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M-A-G 06-08-2022 11:28 PM

Ms. Marvel (Disney+ series) Thread
 
Didn't see a thread for this show so I figured, why not? Truth be told, I hadn't seen much advertising for this show since the initial trailer drop but I can chalk that up to not being online all the time. I had completely forgotten that today was the premier until a few days ago when I noticed one of my friends had it on her schedule for things to watch. Compared to Moon Knight, I honestly hadn't noticed much hype coming from Disney for this series. Maybe you guys had a different experience.

Anyways, saw the first episode earlier and it's fairly solid. The whole thing is already starting behind the 8-ball for me because of the change to Kamala's abilities but I suppose I can power through that. I dig the presentation like the bit where she and her friend are going through ideas for her cosplay costume or their text message exchange. It's going to need something like that to help it stand out from the rest of these shows. The whole "young person is at odds with their family and its heritage and expectations" thing has been done so many times so hopefully there's enough in the rest of the series to overcome that. I can absolutely see why young Marvel fans would be into this character, though. There's just this exuberance that permeates the screen. As a fellow Carol Danvers fan, I can appreciate Kamala's stance on this. And who wouldn't want to attend something like AvengerCon? Communists, that's who. How this will play out and how it will tie into Carol's next film remains to be seen but I'm on board so far. What say you?

XL 06-09-2022 02:45 PM

Pretty solid opener. Like the art style.

Lock Jaw 06-10-2022 12:22 AM

Was ok.

Lock Jaw 06-15-2022 11:28 PM

Watched the second episode. Was also ok. Feel like show would probably be great to people of that faith and culture, to see that representation.

M-A-G 06-16-2022 02:21 AM

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It dips into "teen drama" territory in this episode, a la Cloak & Dagger but I pretty much expected that from this series going in. The tie-in to Spider-Man: No Way Home is an interesting approach. I'm wondering if Brie Larson got roped into doing something for this show, maybe in the final episode. But, yes, I have no doubt people belonging to this culture/ethnicity are digging these scenes.

Kalyx triaD 06-16-2022 04:43 AM

This is unironically the best Disney+ MCU show so far.

Lock Jaw 06-16-2022 11:44 AM

Really want to see a Kamala, Kate, Yelena team up

M-A-G 06-16-2022 11:58 AM

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Kate and Kamala sharing a scene where they gush about their nerd fandoms would be hilarious.

Lock Jaw 06-24-2022 12:16 AM

Third episode was pretty kewl..... was hoping she would tell her family.... would be more interesting/different to have the family in on the secret over the usual keeping secrets from those you love thing.....

M-A-G 06-26-2022 10:50 AM

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I thought at the very least she was going to say something about the djinn, as in she'd just make up some excuse. I was puzzled as to why she didn't let her other friend in on it and I hope they address that. Also, who are these people that elected a high schooler onto something like a board? Still the best of the series so far even if the bad guys' coming out party seemed a bit rushed, but that's what you get when you've only got 6 episodes.

M-A-G 07-03-2022 11:44 PM

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Have to say I'm certainly surprised at where this series keeps going, what with how episode 4 ends. Although I'm not sure how much more of these secret organizations that protect this world I can buy. Plus, why bother having the bad guys get arrested in the last episode just for them to immediately escape and inexplicably locate our protagonist out of the blue? Still, credit to where it's due as I certainly never expected this is where we'd end up after watching the first episode. I can't even hazard a guess as to what these last two episodes have in store.

M-A-G 07-06-2022 02:11 PM

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OK, episode 5 kind of pulls what Moon Knight did with its fifth episode. The backstory is really well told, even though throughout the whole ordeal I'm shouting in my head asking about what's going on outside of it. The problem is things being left unexplained. Like, what power, if any allows Najma to pull off what she did, whatever it was? I still maintain six episodes isn't enough for some of these shows but then again Disney isn't looking at these to only be one shots. Hopefully this ends on a really strong note next week.

Destor 07-08-2022 08:32 PM

Watching ep1. I really like the khamala actress

Destor 07-08-2022 08:33 PM

And the visual style is very strong

Destor 07-09-2022 10:50 PM

2 eps in.i hate what theyve done with her powers but the visual style is great and the lead actress is really charming. The attempt to justify hijabs as "empowering for women" was "fucking disgusting" though.

Destor 07-10-2022 03:53 AM

Ep3. Pretty awful.



  • Id expect better camera work from monday night raw.
  • Kamalas ability to fight off a gang of trained warriors is outlandish. For how ever visually flashy these guys may be if this completely inexperienced child is able to fend them off they cant be worth much at all.
  • The introduction of the antagonist is so rushed thats its baffling. Sloppy sloppy sloppy stuff.
  • This show also seems to take entrenching into the culture of the characters in question that it abandons the plot. Its ethnostudy 1st and narrative 2nd. It being a back drop is whatever but it cant subvert the fucking plot.

Destor 07-10-2022 03:59 AM

Easily the worst hour in all of the mcu. Hopefully its just the one episode thats anathema.

Frank Drebin 07-10-2022 05:41 AM

This is probably a great show to have on in the background while you drunkenly hook up with a friend or relatives SO.

Destor 07-11-2022 10:53 PM

Ep4


Any semblance of structure has completely fallen off. We literally abandon everything we've established in the 1st 3 eps and go around the world leaving nearly all of our interpersonal conflicts behind. Oh and time travel now at the hook cause why not.


I liked her having the domino mask finally. Really confused how she's so proficient in combat inexplicably but the action sequence itself, ignoring what seems to be a substantial continuity gap, was good.

Destor 07-12-2022 07:59 PM

Just finished ep5. Gone are all the good characters and interesting visual style. Lets hope ep 6 can bring it back around. Who ever planned this season out should be shot.

M-A-G 07-13-2022 08:30 AM

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SPOILER: show
YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! CAROL DANVERS!!! MY PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED!!! :love:


Now how is it all going to tie together? Damn it, it'd better be good.

As far as the episode itself, these Marvel shows on Disney+ really seem to enjoy just throwing random chaos and whatever at the wall and hoping something sticks for their climaxes. I'm glad they brought back the little things that made the first couple of episodes fun. Outside of the post-credits bit it doesn't really end strong but I'm not particularly disappointed in any major way.

Destor 07-13-2022 05:02 PM

I really need to thank disney for making ms marvel. If i ever need an example for bad writing I'll always have this show

XL 07-13-2022 05:02 PM

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Holy shit at the mention of mutation and X-Men sting. Didn’t see that coming.

Destor 07-13-2022 05:49 PM

Its the 1st formal acknowledgement that the inhumans push was specifically because disney didnt have the xmen film rights. We all knew it but they had officially denied it. That 5 seconds formally admits it.

Destor 07-13-2022 05:49 PM

Suit looks great in action btw. Only redeemable thing from the back 4 eps

Kalyx triaD 07-13-2022 09:09 PM

What a hilarious and ironic end to the internal X-Men/Inhumans rights beef.

M-A-G 07-13-2022 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5563903)
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Holy shit at the mention of mutation and X-Men sting. Didn’t see that coming.

I honestly didn't think of that when they had that conversation. I just figured they were finally addressing her Inhuman heritage.

Destor 07-13-2022 11:15 PM

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The xmen 97 jingle should have been your clue

M-A-G 07-13-2022 11:27 PM

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Going to have to rewatch that because I must've missed it. I've only been replaying the post-credits bit because it puts a smile on my face.

M-A-G 07-13-2022 11:34 PM

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OK, I just finished checking it out again and you are indeed correct. Have to say that is an incredibly dumb direction for this character if that's what they're doing.

Destor 07-14-2022 12:05 AM

Making her an inhuman was the dumb direction. This is the one improvement the series makes over the comic

Kalyx triaD 07-14-2022 02:20 AM

Yeah while Inhuman is technically the 616 accurate origin it's only really because of the failed push for that particular sandbox. She had nothing to do with Inhuman lore otherwise. Making her a child of the atom is efficient, fitting, and formally adds the verb to the MCU.

drave 07-14-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5564163)
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The xmen 97 jingle should have been your clue




This reminded me that it is being brought back...... and I'm SO MUTHERFUCKING PUMPED!

M-A-G 07-14-2022 11:24 AM

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That, along with The Marvels, is probably the most anticipated thing coming down the pipeline next year on my end.

Fignuts 07-14-2022 12:35 PM

I remember thinking that Charlize would have been the perfect casting for captain marvel, but thought maybe she's too old.

Now that they actually brought Charlize in for a role thats going to have life for at least a few years, Im mad about it.

Fignuts 07-14-2022 12:41 PM

On topic, I thought this started really strong, stumbled hard in the middle, and then had a solid finish.

Time travel bullshit was completely unnecessary. That whole thing should have just been a flashback. It doesn't even make any sense. Its like bardock level stupid.

Only thng I can think of is that the inside the bangle is a time stone from another reality. Its energy helped trigger Kamalas mutant power.

M-A-G 07-14-2022 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5564237)
I remember thinking that Charlize would have been the perfect casting for captain marvel, but thought maybe she's too old.

Now that they actually brought Charlize in for a role thats going to have life for at least a few years, Im mad about it.

Charlize Theron would have been a great Emma Frost. Of course I always thought that was a role Heather Locklear was born to play.

Kalyx triaD 07-14-2022 06:07 PM

Theron was one of my two picks for Captain Marvel. Brie still doesn't do it for me.

Destor 07-14-2022 06:20 PM

Nataly Dormer will ways be my fan casting fpr Cap Marvel

Fignuts 07-14-2022 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5564441)
Theron was one of my two picks for Captain Marvel. Brie still doesn't do it for me.

Yeah she's too girl next door for me. Doesn't have the physical presence needed. Charlize is the first person that comes to mind for that.


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