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Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 10:37 PM

Angles/Gimmicks that could have drawn big money and didnt
 
Lets all share ideas of Angles/Gimmicks that we think made it big but never got a chance to make the money they could have.

My first example? The Brood.

To this day very popular. Great talent. WAS OVER. Fans were digging them. Great entrance. Great looks. Great wrestlers.

I think had they really pushed the Brood first as Teag Team champs, then more they could have at the time made ALOT of money.

In the end 2/3 made it huge. But I never stop thinking they dropped the ball on big money with a Face brood...

The Condor 11-26-2012 10:50 PM

Totally agreed on the Brood. Personally, I think that Ron Simmons could have done something. His work in the Nation was good, and his work with the APA is untouchable for what it was, but he was a former World Champion in WCW, and a powerhouse fellow. I think they could have done something more with him in the mid-late 90's as a singles wrestler.

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:02 PM

Ugh Fixed the title.

Am I new to the internet?

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:04 PM

I am a big Simmons mark. The problem with him is when? I think he rebounded the best he could from a weak Farooq debut and maybe could have had a good run as a heel champ leading the Nation. Only the Rock outshined him immediately. After that, with the APA, he was on his last legs.

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:05 PM

I truly think if the Rock wasnt as amazing as he is, Farooq could have been a legit main eventer with the nation backing him.

Would it beat WCW? Not saying that.

Shisen Kopf 11-26-2012 11:09 PM

The Union. Mankind, Big Show and Shamrock were all pretty over. Test not so much but the stable never really did a whole lot.

Pintint 11-26-2012 11:14 PM

Manu.

This samoan monster could've been a bigger hit than Rikishi and Umaga combined.

Yet WWE just fired him.

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:14 PM

Test got big after, but yeah, had they pushed them on a strong Corporation they could have done the first successful Big Heel vs Big Face stable war I can remember

Better than 4Horseman/Sting vs J Tex

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pintint (Post 4043282)
Manu.

This samoan monster could've been a bigger hit than Rikishi and Umaga combined.

Yet WWE just fired him.

LOL. The troll work on TPWW has hit a high point. pintint is masterfully done,

Hanso Amore 11-26-2012 11:16 PM

That Said, J Tex could have been an all time deal if they didnt kill it so quick,

El Fangel 11-26-2012 11:17 PM

Mordecai.

Jesus, I was anxious to see him debut. Had hoped he would be a counterpart to Taker and be "that guy" after Taker left.

Nope.

Pintint 11-26-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4043288)
Mordecai.

Jesus, I was anxious to see him debut. Had hoped he would be a counterpart to Taker and be "that guy" after Taker left.

Nope.

I looooooooooved Mordecai as well, such a shame he couldn't get over.

El Fangel 11-26-2012 11:30 PM

Kenzo Suzuki, what happened to him?

Pintint 11-27-2012 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4043297)
Kenzo Suzuki, what happened to him?

OMG I loved him too. It seems all the characters I fall in love with dissappear. :(

Kane Knight 11-27-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4043288)
Mordecai.

Jesus, I was anxious to see him debut. Had hoped he would be a counterpart to Taker and be "that guy" after Taker left.

Nope.

Yeah, the D&D demographic doesn't really spend a lot on wrestling attire.

The MAC 11-27-2012 01:09 AM

WCW Invasion.

One way : Eric bischoff should have been brought in a GM of Smackdown, staged a coup of some sort and converted Smackdown into WCW Nitro. We could have had a staged war between the two brands for years.

So any ideas : Eric trying to steal talent from Raw, People turning heel by jumping ship to the "other" company.

Once a year there could have been a cross promotional PPV to blow off the year long cross promotional feuds.

FourFifty 11-27-2012 01:27 AM

"Wildcat" Chris Harris/Braden Walker could have been more than just a joke if WWE played their cards right.

Gertner 11-27-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 4043288)
Mordecai.

Jesus, I was anxious to see him debut. Had hoped he would be a counterpart to Taker and be "that guy" after Taker left.

Nope.

If he were a bit taller I would agree. He was kinda on the short side.

Autobahn 11-27-2012 01:54 AM

I have been watching lots of old WCW lately, and DDP comes to mind.

Perry Saturn 11-27-2012 01:57 AM

Watch WCW from 96-00' and every other gimmick that wasnt NWO was pretty good.

Gertner 11-27-2012 02:28 AM

NWO was amazing

Disturbed316 11-27-2012 03:47 AM

Sean O'Haire, but I'm not telling you something that you don't already know....

Rhaps 11-27-2012 04:05 AM

Test himself I thought could have/should have been a bigger star. He had the look certainly, and there's definitely been worse in-ring performers cluttering up main event scenes before and after him. Perhaps stick him with a mouthpiece and I would have easily bought into him as a top-line, world title carrying headliner.

Fignuts 11-27-2012 04:23 AM

DDP should have been a power player in the WWE. Should have won the WCW title much earlier as well.

Fignuts 11-27-2012 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 4043402)
"Wildcat" Chris Harris/Braden Walker could have been more than just a joke if WWE played their cards right.

That wasn't WWE's fault. Dude was fat and out of shape when they called him up. Chris Harris' downfall is all on him. No one else.

loopydate 11-27-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhaps (Post 4043501)
Test himself I thought could have/should have been a bigger star. He had the look certainly, and there's definitely been worse in-ring performers cluttering up main event scenes before and after him. Perhaps stick him with a mouthpiece and I would have easily bought into him as a top-line, world title carrying headliner.

Had they done the logical thing and had Test feud with HHH after the wedding, rather than pairing him with Shane, Test could have been huge. I feel like that moment was when Test's downfall began.

Pintint 11-27-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4043506)
That wasn't WWE's fault. Dude was fat and out of shape when they called him up. Chris Harris' downfall is all on him. No one else.

True, Harris came to the WWE looking like he spent the past 3 months on a non stop all you can eat buffet spree.
And I liked Harris in TNA...

CSL 11-27-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 4043378)
WCW Invasion.

One way : Eric bischoff should have been brought in a GM of Smackdown, staged a coup of some sort and converted Smackdown into WCW Nitro. We could have had a staged war between the two brands for years.

So any ideas : Eric trying to steal talent from Raw, People turning heel by jumping ship to the "other" company.

Once a year there could have been a cross promotional PPV to blow off the year long cross promotional feuds.

as if it took 16 posts for this to come up. The Invasion should have been head and shoulders the biggest angle in the history of professional wrestling and it should have stayed that way for as long as pro wrestling existed or until another company grew to WCW's level, fell apart and was purchased by Triple H Jr.

Hanso Amore 11-27-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4043674)
Had they done the logical thing and had Test feud with HHH after the wedding, rather than pairing him with Shane, Test could have been huge. I feel like that moment was when Test's downfall began.

That is how you make a new star. Very good point. Could have elevated him to a top level but never got behind him.

Hanso Amore 11-27-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4043697)
as if it took 16 posts for this to come up. The Invasion should have been head and shoulders the biggest angle in the history of professional wrestling and it should have stayed that way for as long as pro wrestling existed or until another company grew to WCW's level, fell apart and was purchased by Triple H Jr.

I thin kthe Invasion is sucha given that I dont even see the need to mention it. Obviously it should have been huge and was a complete fuck up. It was at that point I think Vince really lost contact with his audience and hasnt connected since.

whiteyford 11-27-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4043505)
DDP should have been a power player in the WWE. Should have won the WCW title much earlier as well.

First thing that came to mind, pretty much the same with 90% of the WCW talent the brought in though.

Hanso Amore 11-27-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4043505)
DDP should have been a power player in the WWE. Should have won the WCW title much earlier as well.

Yeah. He really should have been leading the Invasion with Booker T. Instead he was a foot note.

Emperor Smeat 11-27-2012 01:13 PM

The Nexus.

Should have lasted until Mania accumulating in a Barret vs Cena match but instead became a joke within a few weeks of their debut. Same for the Punk version when it went against Orton since that one also didn't last till Mania.


New Blood vs Millionaire Club.

In theory the New Blood should have been the ones getting cheered and become the future stars of WCW but horrible booking and direction basically killed them from ever getting over besides Kidman I think.

Hanso Amore 11-27-2012 01:40 PM

and if KIDMAN is your most over member, somebody fucked up.

Rhaps 11-27-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4043674)
Had they done the logical thing and had Test feud with HHH after the wedding, rather than pairing him with Shane, Test could have been huge. I feel like that moment was when Test's downfall began.

Yep, agree with you there.

XL 11-27-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4043674)
Had they done the logical thing and had Test feud with HHH after the wedding, rather than pairing him with Shane, Test could have been huge. I feel like that moment was when Test's downfall began.

Exactly this.

Hanso Amore 11-27-2012 02:47 PM

Stop fighting over Loopydate's penis. You can take turns fellating him.

RiX1024 11-27-2012 03:32 PM

Agree with Test, Agree with The Brood, Sean O'Haire's gimmick was underrated, Loved Mordecai too bad he didn't last long. Nexus was awesome til Cena treated them like jobbers few months later.

Fignuts 11-27-2012 04:59 PM

I don't get all the test love. He was pretty average.

Vastardikai 11-27-2012 05:06 PM

The Brood had a guy designated as their leader and they had a good talker. The big issue with the Brood was that the leader and the talker were two different people.

That said, I would have bought the SHIT out of a "The Freaks Come Out at Night" shirt.


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