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hb2k 04-06-2015 10:21 AM

Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
 
So, for this week's podcast, we're looking to tap into the more cynical and humourous part of people's minds, and talk about different pet peeves or just utter hatreds you have when it comes to the world of wrestling.

Is there one wrestler you always just utterly despised? A TV or PPV show that grates on your nerves? A commonly held belief that you completely disagree with? A pet peeve you constantly have to deal with that you'd like to eradicate?

Ultimately, who or what do you hate, and more importantly, why? As always we'll be reading the best submissions on the show and crediting you accordingly, so this should be fun to get a handle on who and what people personally don't like about their wrestling.

EDIT - The podcast discussing Wrestling Pet Peeves and Utter Hatreds, including many that are mentioned in this thread, is now available at the following link: http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean....gPetPeeves.mp3

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-06-2015 10:23 AM

I hate back-body drops. Seems like a stupid risk of landing on neck for an opening-mid match move.

Big Vic 04-06-2015 10:26 AM

I really dislike when a wrestler will look at the referee during a 3 count, showing no signs of fatigue and just plainly watching his hand until he kicks out.

I am noticing this a bit more now with a lot of wrestlers. I wonder if it happens more often now or I just didn't notice it as a kid.

Innovator 04-06-2015 10:39 AM

-Guys are are dead on the floor then amazingly run and jump into the ring at the count of 9. Some guys are great at the gradual sell, others like Cena just run in showing no effects of anything ever.

-Not enough poking/raking eyes or cheap shot behind a ref's back. I want more cheap shots.

-Some matches getting out of hand, while being athletic, take way from it looking like a fight.

-Weak ass clotheslines. RVD.

-Not enough secondary finishers that can end matches. Without them or guys using pinning combos, everyone just waits for the finishers.

-Main roster women either being whores/skanks/bitches or crazy. It's 2015.

-"This is awesome" chants. A false finish doesn't make a match "awesome".

Seth82 04-06-2015 10:44 AM

not taking a feud seriously - ie John Cena

Shisen Kopf 04-06-2015 11:25 AM

People still doing the "what?" chant. And yeah "this is awesome!" Is way over used. Stop that.

The same 5 legends at all the throwback shows. Duggan, Slaughter, Piper etc.

Rammsteinmad 04-06-2015 11:43 AM

I hate watching routines never get "learned" but the roster. Cena has been doing the two shoulder tackles for ten years now, yet people still always insist on throwing a haymaker immediately after.

Same for Ambrose falling into the ropes. You'd think people would learn what to expect by now.

BigCrippyZ 04-06-2015 12:00 PM

Constantly referring to us fans as "The Universe" or "The WWE Universe". It sounds so ridiculously stupid and gimmicky and the term itself is just stupid, combined with the fact that it's over used.

Other performance based entertainment companies, entertainers, etc., don't refer to their fans as anything other than fans.

We're fans, we're people, we're not stupid and we're NOT a GIMMICK DAMN IT!

loopydate 04-06-2015 12:10 PM

I hate when WWE ignores the past. It's so annoying to watch two guys have a blood feud where they try to murder each other right up to the moment where they have an organized, sanctioned wrestling match, then it's just on to the next guy. Then a couple months down the line, one of them turns face/heel, and now they're on the same side in tag matches, completely forgetting about the time they hated each other so much they almost literally killed each other.

KIRA 04-06-2015 12:18 PM

The CONSTANT social media plugs I swear I fucking hate the day Vince discovered that was a thing.

Vince- I would have to write an essay its not just one thing.

Fans who try to hijack genuinely good shows.

There is a certain amount of genre blindness in wrestling I can except but it gets ridiculous sometimes.

Irish whips on the outside are just dumb.

the word wrestling being a bad word

Certain wrestlers are not allowed to be more than a stereotype when they could be so much more.

I would say treating fans like idiots/underestimating them but sometimes I wonder.

loopydate 04-06-2015 12:21 PM

I also hate when the main event babyface beats up 50 people all at once on TV in about 5 minutes, but takes a grueling 25 minutes when it's just 1-on-1 at the PPV

Innovator 04-06-2015 12:30 PM

-Wrestlers acting like they don't watch the show.

-Main events of the show never being announced or made until halfway through the show.

-The over reliance on thigh slapping. Some guys can do it seamlessly, others can't.

The Condor 04-06-2015 12:40 PM

Wrestlers selling like death 8 minutes into a match. We are told that they are some of the greatest athletes in the world, so why do they blow up and milk non-existent drama?

Slow climbs have ruined ladder matches for me, as well as the endings of two guys battling at the top, one guy falls down, the survivor is the winner. I don't want to see anymore ladder matches for the foreseeable able future.

Bray Wyatt.

When the Authority(or any heel) plots their evil plan out loud and in front of a camera like a Bond villain.

The music that WWE uses is ludicrously terrible.

hb2k 04-06-2015 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar
Bray Wyatt

Out of interest, why so?

Fignuts 04-06-2015 02:00 PM

Dean Ambrose's rebound clothesline

Or more specifically the lack of selling afterwards.

Like, I don't mind that he powers through the attack to come off the ropes with a clothesline, but for god's sake, sell the fucking initial blow afterwards.

I remember Rollins hitting an enziguri clean on ambrose and he did the rebound thing, and taunted afterwards like nothiung happened. I'm like "HE JUST KICKED YOU SQUARE IN THE HEAD. FALL DOWN AFTER YOUR DUMB CLOTHESLINE."

loopydate 04-06-2015 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4612125)
-Main events of the show never being announced or made until halfway through the show.

Yes! What do the Authority do in the days between shows? They're clearly not laying out the next episode. What would happen at the end of the show if four people hadn't come out to interrupt each other's promos in the first segmemt to set up that "blockbuster" tag match? Do they just shrug and start the NCIS rerun a half hour early?

Bad News Gertner 04-06-2015 02:22 PM

Fans who try and get themselves over with retarded chants (NXT crowds).

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-06-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4612152)
Fans who try and get themselves over with retarded chants (NXT crowds).

The chants are to help the talent get over not themselves.

Bad News Gertner 04-06-2015 02:25 PM

I hate that every wrestler looks the same: 6"0-6"2 , 210-230 pounds. There used to be wrestlers of all shapes and sizes. It added variety.

I just hate smarks. Too many reasons to count.

drave 04-06-2015 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4612155)
I hate that every wrestler looks the same: 6"0-6"2 , 210-230 pounds. There used to be wrestlers of all shapes and sizes. It added variety.

I just hate smarks. Too many reasons to count.

Bring back fat guys with mullets!

RiX1024 04-06-2015 02:55 PM

Refs counting to 5 when a wrestler goes on the top rope....chuffing pointless rule.

What chants during promos, it's getting boring.

26 finishers in a match, no psychology whatsoever.

Not enough bastard heels, too many heels are the same.

loopydate 04-06-2015 03:01 PM

Bad-ass babyfaces who will take on the world that immediately become spineless cowards the moment they turn heel.

Innovator 04-06-2015 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4612172)
Bad-ass babyfaces who will take on the world that immediately become spineless cowards the moment they turn heel.

Man I hate that. Why did Seth hitting Roman and Dean with a chair zap him of all his courage? Same with Punk, a clothesline to the Rock completely altered his character.

Innovator 04-06-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4612146)
Yes! What do the Authority do in the days between shows? They're clearly not laying out the next episode. What would happen at the end of the show if four people hadn't come out to interrupt each other's promos in the first segmemt to set up that "blockbuster" tag match? Do they just shrug and start the NCIS rerun a half hour early?

That's why I love Regal in NXT, he comments that the show is booked solid and the person will have to wait a week. Most backstage skits with him he's reading or relaxing with some tea. Why not? His work should be done for the night.

loopydate 04-06-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4612179)
That's why I love Regal in NXT, he comments that the show is booked solid and the person will have to wait a week. Most backstage skits with him he's reading or relaxing with some tea. Why not? His work should be done for the night.

Watching a ton of mid-'90s PPVs, back in the days when authority figures just made matches and did the whole Deus Ex Machina thing, and I'd say a majority of these shows have some sort of mention of what the next night's Raw main event was going to be. Hell, in the "post show" for the Rumble '96, Gorilla Monsoon announces the main event for the next month's IYH.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-06-2015 03:56 PM

People still love Austin, it would just depend how he was promoted and treated.

Simple Fan 04-06-2015 04:05 PM

Daniel Bryan. Small little troll with no personality and made the fans like him because they can chant with him. Kick,kick, kick, kick, some Benoit moves and a weak ass running knee. Just don't see why everyone like him.

loopydate 04-06-2015 04:47 PM

Fans who think that WWE sucks because it's not the Attitude Era anymore. "If we could just get blood and sex and swearing back, it would be great again!" They forget that there was just as much crap back then as there is now. They just edit that shit out of the highlight reels. Wrestling today isn't unwatchabls because it's PG. It's unwatchable because the writing is terrible and they have no idea how to build more than about 4-6 characters at any given time.

Ruien 04-06-2015 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4612178)
Man I hate that. Why did Seth hitting Roman and Dean with a chair zap him of all his courage? Same with Punk, a clothesline to the Rock completely altered his character.

As much as I get the point but Seth really hasn't backed down from opponents really. I remember before Fastlane he had to go against Daniel Bryan to try to get Roman Reign's main event spot and he didn't complain at all at having to wrestle Daniel first.

Theo Dious 04-06-2015 06:28 PM

Top level announcers who don't understand the meaning of what they're saying. Most specifically the misuse of "Calvary" when they mean "cavalry" and the use of the word "dehabilitating." The word is DEBILITATING. They're professional fucking broadcasters for crying out loud.

Midcard title meaninglessness. Though there may be hope for that. Not holding my breath though, we'll see.

The fact that every show is live action and backstage. Put the commentators backstage except for PPVs and have actual sets.

No more enhancement matches. Cornette recently said on JRs podcast, bring them back so that you aren't constantly damaging midcarders.

Emperor Smeat 04-06-2015 06:32 PM

Wrestlers being horrible with selling moves or suddenly acting like nothing happened once the match ends. Cena being a big example of both.

Big Show in general.

Outside of a couple of wrestlers, monster/beast type pushes for big men type wrestlers since those either fail badly or completely fall apart once the first big loss happens. Makes all the squashing done seem useless in the end.

Theo Dious 04-06-2015 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4612216)
As much as I get the point but Seth really hasn't backed down from opponents really. I remember before Fastlane he had to go against Daniel Bryan to try to get Roman Reign's main event spot and he didn't complain at all at having to wrestle Daniel first.

Yeah Rollins has never been a solo brave guy, he just went from having his "Shield brethren" behind him to having the Authority and then J&J security.

Bad News Gertner 04-06-2015 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4612154)
The chants are to help the talent get over not themselves.

Lol bull fucking shit

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-06-2015 06:39 PM

NXT crowd never did "We are awesome"

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-06-2015 06:42 PM

Having the tag ropes attached and them never being used. Why did they even bother to put them on?

Closed fists are apparently legal now also.

Mercenary 04-06-2015 06:57 PM

Double countouts. Just screams we have no idea what to do with this feud

loopydate 04-06-2015 07:20 PM

Oh, also, Steve Austin. Fuck that guy. I get why he's important and all, but, seriously, fuck that guy.

Lock Jaw 04-06-2015 07:27 PM

Whenever Michael Cole shouts "For the win!" when someone goes for a pin...... What else would it be for? Also, he never actually says it for the actual finish.

The slow climbing of ladders in ladder matches. I'm used to it being one of "wrestling's rules".... but watching Mania with an "outsider" this year, she was just confused and wondering why they all climbed the ladder so excruciatingly slow (Except for when they were climbing to stop someone else).

The Snake 04-06-2015 07:28 PM

Frequency in which finishers are kicked out of is a big one with me. When the guy's face is full of shock that his finisher got kicked out of , i go "really?, cause that happened the last match you had and the one before" The finisher isn't really a finisher anymore. It's more of a way of saying this match is coming to a close soonish. But never on the first one.

CSL 04-06-2015 07:43 PM

Irish whips when the guy sending somebody in barely puts any effort in at all/flicks his wrists/is too busy diving into his next "action"


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