

Honestly, I think Bradshaw gets a lot of extra crap around here because people don't like the guys politics. He's nowhere near a great wrestler and shouldn't be main eventing, but he's a better worker than Hardcore Holly and has garnered the most heat of any heel on SD since Angle. I'm going to reserve my final judgment for after seeing the PPV, but in my perfect world he'd be putting over Cena at Judgment day, and Eddie would be feuding with a heel RVD.

Marc the Smark 05-08-2004 11:01 AM

Bradshaw main eventing the ppv? zzzzzzzzzz.... wake me up when it ends :nono:

Kane Knight 05-08-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP
Great gimmick wasted on lackluster talent.

Amen.

I love the gimmick from the perspective of the "What a bastard" heel deal.

The wrestler still sucks tho.

big_bluto 05-08-2004 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdwaVer
Honestly, I think Bradshaw gets a lot of extra crap around here because people don't like the guys politics.

I don't care about his politics.
I think he's a shit wrestler with no talent and is only getting a push because he's on Fox or CNN or whatever the hell it is.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdwaVer
He's nowhere near a great wrestler and shouldn't be main eventing, but he's a better worker than Hardcore Holly and has garnered the most heat of any heel on SD since Angle.

Bradshaw shouldn't be main eventing? You're damn straight he shouldn't.
Better worker than Hardcore Holly? Dude, that's hardly a justification to continue living! Holly 'Sucks Ass (c) ' and should've been canned long ago!
Bradshaw has garnered the most heat of any heel since Angle?
Kurt has only been out for 2 weeks! Lesnar got more heat because he was leaving, and if Booker T had been drafted a few weeks earlier, then he would get more heat than bradsh</>it. Plus WWE isn't exactly flooding Smackdown with competition against him, are they?
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Originally Posted by ColdwaVer
I'm going to reserve my final judgment for after seeing the PPV, but in my perfect world he'd be putting over Cena at Judgment day, and Eddie would be feuding with a heel RVD.

R :y: V :y: D :y:
In my perfect world, it'd be Eddie v RVD, and Cena would be going up against Dupree, and JBL would be in his limo, moving down the east coast towards his retirement home, having just signed his 'I'll never darken your door again, WWE' contract.

A five-minute spot on the news once a week gets you a main event at a PPV?
If that's the case I'm gonna get on RAW and boot Vince, JR and HHH in the nuts, get arrested, claim to be Madonna's love-child, and be having an affair with Jennifer Aniston, get in the papers, on the news for more time than Bradshaw, get back in touch with Vince and demand to headline WMXXI.


'Sucks Ass (c) kindly used with permission of Ferocious, plc

Kane Knight 05-08-2004 01:50 PM

JBL isn't just given a bum rap because of his politics.

In addition to his politics, he also has professed a hatred for internet fans, he's a shit worker, and he's been shoved down our throats in the past and it's repeating in the present.

Better than Hardcore Holly is a big accomplishment...Ignoring the fact that even Zack Gowen was a better worker...


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