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CSL 03-02-2015 07:45 PM

Bill DeMott in "he's a huge piece of shit" shocker
 
not sure why this has taken so long to come out. Everybody should read this

Quote:

Below is a Transcript of Austin's now Infamous "JUDAS" letter in its entirety: March 11th, 2013
Memo To: Canyon Ceman, Dorothy Brill, Jane Geddes
Memo From​Austin Matelson
Subject: ​Coach Demott
I am composing this memo today because I have had a number of serious concerns about the actions and words of head coach Bill Demott during my employment as talent for WWE developmental. Many of these actions I have tried to ignore or hope that they would cease but because they have now put me in a dangerous situation not only for my career but for my personal health and safety I feel the need to speak out to someone of a higher authority. In this memo I will provide details on a series of incidents which underlie my concerns.

I would like to request that this remain in strict confidence as I am afraid that if Coach Demott were to know I spoke out he would find ways to punish me for it. In fact the entire process of writing a letter to human resources has been called a “faggots” way of dealing with problems by Coach Demott.
Physical Injury Due to Imprudent Coaching: The action that has led me to finally speak out happened Thursday February, 28th following our house show. I had taken an awkward hit to my knee in a match and was being examined by Brian Duncan. This hit aggravated a previous injury, one that should never have happened, that I had sustained during a practice drill orchestrated by Coach Demott after practice had already been completed. An MRI revealed a partial tear of my PCL and a strain on a ligament in the back of my knee. I have been told that I can work through it but it may aggravate here and there. This injury can be enduring as many of the superstars on the main roster wrestle their whole careers with it.

I should never have had any issues with this knee but on that particular practice day, after a 3 hour morning session had ‘ended’ at 11 AM, Demott put 280lbs Gary Jackson back in the ring at 11:30 and forced 8 of us to give him 10 takedowns each. After Gary had bumped 60 times in a matter of minutes, I entered the ring and was asked to give him 10 fireman takedowns. On the first one he collapsed from exhaustion while on my back, driving my knees into the mat where I sustained this injury.
The hit I took aggravated it and Coach Demott pulled trainer Brian Duncan and I into the training room and said without any knowledge of my actual injury, “This injury can’t keep flaring up. It doesn’t look good perception wise to us (the office) or for your career going forward.” This injury was treated after the match and I was cleared by Duncan at the time.

Based on Coach Demott’s statement I feel that I am in a position where I have to cover up any injuries I may have otherwise I will be punished or fired. The following week I was in severe discomfort but fearing repercussions I attempted to work through it. Coach Demott has not only instilled this fear in me but I have spoken to several other members of the roster who have been made to feel by Coach Demott that their current injuries are signs of weakness as men, and could potentially lead Coach Demott to advocate for their firing.

On two separate occasions Coach Demott forced me to perform dangerous moves without properly warming up. One incident followed my first evaluation where Canyon Ceman asked me to start working on my parkour and gymnastics moves. It was 7:30 am before practice and he saw me standing in the ring with Enzo Amore and said, “Do a takedown let go of him and do a back flip then go back to him.” The idea made no sense, I was not properly warmed up, and I nearly landed on my head on one attempt. Thesecond incident was before a live event he wanted Oliver Gray to test out his finisher on someone so he grabbed me and forced me to take a high bump on my neck without warming up. I had missed a week of practice because of a neck strain prior to this and Coach Demott was well aware of that.

I have also watched and participated in drills that were hazardous to our safety. He has made us do squats on the top rope including some students who had never been up that high in their careers. He made the beginners group perform monkey flips without a crash pad and the first six who participated landed on their heads and necks and were lucky not to have been seriously injured. The aforementioned drill in which Gary Jackson injured my knee also saw Memo Montenegro injury his neck and shoulder. He was on his 40th bump in 5 minutes and got dizzy before his 7th consecutive hip toss and landed on his head.

Unprofessional Work Environment: The issue of physical well-being is not my only concern. I am an educated individual who worked at Cal State Northridge with Professors and students. I know how one is suppose to conduct one's self in a professional sense. I also understand that this is a unique business and the lines on proper behavior may be a bit blurred. Yet there is no question that Coach Demott, on a daily basis,not only makes unprofessional choices in words and actions, choices that go against many policies of this company, but choices that have created a culture of fear and negativity in this system. Showing up each day for training is mentally agonizing because of the comments we are all forced to hear. He routinely makes fun of anyone sitting out because of injury and also makes rude comments about people’s names and personal lives and has established a hostile work environment through verbal assaults.

To wit:
• Demott constantly refers to Oliver Gray as Joel Pedophile which personally enrages me because I used to help a Psychology Professor in Los Angeles do lectures for sexually abused children. • When Dante Dash referred to his finishing move as the Davey boy, as it was utilized by the late Davey Smith who died tragically, Coach Demott makes the following comment, “The Davey Boy? What turning blue and dropping dead on the lawn?” • Coach Demott told student Enzo Amore that he hopes he dies. • Demott also told our entire morning class and Ricky Steamboat's class to kill themselves just days after we tolled the ring bell 10 times for the late Mike Graham a former star FCW wrestler, who committed suicide. • Coach Demott routinely bullies Enzo verbally as well as physically. I have seen Enzo on several occasions be slapped in the face by Bill. During one practice he decided to show Enzo how doing a slam wrong could hurt someone, so he picked Enzo up and dropped him without warning directly on his head and neck. He then decided that each time a student slammed his 100lbs heavy bag with bad form that student had to slam one of his peers the same way. Demott found this drill amusing yet each student was put at serious injury risk. • Demott has grabbed an injured David Harwood by his neck pulled him to the office door and verbally chastised him for standing by the ring during practice when he wasn't cleared, even though he was simply listening to a lecture by Ricky Steamboat. • Demott has kicked Memo Montenegro in the groin and laughed as he crumbled into a heap. Memo being a Mexican immigrant to the United States has a heavy accent, which Coach Demott constantly criticizes and makes fun of. • He routinely will attempt to bust students lip on the bottom rope when they stand to close to the ring. On several occasions he has punished students for mistakes in practice by making them bend forward putting their face near the ropes so that Coach Demott can bounce the rope off the bridge of their nose. • He routinely calls Gary Jackson a fat tub of goo, tells Osmund Cherry who is of African descent, to go back to Africa and most recently has made derogatory remarks about sexual preferences to Brandon Traven. • Coach Demott insinuated that Traven is gay and used the derogatory term "half a sissy" to make fun of him simply because he sat out practice and has had several injuries in the last couple months. This is not the first time he targeted Brandon either. In December I witnessed Coach Demott question Traven about a head injury in the trainer’s room. After Traven explained that a blow to the head in practice had made him dizzy Demott slapped him in the head and left the room. • I witnessed a similar incident a few months ago when Alexander Russev was recovering from neck surgery. Coach Demott saw Russev wearing a NY Jets shirt at practice and not liking that sports team proceeded to physically grab Russev by the collar and rip the shirt off him. Russev was not cleared for any contact at that point and clearly showed physical pain after the incident. Following this incident a group of students were discussing how this sort of thing happened before with an injured Briley Pierce. Briley had a broken leg and Coach Demott kicked him in his medical boot. This happened before I was under contract but it nonetheless seems to fit a pattern of negligent and abusive behavior that I have observed with Coach Demott and is worth investigating further. • According to Oliver Gray, he was once told that if he sat out practice to rest a very bad low back injury that CoachDemott would pull him from the NXT tapings and from attending the Royal Rumble, even though the trainer had requested that Oliver sit out just one practice.

I have been in this system under Coach Demott for 8 months now and was recently told that I am not improving at a rate that is acceptable. I have made concerted efforts in the past to practice more often and work on the parkour moves requested by Canyon Ceman. However Bill has routinely kicked me out of the building after practice including a day when WWE superstar Alex Riley asked me to work on some parkour moves with him. This along with his constant interrupting of practices just to put people down and make negative comments has all but killed any motivation I have to spend extra time around him.

It should be stated that I am not a vindictive person. I am open-minded and do not have a problem with off-color jokes or difficult practice drills. I was signed to this company after Steve Regal told me he saw tremendous improvement in my ring work between tryouts. I told Mr. Regal that I could only imagine how good I could become working 24/7 for this company. I have always been intrinsically motivated and will practice something until I perfect it. Yet I personally feel that coach Demott creates an environment that hinders my opportunities to improve. Coach Demott restricts our practices, instead opting for dangerous and unproductive drills, while constantly verbally assaulting our appearances, personalities, sexual preferences, injuries, and character it seems impossible for me to maximize my time in the ring. In fact even as recently as training on March 4th, guest trainer Lance Storm went out of his way to demonstrate moves to me that Coach Demott had kicked me out of the building for not doing correctly. When I asked him how to do them Coach Demott said, "That was shit Judas, get out of the building."

Is this the type of work environment that the WWE desires? When can we set up a time to discuss this matter?

In closing I would be remiss if I did not clarify to you that this is solely a problem with Bill Demott and not a problem with the fine coaching staff that has been assembled around him. For example, Ricky Steamboat has been a terrific help to me and always provides me with positive reinforcement and quality examples to learn from. Terry Taylor has gone out of his way to pull me aside and give me helpful advice. Billy Gunn has been an amazingly refreshing force bringing knowledge and enthusiasm that has been extremely beneficial to the system. The changes that have recently occurred in the WWE have been excellent and I am excited for the future plans of WWE Developmental. It is because of these positive attributes that I am expressing my concerns to you. I want to be a part of a solution to the problems that I have listed, one that will lead to future success for the developmental system.
staggering if true. You expect a certain level of shit talking, general homophobia, cuntiness etc, it's pro wrestling, it happens from top to bottom. But the stuff with the injured guys, the head and neck stuff, the dangerous drilling is absolutely unbelievable/unforgivable.

Droford 03-02-2015 08:05 PM

That's no laughing matter

VSG 03-02-2015 08:17 PM

lol squats on the top rope :'(

I wasn't surprised that Bill DeMott is a massive piece of shit, but this was worse than I expected.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-02-2015 08:17 PM

He has had other accusers before.

Rammsteinmad 03-02-2015 09:28 PM

Remember when he made those guys train naked?

Emperor Smeat 03-02-2015 09:41 PM

Not surprised he's still horrible as the head trainer. Never got really punished for all the other times he's been the source of scandals or bad injuries. Even supposedly got the former head trainer fired for petty reasons just so that he could get his spot back.

Heisenberg 03-02-2015 09:44 PM

Just like I saw on Twitter, he was pretty merciless to my CAW in WWE2K15, so this no surprise

el bobbo 03-02-2015 09:58 PM

AJ, Paige and Renee on the screen at the same time. Get the lube out boys.

Corkscrewed 03-02-2015 10:03 PM

Wow, he sounds like the Richie Incognito of the WWE. Always knew he was a jerk, but the extent is pretty crazy.

CWK 03-02-2015 10:54 PM

This story could potentially blow up huge. For one since WWE runs anti-bullying campaigns and this story makes them look very bad.

Also this could potentially get bad publicity on Triple H. Since he is in charge of developmental, he's also an executive at WWE and is also now a member of the board of Directors but also even more, he has claimed publicly on numerous occasions to have video access to the entire performance center at any time from any location so he can watch what trainees and trainers are doing.

So, if this developmental talents claims are true and it seems that it is because there already has been another talent verifying these claims, then there should definitely be video footage in existence to support these claims.

This could be a major story and very damaging to WWE, especially if video of it leaks to the public.

If it's true, I hope DeMott gets payback sooner rather than later

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2015 08:47 AM

What's the internal feeling on how DeMott trains guys? You hear a few people speak up once they have left, but you don't really hear any rumblings of him being replaced.

Evil Vito 03-03-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4593131)
What's the internal feeling on how DeMott trains guys? You hear a few people speak up once they have left, but you don't really hear any rumblings of him being replaced.

<font color=goldenrod>Very few guys speak up about their treatment until after they're gone because doing so will torpedo their chances. WWE doesn't strike me as a company that has a code of ethics or anything that they need to follow. Vince probably finds DeMott's antics hilarious and looks down on anybody who can't take it.</font>

Evil Vito 03-03-2015 09:01 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Frankly if the NXT roster is a "tight" enough group to band together it'd be cool if one day at training they all just collectively sat out and refused to train/wrestle again unless DeMott got fired or suspended. It's not like they're just gonna fire the entire developmental roster.</font>

Nicky Fives 03-03-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4593141)
<font color=goldenrod>Frankly if the NXT roster is a "tight" enough group to band together it'd be cool if one day at training they all just collectively sat out and refused to train/wrestle again unless DeMott got fired or suspended. It's not like they're just gonna fire the entire developmental roster.</font>

especially not to keep DeMott..... someone needs to explain to me how that fat piece of shit is the head trainer and Billy Gunn, who looks in better shape than ever and 15 years younger than he actually is, is not....and I'm not even going to get into their respective careers....

KIRA 03-03-2015 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4593144)
especially not to keep DeMott..... someone needs to explain to me how that fat piece of shit is the head trainer and Billy Gunn, who looks in better shape than ever and 15 years younger than he actually is, is not....and I'm not even going to get into their respective careers....

Nothing but the fucking truth

Vastardikai 03-03-2015 09:46 AM

I think WWE would be better off having Bob Holly as their head trainer. He's an asshole, but he isn't a sadist.

CSL 03-03-2015 10:01 AM

they have all the talent and resources in the world at their disposal when it comes to training new guys, Dusty, Regal, Steamboat, Brookside, Dinsmore, Billy Gunn etc. One of those guys alone can give all the training and knowledge any wrestler would need, let alone all of them. If all of this is true, there is no need for DeMott to stay employed. WCW/the Powerplant showed that the idiotic drill sergeant way of going about things hardly produces the best results. It's 2015 and it's a giant global entertainment brand attempting to build media superstars that also wrestle, for any semblance of the macho homophobic racist territory mindset to still exist is pretty pathetic.

whiteyford 03-03-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4593138)
<font color=goldenrod>Vince probably finds DeMott's antics hilarious and looks down on anybody who can't take it.</font>

If even half the stories about Vince are true then this could be settled with trial by combat, where's a Daniel Puder when you need him.

You've heard stories about DeMott being a cunt for years, the fact they have guys like Regal/Steamboat etc who actually amounted to something other than being Goldberg's first win makes you wonder why he's been tolerated, as much as there's always going to be the 'man up' mentality the fact you have to think there's nothing the company would want to avoid more than the idea that it's a dangerous working environment, in light of Punks accusations especially.

drave 03-03-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4593288)
If even half the stories about Vince are true then this could be settled with trial by combat, where's a Daniel Puder when you need him.

You've heard stories about DeMott being a cunt for years, the fact they have guys like Regal/Steamboat etc who actually amounted to something other than being Goldberg's first win makes you wonder why he's been tolerated, as much as there's always going to be the 'man up' mentality the fact you have to think there's nothing the company would want to avoid more than the idea that it's a dangerous working environment, in light of Punks accusations especially.

Also, Scott Norton.

MoFo 03-03-2015 01:33 PM

Crazy how they still have a draconian head trainer when all the facilities around him are cutting edge and top notch

That stuff about slagging off Bulldog and Mike Graham...surprised he didnt get any shit from other higher ups for that alone

Heisenberg 03-03-2015 03:37 PM

JUDAS v.s. DeMott @ the next NXT live special I bet, being the Reality Era and all

Innovator 03-03-2015 03:57 PM

“WWE took the accusations made two years ago by Austin Matelson very seriously, conducted a full investigation and was unable to validate the claims. Regardless, WWE continues to reinforce policies and procedures to ensure a positive training environment.”

Heisenberg 03-03-2015 03:58 PM

super cereal

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4593178)
they have all the talent and resources in the world at their disposal when it comes to training new guys, Dusty, Regal, Steamboat, Brookside, Dinsmore, Billy Gunn etc. One of those guys alone can give all the training and knowledge any wrestler would need, let alone all of them. If all of this is true, there is no need for DeMott to stay employed. WCW/the Powerplant showed that the idiotic drill sergeant way of going about things hardly produces the best results. It's 2015 and it's a giant global entertainment brand attempting to build media superstars that also wrestle, for any semblance of the macho homophobic racist territory mindset to still exist is pretty pathetic.

Pretty much this.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2015 04:13 PM

Apparently Dinsmore was released as an NXT trainer. Does anyone know why this is? He was apparently very influential in the early development of guys like John Cena, Randy Orton and Batista from the OVW days. You'd think he'd the skill-set to be a fantastic trainer for the WWE.

Emperor Smeat 03-03-2015 04:50 PM

Don't think he was a full-time trainer and might have just been a guest one. Up until very recently Vince didn't care much about development or the amount of trainers needed.

Know that Triple H likes to bring in a bunch of guest trainers but don't think he's hired any new full-time ones since taking over. Either that or all the hires were from once he took over and not since.

rad dggy dg 03-03-2015 05:55 PM

Bill DeMott should do a run during NXT and make Flint Bayor take a chokeslam thru a table

rad dggy dg 03-03-2015 05:56 PM

hi everyone its me rad dggy dg and my favorite nxt moment was when Sasha Banks won the womens belt from charlotte flair

Evil Vito 03-04-2015 08:31 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Chris Jericho weighed in on Twitter:

Hey @BillDeMott is a good friend & great trainer. If u can’t handle it then quit. My training at #HartBrothers camp was 10,000 times worse!
-IAmJericho

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I love Jericho but...yeah, that was a pretty idiotic thing to say.</font>

Innovator 03-04-2015 09:17 AM

Pretty sure Hart Brothers training camp isn't a publicly traded company with a anti-bullying campaign.

RiX1024 03-04-2015 01:07 PM

I wonder if Sarge gave him tips on being a coach.

Heisenberg 03-04-2015 01:13 PM

Well, let's not pretend that some of us, if not all, have been in a dude heavy environment where being called a "fag" or "sissy" is the norm and typically encouraged.

This guy has a valid case against DeMott though, he looks like the guy that uses all that talk constantly. I don't know what the outcome is going to be, he's going to need a firing or heavy punishment to quiet this riot

Poit 03-04-2015 01:16 PM

I'm pretty sure the only environment I've been in where language like that is "the norm" was high school, where people were just too immature to know better.

drave 03-04-2015 01:17 PM

Outside of Poit's bubble, Berg is right.

He is still over the top with it all and something does need to be done.

CSL 03-04-2015 01:46 PM

you get it in any "macho" environment really, I rarely take part in conversations at work because it's a steady loop of homophobia, xenophobia and Chinese whispers of things they've read in tabloid newspapers or online. I don't call out every other person I work with because it doesn't personally affect anybody and I'd rather get paid than argue with a bunch of prehistoric mongs only for it to make no difference whatsoever. That said, even health and safety of the employees is a big priority for the clowns I work with, which amplifies the sheer ridiculousness of some of the stuff written in that e-mail.

WWE should obviously be held to an entirely different standard than my bosses daft little company anyway. But the stuff about injured guys, the head dropping etc is horrifying. There is no place for that in any line of work, let alone something as physically dangerous as pro wrestling. Pathetic is about the most apt word for it.

Ruien 03-04-2015 01:53 PM

This is over the top but I assume some of it is inflated to make it seem more serious than it really is.

CSL 03-04-2015 01:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I love/sacrificed for pro wrestling.
A Hart can stretch me any day.
A know nothing dipshit slapping me when I'm concussed is different.</p>&mdash; ec3™ (@EthanCarterTNA) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanCarterTNA/status/573002341944848384">March 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Innovator 03-04-2015 02:01 PM

Jericho deleted his tweet defending DeMott

Heisenberg 03-04-2015 02:09 PM

I hope he gets replaced and patched out of WWE 2K15

Nark Order 03-04-2015 02:14 PM

I'm wondering if this has more to do with the locker room culture than DeMott specifically. Tb1 and I went to wrestling school for a short time and there are lots of similarities to what was described in the article. Very much a politically incorrect madhouse fueled by testosterone-based dogma. You didn't complain about injuries or you were called out. You didn't complain about getting stiffed or you were a pussy. If you got exhausted and started vomiting, they would take digs about your fitness level. Lots of language that would be considered "hateful" in a traditional public setting. All of that was just normal.

With that being said though, the behavior of DeMott seems rather extreme in some of those cases, even within the context of the locker room environment.


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