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Using this thread to criticize what passes for journalism in this industry

Ryan Clark

"For what it's worth, and plans are always changing, but F4Wonline.com reports that the finish for the 30-man Royal Rumble main event is written and whatever they have planned to happen is going to set up a big match at the February 21st Fastlane pay-per-view. WWE officials reportedly want Fastlane to be an A-level pay-per-view and not just another stop on the Road to WrestleMania."

The breaking news here from one of the so-called industry leaders:

1. An upcoming Network Special has a finish booked (what is the actual finish? Well that would require inside information).

2. A future Network Special will have a "big match". (More shocking news at 11)

How is this acceptable?

Jun Ross

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<font color=goldenrod>Meltzer and Alvarez are about the only people I would give any credence to with rumors.</font>

Instead of whinging about it, you could just, I dunno... not read it?

But then again, I whinge about Raw every week, skim through it in ten minutes, and then whinge some more. So whatever.

I still only read John Canton's stuff.....he doesn't suck and he is actually a reallly good guy.

Meltzer sheep

thanks, future KOTF

The quality of "real" journalism has plummeted since social media took off, it's all about getting hits, screw the integrity. Ya think an industry as ropey as wrestling should have more integrity?

That's true of every industry, sadly.

What do you call them?

there's never really been any "real" journalism in the industry. The market leaders make things up. The other sites cut and paste their made up stuff.

Dave Meltzer is pretty legit.

Keller and Meltzer are the standard bearers. Anybody else is pretty much copy and paste crap.

NotSam is pretty good for podcasting.

Sounds like Wiki's stub page for the ppv.

Background
See also: Professional wrestling
Fastlane will feature professional wrestling matches that involved wrestlers from pre-existing scripted feuds or storylines that play out on WWE's primary television programs, Raw and SmackDown. Wrestlers will portray heroes or villains as they follow a series of events that build tension and culminate in a wrestling match or series of matches.[2][3]

Meltzer sheep,,,

I think CyNick resents Dave Meltzer due to his success as a wrestling reporter

I say good for him.

My issue is with the quality. I think we should expect more. People like you have no standards I guess.

There's no way you can read the "report" I posted in this thread and say it's good journalism.

Imagine if an NFL insider said "the Super Bowl" has been worked out. It will feature two football teams".

That doesnt work. Its more like the season finale of Walking Dead has been worked out and someone will die. You cant compare journalism from a real sport to somthing that is a tv show. Your standards for wrestling journalism seem to be a little high.

His standards for wrestling journalism aren't applicable to wrestling journalism. For a guy who has clearly spent years watching wrestling he doesn't really seem to understand it at all. And he only seems to like WWE which I can only assume means he's not a wrestling fan, he's a WWE fan.

This and this. :yes:

CyNick is a guy that thinks he knows way more than he actually does.

It's doubtful he's ever actually worked in news, media or entertainment for any significantly sized company. He's likely never negotiated a television rights deal or negotiated any kind of agreement re: the rights for the public performance or broadcast of intellectual property. He's most likely never negotiated any kind of business deal larger than selling his own house or car.

He's almost positively never sat in on a board meeting or business affairs meeting for a major international company while they discussed their plans, goals, strategies and annual and quarterly results as it relates to ratings, subscriber counts, sales, profits, loss, debt, credit, revenues, assets, liabilities, etc., let alone been a part of negotiations with them or on the company's behalf.

As much as Cynick would like to think (and like US to think) that we just don't understand and that he has some greater overall understanding of the WWE's, the media, television or the entertainment industries inner business workings, ratings, finances, goals, strategies, etc. He simply doesn't.

He's simply a tool.

Actually, the idea that Fastlane will feature a big match and not just be a filler PPV is actually informative, as is wanting it to be an "A-level PPV." It could be false or change (as things do in a week-to-week industry -- imagine trying to predict who Jimmy Fallon's guests will be in three months time), but the idea of Fastlane being a big show isn't "nothing."

Of course, they're all WrestleMania to you, so you don't really extract that nugget.

So back to my original point.

What happened at the Rumble that set up the Fastlane main event?

Answer: terrible journalism

HHH won the belt. As a direct reaction to that victory, the main event of Fastlane will now be a lackluster Triple Threat that Gorgeous Dale Newstead already "wrote out".

Card subject to change.


Titties.

You might say

"But Drave, the match wasn't made until RAW. Also, I don't like titties because...."

To which I would say

"True, but there wouldn't have been the NEED to create the main event of the PPV if said result did not happen the night before."



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Rumble itself was for the title. We knew that going in. The "big scoop" from the bloggers was Rumble finish has been finalized and it will lead to something at Fastlane.

No such thing happened.

Another example of pure bullshit that comes out of these guys mouths.

Now the answer is correct.

Authority won the title which is something they wanted done ever since Reigns became a thorn to them. Storyline after the Rumble became what to do with the #1 contender spot which is what Fastlane is set to answer.

Fastlane now gets the Rumble's traditional #1 contender's match instead of the usual meaningless throw-away match because of its traditional bad position between Rumble and Mania.

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Writes itself

i read STD's blog. it's fucking awesome at how he can't spell, or form thoughts

Perhaps proofread your own writing before trying to tear someone else down for the same thing.

Re Strowman story from PWI

Or "our well placed source was full of shit but we're too stupid to know it"