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Do Unto Others...
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Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
So, for this week's podcast, we're looking to tap into the more cynical and humourous part of people's minds, and talk about different pet peeves or just utter hatreds you have when it comes to the world of wrestling.
Is there one wrestler you always just utterly despised? A TV or PPV show that grates on your nerves? A commonly held belief that you completely disagree with? A pet peeve you constantly have to deal with that you'd like to eradicate? Ultimately, who or what do you hate, and more importantly, why? As always we'll be reading the best submissions on the show and crediting you accordingly, so this should be fun to get a handle on who and what people personally don't like about their wrestling. EDIT - The podcast discussing Wrestling Pet Peeves and Utter Hatreds, including many that are mentioned in this thread, is now available at the following link: http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean....gPetPeeves.mp3 ![]() ![]() Crazy Like A Fox - The Definitive Chronicle of Brian Pillman 20 Years Later **Featuring interviews with members of the Pillman family, Dave Meltzer, Kim Wood, Raven, Jim Cornette, Mark Madden, Shane Douglas, Mark Coleman, Alex Marvez, Les Thatcher and many more close friends and colleagues** Available on Amazon now: http://amzn.to/2h93SxL Last edited by hb2k; 04-12-2015 at 07:46 AM. |
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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I hate back-body drops. Seems like a stupid risk of landing on neck for an opening-mid match move.
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( ._.)
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I really dislike when a wrestler will look at the referee during a 3 count, showing no signs of fatigue and just plainly watching his hand until he kicks out.
I am noticing this a bit more now with a lot of wrestlers. I wonder if it happens more often now or I just didn't notice it as a kid. |
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#4 |
Inno Knows.
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-Guys are are dead on the floor then amazingly run and jump into the ring at the count of 9. Some guys are great at the gradual sell, others like Cena just run in showing no effects of anything ever.
-Not enough poking/raking eyes or cheap shot behind a ref's back. I want more cheap shots. -Some matches getting out of hand, while being athletic, take way from it looking like a fight. -Weak ass clotheslines. RVD. -Not enough secondary finishers that can end matches. Without them or guys using pinning combos, everyone just waits for the finishers. -Main roster women either being whores/skanks/bitches or crazy. It's 2015. -"This is awesome" chants. A false finish doesn't make a match "awesome". |
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Wrestling Marks Rejoice!
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Semi-related: The Young Bucks. I'm not one who outright bashes talent often (personal dislike of talent like boring-ass Rusev or Chris Masters isn't exactly the same as shitting on them wholesale), but these spot monkey knockoff Hardy Boyz epitomize the dim view that critics of indy wrestling speak of. Yeah, people are popping for 800 flips per match, but that doesn't make Jim Cornette "wrong". Throwing a bunch of highspots with no match flow, no storytelling reason, and half the spots could be finishes that are just thrown away ultimately benefits nobody in the long run. Short term pops, long view of injury risk for everyone involved. Every match I have ever seen of them, even on regular TNA tv, were trainwrecks. The difference between them and people like, say, Daniel Bryan is such: DB is good at what he does, and people go "it's not his fault he didn't grow a foot taller! He's good at what he does, and it would be nice if he got recognition for his talent", The YB's, on the other hand, are just popular. POPULAR DOESN'T ALWAYS EQUATE TO GOOD! They're not necessarily good at what they do. They have fresh faces all the girls want to sit on, do shit in matches to get all the attention on mostly them, and have teamed up with the Neo nWo for a proxy rub. These guys in action are why smarks cringe at the thought of Devitt or KENTA in a WWE ring when it was first announced. Its why Kalisto and Kofi won't be much outside of a high octane tag partner. As good as his call up has been so far, it is why I don't expect much from Neville's main roster run... the negative stigma of the "high flyer" is too great. And those two dickheads either are blind to the fact they aren't helping, or just too arrogant to give a shit. |
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Celestia's Left Hand
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#7 |
OLD SCHOOL FAN
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not taking a feud seriously - ie John Cena
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#8 |
They're eating the dogs..
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People still doing the "what?" chant. And yeah "this is awesome!" Is way over used. Stop that.
The same 5 legends at all the throwback shows. Duggan, Slaughter, Piper etc. |
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#9 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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I hate watching routines never get "learned" but the roster. Cena has been doing the two shoulder tackles for ten years now, yet people still always insist on throwing a haymaker immediately after.
Same for Ambrose falling into the ropes. You'd think people would learn what to expect by now. |
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Constantly referring to us fans as "The Universe" or "The WWE Universe". It sounds so ridiculously stupid and gimmicky and the term itself is just stupid, combined with the fact that it's over used.
Other performance based entertainment companies, entertainers, etc., don't refer to their fans as anything other than fans. We're fans, we're people, we're not stupid and we're NOT a GIMMICK DAMN IT! |
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#11 |
Celestia's Left Hand
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The CONSTANT social media plugs I swear I fucking hate the day Vince discovered that was a thing.
Vince- I would have to write an essay its not just one thing. Fans who try to hijack genuinely good shows. There is a certain amount of genre blindness in wrestling I can except but it gets ridiculous sometimes. Irish whips on the outside are just dumb. the word wrestling being a bad word Certain wrestlers are not allowed to be more than a stereotype when they could be so much more. I would say treating fans like idiots/underestimating them but sometimes I wonder. |
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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I hate when WWE ignores the past. It's so annoying to watch two guys have a blood feud where they try to murder each other right up to the moment where they have an organized, sanctioned wrestling match, then it's just on to the next guy. Then a couple months down the line, one of them turns face/heel, and now they're on the same side in tag matches, completely forgetting about the time they hated each other so much they almost literally killed each other.
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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I also hate when the main event babyface beats up 50 people all at once on TV in about 5 minutes, but takes a grueling 25 minutes when it's just 1-on-1 at the PPV
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Inno Knows.
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-Wrestlers acting like they don't watch the show.
-Main events of the show never being announced or made until halfway through the show. -The over reliance on thigh slapping. Some guys can do it seamlessly, others can't. |
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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Yes! What do the Authority do in the days between shows? They're clearly not laying out the next episode. What would happen at the end of the show if four people hadn't come out to interrupt each other's promos in the first segmemt to set up that "blockbuster" tag match? Do they just shrug and start the NCIS rerun a half hour early?
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Inno Knows.
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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Watching a ton of mid-'90s PPVs, back in the days when authority figures just made matches and did the whole Deus Ex Machina thing, and I'd say a majority of these shows have some sort of mention of what the next night's Raw main event was going to be. Hell, in the "post show" for the Rumble '96, Gorilla Monsoon announces the main event for the next month's IYH.
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Re-Branded
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Wrestlers selling like death 8 minutes into a match. We are told that they are some of the greatest athletes in the world, so why do they blow up and milk non-existent drama?
Slow climbs have ruined ladder matches for me, as well as the endings of two guys battling at the top, one guy falls down, the survivor is the winner. I don't want to see anymore ladder matches for the foreseeable able future. Bray Wyatt. When the Authority(or any heel) plots their evil plan out loud and in front of a camera like a Bond villain. The music that WWE uses is ludicrously terrible. |
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Do Unto Others...
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Hey Mister!
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Dean Ambrose's rebound clothesline
Or more specifically the lack of selling afterwards. Like, I don't mind that he powers through the attack to come off the ropes with a clothesline, but for god's sake, sell the fucking initial blow afterwards. I remember Rollins hitting an enziguri clean on ambrose and he did the rebound thing, and taunted afterwards like nothiung happened. I'm like "HE JUST KICKED YOU SQUARE IN THE HEAD. FALL DOWN AFTER YOUR DUMB CLOTHESLINE." |
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Best Poster
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Fans who try and get themselves over with retarded chants (NXT crowds).
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#22 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
Posts: 38,371
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Best Poster
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#24 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
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Feeling Oof-y
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Forgot one;
They have 3 hours of Raw every week and we still only get the same handful of guys featured. The fact that Ryback, Reigns, and Orton each wrestled twice on Monday is ridiculous. Wouldn't that time have been better served highlighting some other guys? |
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Best Poster
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I hate that every wrestler looks the same: 6"0-6"2 , 210-230 pounds. There used to be wrestlers of all shapes and sizes. It added variety.
I just hate smarks. Too many reasons to count. |
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Refs counting to 5 when a wrestler goes on the top rope....chuffing pointless rule.
What chants during promos, it's getting boring. 26 finishers in a match, no psychology whatsoever. Not enough bastard heels, too many heels are the same. |
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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Bad-ass babyfaces who will take on the world that immediately become spineless cowards the moment they turn heel.
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Inno Knows.
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Man I hate that. Why did Seth hitting Roman and Dean with a chair zap him of all his courage? Same with Punk, a clothesline to the Rock completely altered his character.
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MVP Mark
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As much as I get the point but Seth really hasn't backed down from opponents really. I remember before Fastlane he had to go against Daniel Bryan to try to get Roman Reign's main event spot and he didn't complain at all at having to wrestle Daniel first.
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EATER OF HOT POCKETS
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Yeah Rollins has never been a solo brave guy, he just went from having his "Shield brethren" behind him to having the Authority and then J&J security.
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( ._.)
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This one gets me too. If there's a story that the ex-face has turned heel because they are afraid of someone in particular; or they are getting older and want to work smarter, not harder -- I can sort of buy it -- but that doesn't mean you need to become a coward. Randy Orton lost so much credibility as a chickenshit under The Authority. When you really think about, as far as their personalities go, Daniel Bryan might as well have headlined WrestleMania XXX by himself Orton's heel champion was so weak.
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boop/bop/beep
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People still love Austin, it would just depend how he was promoted and treated.
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Let me talk to ya
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Daniel Bryan. Small little troll with no personality and made the fans like him because they can chant with him. Kick,kick, kick, kick, some Benoit moves and a weak ass running knee. Just don't see why everyone like him.
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FIT Challenge Slag People
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Fans who think that WWE sucks because it's not the Attitude Era anymore. "If we could just get blood and sex and swearing back, it would be great again!" They forget that there was just as much crap back then as there is now. They just edit that shit out of the highlight reels. Wrestling today isn't unwatchabls because it's PG. It's unwatchable because the writing is terrible and they have no idea how to build more than about 4-6 characters at any given time.
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EATER OF HOT POCKETS
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Top level announcers who don't understand the meaning of what they're saying. Most specifically the misuse of "Calvary" when they mean "cavalry" and the use of the word "dehabilitating." The word is DEBILITATING. They're professional fucking broadcasters for crying out loud.
Midcard title meaninglessness. Though there may be hope for that. Not holding my breath though, we'll see. The fact that every show is live action and backstage. Put the commentators backstage except for PPVs and have actual sets. No more enhancement matches. Cornette recently said on JRs podcast, bring them back so that you aren't constantly damaging midcarders. |
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#39 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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Wrestlers being horrible with selling moves or suddenly acting like nothing happened once the match ends. Cena being a big example of both.
Big Show in general. Outside of a couple of wrestlers, monster/beast type pushes for big men type wrestlers since those either fail badly or completely fall apart once the first big loss happens. Makes all the squashing done seem useless in the end. |
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Quark is Less Impressed.
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NXT crowd never did "We are awesome"
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