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Old 10-02-2012, 07:16 PM   #1
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RAW does lowest rating...in 15 years!!!
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In an update from earlier, the final RAW rating for this week is a 2.5. This is the lowest non-holiday RAW in 15 years
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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Not surprising. The show pretty much sucks right now
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:21 PM   #3
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It's on it's annual fall auto-pilot mode that doesn't change until January.
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good. the product is complete garbage. been a fan for over 20 years but this is the most bland and boring its been in years
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:27 PM   #5
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I really hope WWE "stays the course" here, and doesn't cop out by bringing in typical big names like Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Undertaker, The Rock etc. Of course ratings are low now, but as Slik/Seth said, things usually die down this time, but will quickly heat up around the Rumble time. NOW is the time to really establish a new breed of superstars. Tolerate this down-period, because it means people will be more familiar with these guys when it's really their time to shine in the spotlight that is Wrestlemania (and generally the first three months of the year).

Advertising a Triple H/Lesnar etc appearance is the mistake WWE has been making all year long, relying on older guys for quick ratings bumps that really do nothing for the product, other than give them a ratings spike for one show.
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Hope this means they bring Nash back.
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3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #8
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That's what happens when you let a vanilla midget hold your World Title. He's killing the company. They paired Heyman with him because Punk bores people when he speaks and not even that can save Raw.

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3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?
They'll stay stubborn for as long as they can with it, can't see it making an entire year though.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:37 PM   #10
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Lack of Cena=/= ratings

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3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?
Errrr...The last few Raws have drawn the same ratings as usual, with even the third hour doing pretty well (The lowest hour for the week of 20 August being 4.4 million viewers). Raw is currently three of the top ten cable slots on a given week.

Remind me, chum, why this is a failure?
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #11
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The 3 hour Raws would be fine if they had writers who had any idea what they're doing.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:49 PM   #12
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They need to stop doing all this Twitter/Tout bullshit. Also...RYBACK. Speaking of him. We need a new font here called RYBACK and the only you are allowed to use it for is saying his name.
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They'll stay stubborn for as long as they can with it, can't see it making an entire year though.
Yeah, I can't imagine a third hour that generally gets less than .2 million less than the second hour going anywhere.

Actually, by this logic, they should probably pack up and close down Raw entirely. After all, the number of viewers has been relatively stable for quite some time.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:05 PM   #14
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The number of viewers this week was 3.5 million, which is around a million off from their usual viewership.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:14 PM   #15
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They've been better in recent weeks managing the 3 hours unlike the initial couple of weeks where they went overboard with the recaps and lucky if the first hour had more than 1 match not involving a squash.

I doubt Monday Night Football has impacted the ratings more than its usual share this time of year especially after the recent ref debacles although its possible the audience has started to get burnt out on 3 hours or only starts to tune in a lot more from the 2nd hour on.
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That's what happens when you let a vanilla midget hold your World Title. He's killing the company. They paired Heyman with him because Punk bores people when he speaks and not even that can save Raw.

The time for RYBACK to be World Champ is NOW!!!!
I totally expected this to be your thread Gertie
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Cena wins @ HIAC then, thankfully.
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I thought they'd focus around Ryback to start it out, but they didn't. I stopped watching it after seeing a bunch of shit on my screen.
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Cena wins @ HIAC then, thankfully.
In theory, Cena chasing the belt should draw better than Cena holding the belt.
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3 hour raw experiment = failure

How long before they sack up, admit it and go back to 2?
Or maybe instead of shit-canning an idea just a few months into its inception, they can figure out why it isn't doing well and fix that?

Anyways, ratings have less and less relevance these days especially given the money the 3 hour shows bring in.
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Anyways, ratings have less and less relevance these days especially given the money the 3 hour shows bring in.
The money they bring in is determined by ratings. That is how WWE/USA set the ad rates.
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I'm amazed of how some of you think the ratings are "poor" because of a guy being WWE champion. Give me a break! The question I have is, in CM Punk's 316+ days title reign, how many times you see a constant trend of 2.5s or a decline of viewers each week?
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Raw is currently three of the top ten cable slots on a given week.

Remind me, chum, why this is a failure?
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Doesn't this usually happen when MNF comes back on ? Why is this surprising ?
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:35 PM   #30
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Where are the ratings reported? I can only find ratings from last week.
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Found them on a website, but it isn't Nielson's website or anything.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...w-more/150983/

Show Net Time Viewers (000) (Live + SD) Adult 18-49 Rating (Live + SD)
NFL REGULAR SEASON L ESPN 8:30 PM 16616 6.8
SPORTSCENTER: L ESPN 11:40 PM 4509 2.2
MONDAY NIGHT COUNTDOWN L ESPN 6:30 PM 2941 1.3
WWE Entertainment USA 10:00 PM 3472 1.3
WWE Entertainment USA 9:00 PM 3598 1.2
WWE Entertainment USA 8:00 PM 3436 1.2
Family Guy ADSM 11:00 PM 2275 1.1
Family Guy ADSM 11:30 PM 2225 1.0
NFL PRIMETIME ESPN 1:00 AM 1770 1.0
REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC BRVO 9:00 PM 1838 0.9


FFS, RAW was still only behind MNF in the ratings.
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I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.
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I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.
Yes, Vinny Mac orgasms for Twitter and authorizes Hulu licenses but fails to realize the Internet's impact on overall TV viewing.
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This is not a story. It's NFL season. Nothing to see here move on!
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Like Hogan, Cena benefits from the football-related ratings dip when he leaves. Unlike Hogan, Cena isn't known for claiming credit for the ratings dip when he is off television.
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Yes, Vinny Mac orgasms for Twitter and authorizes Hulu licenses but fails to realize the Internet's impact on overall TV viewing.
What do you mean? Pandora's Box has been opened and there is no going back, which is why they are going to Hulu and Netflix with so much of their content. There is nothing you can do to bring internet viewers back to exclusively watching live on cable tv.
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I don't think WWE or any show on cable will ever get the kind of ratings they got back in the late 90s/early 2000s because there is just so much shit on TV now. There are too many options on TV, internet, etc for that many people to find 1 show to be "must-see". Sports have the built in advantage of only having so many games a year, the built-in hype and fan bases in major metro areas, etc.
Plus Monday Night Football is a bigger tradition than Monday Night Raw with most of the mainstream. There is no way Raw stands a chance to beat it this time of year.

I think the fall should be a season for wrestling to regroup, recuperate, and realize new talent.
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Plus Monday Night Football is a bigger tradition than Monday Night Raw with most of the mainstream. There is no way Raw stands a chance to beat it this time of year.

I think the fall should be a season for wrestling to regroup, recuperate, and realize new talent.
They should go to 2 hours for Fall and then bring back 3 hours for the Road to WrestleMania.
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What do you mean? Pandora's Box has been opened and there is no going back, which is why they are going to Hulu and Netflix with so much of their content. There is nothing you can do to bring internet viewers back to exclusively watching live on cable tv.
WWE could do more with online distribution such as offering online membership to WWE.com for behind-the-scenes peeks and other exclusive content. The fact that McMahon is making such a big deal about TV ratings means that someone who reports to him, e.g. the VP of Marketing & Distribution (or whatever they call it now), was responsible for proposing the Hulu and Netflix deals.
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