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Ruien 05-19-2015 11:39 AM

R.I.P. Rusev (STD Title Approved)
 
We will miss you :'(

Big Vic 05-19-2015 12:02 PM

He'll prob suffer another pinfall loss in the chamber too :/

Maluco 05-19-2015 12:19 PM

Hoganesque feud, build up foreign monster, feed to champ, destroy his previously feared finisher, squeeze all mileage out of feud until its absolutely clear that he is inferior.

Even an IC title win won't halt the slide IMO. Another mini build until a face beats him for that too and then into comedy...

Lock Jaw 05-19-2015 12:35 PM

Come on people.... he is doing fine.... Heels lose.... get over it.... no shame in losing to one of the top names of the company.... if he starts losing throw-away matches to Zack Ryder or something, then you can worry...

Thought he did great last night on his own, yelling "THERE IS NO LANAAAA"

Bad News Gertner 05-19-2015 12:44 PM

It'd be semi ok if Lana was actually attractive.

Instead of using the Titan Tron, they should just use a projector on Lana's giant forehead.

Big Vic 05-19-2015 12:48 PM

"her second toe is like half an inch longer than her big toe!"

Ruien 05-19-2015 12:52 PM

Lana is also turning into a whore so yey for that. :|

Ruien 05-19-2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4634523)
Come on people.... he is doing fine.... Heels lose.... get over it.... no shame in losing to one of the top names of the company.... if he starts losing throw-away matches to Zack Ryder or something, then you can worry...

Thought he did great last night on his own, yelling "THERE IS NO LANAAAA"

When was the last time they did something like this for the monster heel to regain momentum?

Big Vic 05-19-2015 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4634523)
Come on people.... he is doing fine.... Heels lose.... get over it.... no shame in losing to one of the top names of the company.... if he starts losing throw-away matches to Zack Ryder or something, then you can worry...

Thought he did great last night on his own, yelling "THERE IS NO LANAAAA"

Yes but WWE fumbles everything,

See "Sandow", or "the womens division"

The Condor 05-19-2015 01:01 PM

Rather than a cobra sock puppet, we should be prepared for the Russian bear sock puppet.

Lock Jaw 05-19-2015 01:02 PM

It tires me to argue, so instead of arguing, I will just say...

R.I.P. Crazy Edgar

Heisenberg 05-19-2015 01:09 PM

RIP Kamala

Ruien 05-19-2015 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4634529)
When was the last time they did something like this for the monster heel to regain momentum?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4634534)
It tires me to argue, so instead of arguing, I will just say...

R.I.P. Crazy Edgar

Isn't really an argument. Its more like a question. Maybe there is something I am not seeing.

Also, Crazy Edgar came back from the grave.

Anybody Thrilla 05-19-2015 01:10 PM

FIRST HOUR: "I care for you, Rusev! I was doing what was right for us!"

SECOND HOUR: "I"m going to make out with Dolph Ziggler."

That's what bothers me.

Ruien 05-19-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4634528)
Lana is also turning into a whore so yey for that. :|

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4634540)
FIRST HOUR: "I care for you, Rusev! I was doing what was right for us!"

SECOND HOUR: "I"m going to make out with Dolph Ziggler."

That's what bothers me.

My thoughts exactly. Really annoying.

Big Vic 05-19-2015 01:14 PM

I wouldn't say whore but just a terribly weak person character wise.

Anybody Thrilla 05-19-2015 01:27 PM

A woman who spoke so passionately of her convictions such a short time ago, reduced to an aimless harlot without an authoritative male figure to drag her by the hair. Really blurs the lines of what's a heel and what's a face.

Lock Jaw 05-19-2015 02:24 PM

Chicks dig scars, she couldn't help herself....

Heyman 05-19-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4634523)
Come on people.... he is doing fine.... Heels lose.... get over it.... no shame in losing to one of the top names of the company.... if he starts losing throw-away matches to Zack Ryder or something, then you can worry...

Thought he did great last night on his own, yelling "THERE IS NO LANAAAA"


I agree with this. How many times did a guy like Chris Jericho job to the likes of Triple H, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, etc., and yet still had a few terrific runs as a World Champ?

Savio 05-19-2015 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4634631)
I agree with this. How many times did a guy like Chris Jericho job to the likes of Triple H, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, etc., and yet still had a few terrific runs as a World Champ?

Y2J is a different type of wrestler than Rusev.

Maluco 05-19-2015 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4634631)
I agree with this. How many times did a guy like Chris Jericho job to the likes of Triple H, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, etc., and yet still had a few terrific runs as a World Champ?

I get what you're saying but Y2J was the first undisputed champion in the company. He was put over The Rock and Austin in one night. It might not have been clean, but he used it and reminded people of it for the rest of his career.

There was still enough doubt before Payback, why couldn't they have left it there? Payback just 100% confirmed that he wasn't good enough to beat Cena. 3 straight PPVs was too much. Add to that they made it clear on Raw that he did quit. Imagine how he could have used this win for his career, even if he cheated. Could have talked about it for years imo.

Emperor Smeat 05-19-2015 06:58 PM

His feud with Cena was hurt the most by having too many stipulation/gimmick matches and Cena needing to hold the US belt for a long time to rebuild its prestige.

No way the WWE was going to let Cena take a big loss in any of those matches that went completely against his character or let the "Evil foreigner" get the final laugh in a US vs World feud. Same for Rusev not getting any of the real glory for rebuilding the US title even though he helped out a lot.

Probably going to go the way Bray did post-Cena feud in having a few months of decline but still be salvageable enough to be instantly rebuilt as a threat for a future need.

VSG 05-19-2015 07:10 PM

Not that again. Why do people feel that the US Championship needed to be re-established? Rusev did a tremendous job with that before Cena got involved in the feud.

Vastardikai 05-19-2015 08:30 PM

To think, they could have had a program between Rusev and Ziggler over the affections of Lana. The match could have featured Rusev absolutely DESTROYING Ziggler, but features Dolph showing all the heart in the world and refusing to go down because he cares too much for Lana. Ultimately, Rusev wins the match but Lana actually sees what it means to have someone care about you and leaves the Bulgarian Brute for the Show Off. And the kiss could have been the pay off.

But fuck that. Let's do a meaningless thing like this.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-19-2015 08:45 PM

THERE IS NO LANA

ONLY ZUUL!

RUSEV WILL BE FINE!

RUSEV UDREA!

RUSEV MASCHKA!

Besides he's still hitting that so he's good no matter what.

Ruien 05-19-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4634631)
I agree with this. How many times did a guy like Chris Jericho job to the likes of Triple H, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, etc., and yet still had a few terrific runs as a World Champ?

But how many wrestlers have it done and their potential is put into mid/low card for the rest of their career. Rusev was not established at all. His biggest win was over Jack Swagger I think. Look how long it took Ryback to rebound.

#1-norm-fan 05-19-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4634540)
FIRST HOUR: "I care for you, Rusev! I was doing what was right for us!"

SECOND HOUR: "I"m going to make out with Dolph Ziggler."

That's what bothers me.

I'm gonna write the story for this despite WWE probably not really thinking about an explanation for that.

She spent months trying to enjoy herself and take in the adoration from the crowd and Rusev shut it down every time. When Rusev let her go, she was crushed (RUSEV CRUSHED) and then eventually realized (albeit only an hour later) she was free. She could do what she wants. So she did.

It's also possible they could go with the idea that she did it to try to make Rusev jealous.

None of this will happen because WWE. I'm just saying. That part didn't bother me because there are easy explanations to be given.

Black Widow 05-19-2015 10:10 PM

Sooner lame ass Rusev is dancing with Fandango the better.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-19-2015 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4634540)
FIRST HOUR: "I care for you, Rusev! I was doing what was right for us!"

SECOND HOUR: "I"m going to make out with Dolph Ziggler."

That's what bothers me.

They weren't boyfriend/girlfriend in story. She meant us as in business.

Anybody Thrilla 05-20-2015 11:15 AM

The Rusev/Lana relationship was NEVER made clear. If they weren't "together", then what prompted Rusev to come break it up? Surely he wouldn't have cared, right?

XL 05-20-2015 05:38 PM

Almost think that's part of the story; Lana is making Rusev realise what he's throwing away or an element of "I don't want you, but I don't want anybody else to have you either" type deal on Rusev's part.

Shit. This is all leading to a Rusev face turn and inevitable slide into midcard comedy act territory.

Simple Fan 05-20-2015 06:08 PM

I'm just mad Rusev is saying shut up now instead of Lana.

Shisen Kopf 05-21-2015 07:35 AM

RIP Vicky Venom

DAMN iNATOR 05-21-2015 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4635470)
RIP Vicky Venom

And Bobby Jaggers, of course.

Ruien 05-21-2015 10:25 AM

Rusev is going to be pinned by Dolph in the Elimination chamber and then again in the next ppv. Its going to be tragic.

Big Vic 05-21-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4635562)
Rusev is going to be pinned by Dolph in the Elimination chamber and then again in the next ppv. Its going to be tragic.

"It's ok, people have suffered pin losses before, look at chris jericho"

screech 05-21-2015 10:56 AM

Was talking to a buddy about this and he brought up a good point: Could Lana be using Ziggler here? Making him "let down his guard" so Rusev can CRUSH him?

Not that Rusev needs anyone to be softened up or anything, but it'd be a better story. He could be furious about not being able to CRUSH Cena, and resort to "mind games" and stuff.

screech 05-21-2015 10:56 AM

I don't know, I just don't want Rusev to vanish.

Ruien 05-21-2015 11:19 AM

I thought about that but it makes no sense. She would have done that to Cena if that was the case. Dolph posses no threat to Rusev as of right now. He holds no title and have been very little contact between the two. If not Cena then I could see them doing it to Ryback because he is another "big" guy. But Dolph? Really? Dude is a ant to Rusev currently.

Ruien 05-21-2015 11:21 AM

Would enjoy Rusev getting the IC title and saying it better because USA is the worst place ever.

After that the worst would happen though. This would prompt Cena to come out and win the IC title and uniting them into the USA #1 Title.


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