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Anybody Thrilla 08-28-2012 02:13 PM

Do you care about Sin Cara?
 
Like, at all?

I don't. He's just not doing it for me.

Have I made this thread before?

Discuss.

whiteyford 08-28-2012 02:16 PM

Not really, I mean he has no angle and can't cut a promo in English so that doesn't help, maybe if he was doing something I might care but as it stands I wouldn't even notice if he disappeared again.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-28-2012 02:22 PM

He is one of the several dozen WWE superstars that I currently do not care about.

Heisenberg 08-28-2012 02:34 PM

I can stomach his current feud with Cody Rhodes. I'm down for a Rhodes push any day.

Anybody Thrilla 08-28-2012 02:41 PM

The Rhodes feud is fun so far, but it's all because of Rhodes.

DaveBrawl 08-28-2012 03:00 PM

I am a fan. Sin Cara is generally one of my favorite parts of Raw. A pox on the head of all who disagree.

Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 03:04 PM

I have said it before and I will say it again. Sin Cara will never get over with a full face mask. Unfortunately, that is his whole "thing".

whiteyford 08-28-2012 03:04 PM

Don't listen to DaveBrawl, he's an Adam West fan.

Graveler 08-28-2012 03:04 PM

The fact that he doesn't speak English makes it hard to connect with him. I wish Hunico kept the mantel of Sin Cara

Nicky Fives 08-28-2012 03:08 PM

he screams "meh" to me.....

DAMN iNATOR 08-28-2012 03:18 PM

I could give a rat's ass about him. He gets virtually zero response from the crowds, RAW crowd was totally MILD for him last night.

DaveBrawl 08-28-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3960017)
he screams "meh" to me.....

Whiteyford will be screaming for help to you if he doesn't quell his attitude toward the great Adam West.

JKWJRMON 08-28-2012 03:19 PM

Once he stopped jumping from the ground over the 3 ropes, it was over. Hell who knows if that's the same Sin Cara as a year ago!

Cool King 08-28-2012 03:30 PM

I'm a bit like Guru Dave in which I really enjoyed Sin Cara Negro. That's not changed as I still think Hunico is fantastic.

Anyway, as for Sin Cara, he does nothing for me. I don't love or hate the guy. When he comes out, I think "Oh, right, a Sin Cara match". It's been said already in this thread by some people but with a full face mask and lacking English, he isn't going anywhere. :-\

I've only ever heard him talk once, and that was when I was watching a Spanish version of SmackDown and he was talking about the WWE's upcoming tour of Mexico.

The only problem I have with the Sin Cara character is the lighting during his matches. It's absolutely pointless, now that he wears red & white. The lights were blue and gold to reflect his attire at the time, but now it just looks stupid and it's even more annoying than before. You can't really see much and the crowd always seems so dead. Probably because it's dark, along with that they can't see much.

If I had to think of some improvements, I'd say get rid of the lights, learn at least some english and cut a promo. The fans need to know how he feels about certain things. Like his matches, Cody Rhodes, goals he hopes to achieve in the WWE. We can't really guess or assume that he's feeling a certain way. Pulling a mask while wagging a finger at someone really doesn't say a lot. He could have been pissed off when he did that, or cocky, or unamused.

How can people care about someone if they never talk and never show they're face?

DAMN iNATOR 08-28-2012 03:36 PM

I just got to thinking...was it because it was a tag match he was in that the weird lighting didn't happen as per usual in a Sin Cara match?

I haven't paid any attention to any of his singles matches lately because I just don't care for the guy, so I can't tell if they've gotten rid of that stupid lighting or not.

DaveBrawl 08-28-2012 03:38 PM

It was there with Heath Slater the other night.

Corporate CockSnogger 08-28-2012 03:39 PM

He's alright and would be great if they had some kind of cruiserweight division to just go out and perform, but without that he can pretty much never have much direction because of what people have already mentioned in here about his lack of promos and facial expressions.

Tommy Gunn 08-28-2012 03:50 PM

He's no La Parka, that's for sure. ;)

Cool King 08-28-2012 03:53 PM

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Corporate CockSnogger 08-28-2012 03:53 PM

Did La Parka ever have a storyline? Other than when they had someone dubbing a promo over him I can't remember much.

DAMN iNATOR 08-28-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl (Post 3960039)
It was there with Heath Slater the other night.

UGH. So annoying (the lighting, not DaveBrawl; he's never annoying :D). :n::n:

Juan 08-28-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl (Post 3960006)
I am a fan. Sin Cara is generally one of my favorite parts of Raw. A pox on the head of all who disagree.

This

Anybody Thrilla 08-28-2012 03:57 PM

A woman in a 3XL La Parka t-shirt may be my new deepest fear.

DaveBrawl 08-28-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3960072)
A woman in a 3XL La Parka t-shirt may be my new deepest fear.

It's not so bad once you get past the initial shock.

XCaliber 08-28-2012 04:15 PM

As an in ring competitor yes I think he is one of the best if only he could learn some english and cut a promo at least once and awhile it would be nice.

Rammsteinmad 08-28-2012 04:20 PM

Really can't stand the guy, to be honest. With his lack of English, and the full facial mask, it's really impossible to connect to the guy. With someone like Rey Mysterio, you can see his eyes and mouth, so even if he wasn't speaking you can feel the emotion he emulates when he's in pain. With Sin Cara, you can't.

In fact, even if someone is cutting a promo on Sin Cara, all he does is point. With Rey, you would be able to see the anger, shock or sadness in his face, with Sin Cara, he just points at them.

And finally, for a guy who should have an exciting style to watch, and with the label "Mexico's greatest high-flyer", all he actually does are variations of Arm-Drags and Hurricanranas.

On top of that, there's the annoying mood lights, the constant botching and until recently, the lack of any legit angle. There really is nothing for me to care about Sin Cara right now.

Schlomey 08-28-2012 04:26 PM

Well since internally I find his feud with Cody a demotion for Cody that probably means I don't care too much for Cara. It won't take much for me to care but some effort is going to have to be presented.

Innovator 08-28-2012 04:32 PM

I would like to, but I just don't.

Emperor Smeat 08-28-2012 05:08 PM

50-50.

He's been a lot better in matches that don't have that stupid dark mood lighting while he does need more time to fit into the WWE style instead of rushing things which lead to a bunch of botches.

In terms of direction, he's been doing mostly random matches than anything to help develop his character besides the short Sin Cara Black feud and the current Cody feud.

Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 05:13 PM

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Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 05:14 PM

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Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 05:15 PM

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Gertner 08-28-2012 05:16 PM

I like him more now since he's in a feud with Rhodes.

Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 05:17 PM

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Corporate CockSnogger 08-28-2012 05:17 PM

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Lock Jaw 08-28-2012 05:17 PM

I am sorry for my actions. I will stop.

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Corporate CockSnogger 08-28-2012 05:18 PM

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Anybody Thrilla 08-28-2012 05:19 PM

Is there some Sin Cara craze going on that I don't know about?

Cool King 08-28-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3960131)
Is there some Sin Cara craze going on that I don't know about?

Pretty much.

The main one is just people drawing Sin Cara over "60's Spiderman", which is already a "meme".

#1-norm-fan 08-28-2012 07:01 PM

I don't mind him. He needs a good feud though. With no cruiserweight division around and no title to fight for within it, he's kinda gotta be in feuds that don't just revolve around athletics and that means having good heel antagonists.

What I'd love to see is Cody injure his face again and this time come back with a white mask and do a Phantom of the Opera type thing. It would actually give Cody some character depth as he feuds with Sin Cara in a creepy Phantom-like mask over the fact that Sin Cara chooses to wear a mask at will while Cody has been disfigured and forced to hide his face. The Cody mask thing had a lot of legs left. It was good but there were so many more places they could go with it. I feel like this would be a good way to make a bland, generic Cody Rhodes and a currently directionless Sin Cara both interesting.


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