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slik 10-02-2012 07:16 PM

RAW does lowest rating...in 15 years!!!
 
WOW.

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In an update from earlier, the final RAW rating for this week is a 2.5. This is the lowest non-holiday RAW in 15 years

Shisen Kopf 10-02-2012 07:20 PM

Not surprising. The show pretty much sucks right now

slik 10-02-2012 07:21 PM

It's on it's annual fall auto-pilot mode that doesn't change until January.

Cuse8 10-02-2012 07:24 PM

good. the product is complete garbage. been a fan for over 20 years but this is the most bland and boring its been in years

Rammsteinmad 10-02-2012 07:27 PM

I really hope WWE "stays the course" here, and doesn't cop out by bringing in typical big names like Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Undertaker, The Rock etc. Of course ratings are low now, but as Slik/Seth said, things usually die down this time, but will quickly heat up around the Rumble time. NOW is the time to really establish a new breed of superstars. Tolerate this down-period, because it means people will be more familiar with these guys when it's really their time to shine in the spotlight that is Wrestlemania (and generally the first three months of the year).

Advertising a Triple H/Lesnar etc appearance is the mistake WWE has been making all year long, relying on older guys for quick ratings bumps that really do nothing for the product, other than give them a ratings spike for one show.

Corporate CockSnogger 10-02-2012 07:29 PM

Hope this means they bring Nash back.

Droford 10-02-2012 07:30 PM

3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?

Gertner 10-02-2012 07:31 PM

That's what happens when you let a vanilla midget hold your World Title. He's killing the company. They paired Heyman with him because Punk bores people when he speaks and not even that can save Raw.

The time for RYBACK to be World Champ is NOW!!!!

Corporate CockSnogger 10-02-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3994773)
3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?

They'll stay stubborn for as long as they can with it, can't see it making an entire year though.

Kane Knight 10-02-2012 07:37 PM

Lack of Cena=/= ratings

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3994773)
3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?

Errrr...The last few Raws have drawn the same ratings as usual, with even the third hour doing pretty well (The lowest hour for the week of 20 August being 4.4 million viewers). Raw is currently three of the top ten cable slots on a given week.

Remind me, chum, why this is a failure?

#1-norm-fan 10-02-2012 07:38 PM

The 3 hour Raws would be fine if they had writers who had any idea what they're doing.

Shisen Kopf 10-02-2012 07:49 PM

They need to stop doing all this Twitter/Tout bullshit. Also...RYBACK. Speaking of him. We need a new font here called RYBACK and the only you are allowed to use it for is saying his name.

Kane Knight 10-02-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3994784)
They'll stay stubborn for as long as they can with it, can't see it making an entire year though.

Yeah, I can't imagine a third hour that generally gets less than .2 million less than the second hour going anywhere.

Actually, by this logic, they should probably pack up and close down Raw entirely. After all, the number of viewers has been relatively stable for quite some time.

slik 10-02-2012 08:05 PM

The number of viewers this week was 3.5 million, which is around a million off from their usual viewership.

Emperor Smeat 10-02-2012 08:14 PM

They've been better in recent weeks managing the 3 hours unlike the initial couple of weeks where they went overboard with the recaps and lucky if the first hour had more than 1 match not involving a squash.

I doubt Monday Night Football has impacted the ratings more than its usual share this time of year especially after the recent ref debacles although its possible the audience has started to get burnt out on 3 hours or only starts to tune in a lot more from the 2nd hour on.

itsmeJD 10-02-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3994782)
That's what happens when you let a vanilla midget hold your World Title. He's killing the company. They paired Heyman with him because Punk bores people when he speaks and not even that can save Raw.

The time for RYBACK to be World Champ is NOW!!!!

I totally expected this to be your thread Gertie :D

Shadow 10-02-2012 08:26 PM

QUICKLY PUT THE BELT ON CENA!

MoFo 10-02-2012 08:35 PM

Cena wins @ HIAC then, thankfully.

Heisenberg 10-02-2012 08:49 PM

I thought they'd focus around Ryback to start it out, but they didn't. I stopped watching it after seeing a bunch of shit on my screen.

ron the dial 10-02-2012 08:52 PM

you guys are hilarious

#1-norm-fan 10-02-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 3994840)
QUICKLY PUT THE BELT ON CENA!

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Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3994850)
Cena wins @ HIAC then, thankfully.

In theory, Cena chasing the belt should draw better than Cena holding the belt.

Theo Dious 10-02-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3994773)
3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?

Or maybe instead of shit-canning an idea just a few months into its inception, they can figure out why it isn't doing well and fix that?

Anyways, ratings have less and less relevance these days especially given the money the 3 hour shows bring in.

KyleEmmott 10-02-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3994768)
Hope this means they bring Nash back.


slik 10-02-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3994867)

Anyways, ratings have less and less relevance these days especially given the money the 3 hour shows bring in.

The money they bring in is determined by ratings. That is how WWE/USA set the ad rates.

Blakeamus 10-02-2012 10:15 PM

I'm amazed of how some of you think the ratings are "poor" because of a guy being WWE champion. Give me a break! The question I have is, in CM Punk's 316+ days title reign, how many times you see a constant trend of 2.5s or a decline of viewers each week?

Nicky Fives 10-02-2012 10:15 PM

little kiddies can't stay up late enough for the full 3 hours during school season......

Blakeamus 10-02-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3994928)
little kiddies can't stay up late enough for the full 3 hours during school season......

:lol:

James Steele 10-02-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 3994881)
The money they bring in is determined by ratings. That is how WWE/USA set the ad rates.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3994791)
Raw is currently three of the top ten cable slots on a given week.

Remind me, chum, why this is a failure?

Fuck you for making me quote Kane Knight.

Road Warrior 10-02-2012 10:30 PM

Doesn't this usually happen when MNF comes back on ? Why is this surprising ?

James Steele 10-02-2012 10:35 PM

Where are the ratings reported? I can only find ratings from last week.

James Steele 10-02-2012 10:38 PM

Found them on a website, but it isn't Nielson's website or anything.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...w-more/150983/

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="629"><tbody><tr><td height="49" width="331">Show</td> <td width="53">Net</td> <td width="78">Time</td> <td width="84">Viewers (000) (Live + SD)</td> <td width="83">Adult 18-49 Rating (Live + SD)</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">NFL REGULAR SEASON L</td> <td>ESPN</td> <td>8:30 PM</td> <td>16616</td> <td>6.8</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">SPORTSCENTER: L</td> <td>ESPN</td> <td>11:40 PM</td> <td>4509</td> <td>2.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">MONDAY NIGHT COUNTDOWN L</td> <td>ESPN</td> <td>6:30 PM</td> <td>2941</td> <td>1.3</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">WWE Entertainment</td> <td>USA</td> <td>10:00 PM</td> <td>3472</td> <td>1.3</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">WWE Entertainment</td> <td>USA</td> <td>9:00 PM</td> <td>3598</td> <td>1.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">WWE Entertainment</td> <td>USA</td> <td>8:00 PM</td> <td>3436</td> <td>1.2</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">Family Guy</td> <td>ADSM</td> <td>11:00 PM</td> <td>2275</td> <td>1.1</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">Family Guy</td> <td>ADSM</td> <td>11:30 PM</td> <td>2225</td> <td>1.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">NFL PRIMETIME</td> <td>ESPN</td> <td>1:00 AM</td> <td>1770</td> <td>1.0</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="20">REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC</td> <td>BRVO</td> <td>9:00 PM</td> <td>1838</td> <td>0.9</td></tr></tbody></table>

FFS, RAW was still only behind MNF in the ratings.

James Steele 10-02-2012 10:40 PM

I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.

Curd 10-02-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3994940)
I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.

Yes, Vinny Mac orgasms for Twitter and authorizes Hulu licenses but fails to realize the Internet's impact on overall TV viewing.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-02-2012 11:04 PM

This is not a story. It's NFL season. Nothing to see here move on!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rSjK2Oqrgic" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Curd 10-02-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3994850)
Cena wins @ HIAC then, thankfully.

Like Hogan, Cena benefits from the football-related ratings dip when he leaves. Unlike Hogan, Cena isn't known for claiming credit for the ratings dip when he is off television.

James Steele 10-02-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Curd (Post 3994955)
Yes, Vinny Mac orgasms for Twitter and authorizes Hulu licenses but fails to realize the Internet's impact on overall TV viewing.

What do you mean? Pandora's Box has been opened and there is no going back, which is why they are going to Hulu and Netflix with so much of their content. There is nothing you can do to bring internet viewers back to exclusively watching live on cable tv.

el bobbo 10-02-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3994940)
I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.

Plus Monday Night Football is a bigger tradition than Monday Night Raw with most of the mainstream. There is no way Raw stands a chance to beat it this time of year.

I think the fall should be a season for wrestling to regroup, recuperate, and realize new talent.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-02-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by el bobbo (Post 3994961)
Plus Monday Night Football is a bigger tradition than Monday Night Raw with most of the mainstream. There is no way Raw stands a chance to beat it this time of year.

I think the fall should be a season for wrestling to regroup, recuperate, and realize new talent.

They should go to 2 hours for Fall and then bring back 3 hours for the Road to WrestleMania.

slik 10-02-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3994931)
Fuck you for making me quote Kane Knight.

How would a 15 year low be a win?

Curd 10-02-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3994959)
What do you mean? Pandora's Box has been opened and there is no going back, which is why they are going to Hulu and Netflix with so much of their content. There is nothing you can do to bring internet viewers back to exclusively watching live on cable tv.

WWE could do more with online distribution such as offering online membership to WWE.com for behind-the-scenes peeks and other exclusive content. The fact that McMahon is making such a big deal about TV ratings means that someone who reports to him, e.g. the VP of Marketing & Distribution (or whatever they call it now), was responsible for proposing the Hulu and Netflix deals.


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