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GD 02-04-2015 04:52 PM

Was Roman Reigns' loss to the Big Show a bad decision?
 
Roman Reigns suffered his first pinfall loss in singles competition on RAW when he lost to Big Show. I was thoroughly disappointed in how the loss was handled. The commentators undersold it as if it meant nothing.

Do you remember the last time Roman Reigns lost via pinfall or submission? Feel free to post your opinion o the topic.

road doggy dogg 02-04-2015 04:54 PM

Yes I thought it was terrible. If you're going to go ahead and make Reigns YOUR GUY then don't do some half-ass shit like that on Raw. Thought it was an awful decision.

NormanSmiley 02-04-2015 04:54 PM

him losing clean is not a bad decision. him facing the big show for the 10 time in 10 shows and never having another opponent is a horrendous decision

GD 02-04-2015 04:55 PM

I can't remember him ever losing via pinfall or submission other than that tag team elimination match where one of the Usos pinned him after a splash from the top rope.

JimmyMess 02-04-2015 05:07 PM

the front page acknowledged it was his first singles loss.

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2015 05:13 PM

Yeah, it was pretty fucking retarded.

Ultra Mantis 02-04-2015 05:14 PM

Gotta make Big Show look strong.

XL 02-04-2015 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanSmiley (Post 4580514)
him losing clean is not a bad decision. him facing the big show for the 10 time in 10 shows and never having another opponent is a horrendous decision

He didn't lose clean.

Guess they're damned if they push him to the moon and have him win every match, and damned if he takes a loss too?

Simple Fan 02-04-2015 05:34 PM

His last singles loss was in NXT to Leo Kruger.

road doggy dogg 02-04-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4580543)
He didn't lose clean.

Guess they're damned if they push him to the moon and have him win every match, and damned if he takes a loss too?

Normally I'd agree with this level of frustration, but I've "resigned" to the fact that they're gonna go ahead and push Reigns. If you're gonna make him your guy, why have him lose to someone like Big Show? Just seems like they're throwing darts on a board and not sure what exactly they are trying to do

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2015 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4580543)
He didn't lose clean.

Guess they're damned if they push him to the moon and have him win every match, and damned if he takes a loss too?

If they are gonna push him to the moon, he should look like an unstoppable beast or at least near Lesnar's level. Not just another one of those guys who loses randomly on Raw like that and then we're supposed to be invested in seeing him fight for the title on PPV (ie. pretty much every main eventer over the past decade plus).

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-04-2015 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4580554)
Normally I'd agree with this level of frustration, but I've "resigned" to the fact that they're gonna go ahead and push Reigns. If you're gonna make him your guy, why have him lose to someone like Big Show? Just seems like they're throwing darts on a board and not sure what exactly they are trying to do

Agreed.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-04-2015 05:59 PM

How many times did Daniel Bryan lose? Did it make him winning at WrestleMania more sweeter? Yes! Yes! Yes!

Shut up.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4580556)
If they are gonna push him to the moon, he should look like an unstoppable beast or at least near Lesnar's level. Not just another one of those guys who loses randomly on Raw like that and then we're supposed to be invested in seeing him fight for the title on PPV (ie. pretty much every main eventer over the past decade plus).

But they need to make the heels look strong and make the faces look "weak and vulnerable" so when they beat the heels it is a hugely triumphant moment!

loopydate 02-04-2015 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4580567)
How many times did Daniel Bryan lose? Did it make him winning at WrestleMania more sweeter? Yes! Yes! Yes!

Shut up.

Yes, because these stories are the same.

Emperor Smeat 02-04-2015 08:12 PM

Yes and at the same time he's not really benefiting by feuding with Big Show either.

BigDaddyCool 02-04-2015 08:19 PM

They still have wrestling?

Dark One 02-04-2015 08:21 PM

I'm just going to throw this out there:

I legitimately believe they had no idea they hadn't had him eat a singles pinfall on TV yet. They can barely keep their shit straight from one show to the other already (as in, "Here's Smackdown's main event for this week!" on Raw, and then the segment never actually happens). Without them constantly harping on him being unpinned/unsubmitted every week for the past two years, I'm pretty convinced they had no clue. Someone pitched it as a way to make him more sympathetic, everyone nodded, and that was that. No one thought about whether or not he'd been pinned in singles competition.

NormanSmiley 02-04-2015 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4580611)
I'm just going to throw this out there:

I legitimately believe they had no idea they hadn't had him eat a singles pinfall on TV yet. They can barely keep their shit straight from one show to the other already (as in, "Here's Smackdown's main event for this week!" on Raw, and then the segment never actually happens). Without them constantly harping on him being unpinned/unsubmitted every week for the past two years, I'm pretty convinced they had no clue. Someone pitched it as a way to make him more sympathetic, everyone nodded, and that was that. No one thought about whether or not he'd been pinned in singles competition.



this is so pinpoint accurate, I honestly think dark one works at WWE.

Dark One 02-04-2015 10:06 PM

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#1-norm-fan 02-04-2015 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4580571)
But they need to make the heels look strong and make the faces look "weak and vulnerable" so when they beat the heels it is a hugely triumphant moment!

If you wanna build up a guy as an underdog and make it look like a fluke when he wins, that's a great strategy. Roman Reigns is not the kind of guy to get over as the sympathetic underdog though. He's a guy who needs to act like a badass and back it up.

Heyman 02-05-2015 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4580509)
Roman Reigns suffered his first pinfall loss in singles competition on RAW when he lost to Big Show. I was thoroughly disappointed in how the loss was handled. The commentators undersold it as if it meant nothing.

Do you remember the last time Roman Reigns lost via pinfall or submission? Feel free to post your opinion o the topic.



I didn't see RAW, but didn't Reigns lose due to outside distraction? (i.e. someone interfered and distracted Reigns, which lead to Big Show punching him out). If so, then I don't think it really affected Reigns' credibility all that much.


I'm pretty sure Reigns will get a clean return victory over Big Show between now and Wrestlemania.


Reigns jobbing to Big Show probably isn't the best thing in the world, but I think the WWE wants to try and keep things as 'realistic' as possible, and have lots of 'shades of grey' as opposed to things just being 'black' and 'white.'

NormanSmiley 02-05-2015 03:18 AM

if they want reigns to get over he needs to just lay waste to people, heel or face. take out show, then take out ryback, talk shit about carrying ambrose, then get a hold of heyman and superman punch him. in 4 weeks you have the ultimate push going

SNLfunnyguy 02-05-2015 09:54 AM

I always ask myself, "would they have done this with Austin in 1998". I know nobody will ever be Steve, but it's how I think.

Chimera 02-05-2015 09:56 AM

I don't think it was a bad decision but what they do with Big Show next is important. Big Snow needs to start winning matches and maybe get the title again...then it is a good decision. But if he keep jobbing, then its a bad decision. In my opinion.

Big Vic 02-05-2015 09:59 AM

Reigns is an "unstoppable beast" going on to face another "unstoppable beast" he should not get the Austin booking, or Daniel Bryan booking.

Chimera 02-05-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4580794)
Reigns is an "unstoppable beast" going on to face another "unstoppable beast" he should not get the Austin booking, or Daniel Bryan booking.

If you loo at the way Devastator was booked during most of his singles matches in CHW, you see the best way in my opinion, to book a big man. Not too much of a monster to make it unbelievable but enough realism to make it interesting.

road doggy dogg 02-05-2015 10:19 AM

shut up, make actual contributing posts without referencing a bunch of fat kids doing backyard wrestling

Ultra Mantis 02-05-2015 10:26 AM

Big Show has actually only lost by pinfall or submission three times since Brock destroyed him at Royal Rumble 2014, jobbing only to Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt and uh, Stardust.

#1-norm-fan 02-05-2015 03:34 PM

I stopped caring about Big Show as a threat after about the 27th transition from "I'm a monster" to "I'm a glorified jobber"

NormanSmiley 02-05-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4581009)
I stopped caring about Big Show as a threat after about the 27th transition from "I'm a monster" to "I'm a glorified jobber"



this!!!

dingdongyo 02-05-2015 04:05 PM

Things I like about Roman Reigns:
- his double leg kick from the floor to the apron
- that one spear to the Big Show from the ramp

Things I dislike about Roman Reigns:
- everything else

Chimera 02-05-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4580810)
referencing a bunch of fat kids doing backyard wrestling

http://www.chwbackyard.com/uploads/2...213511.jpg?221

Yeah I don't think theres any fat kids in CHW

Chimera 02-05-2015 04:09 PM

that's Devastator btw

Heyman 02-05-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimera (Post 4581025)
that's Devastator btw

Chimera,


Can you please stop talking about you and your faggot friends on here?

RP 02-05-2015 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimera (Post 4581024)
http://www.chwbackyard.com/uploads/2...213511.jpg?221

Yeah I don't think theres any fat kids in CHW

So that's how Kris P is impregnating all these white hoes.

NormanSmiley 02-05-2015 05:19 PM

Big show should be sent to the backyard fed so chimera could have one guy on the roster who at one point had some skill

NormanSmiley 02-05-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingdongyo (Post 4581023)
Things I like about Roman Reigns:
- his double leg kick from the floor to the apron
- that one spear to the Big Show from the ramp

Things I dislike about Roman Reigns:
- everything else



they better kill the push right now!! there is someone who doesn't love roman reigns


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