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BigDaddyCool 08-07-2004 12:34 PM

Brock's picking fights with the Cheifs!!!!
 
MELEE-MOUTHED
Rough play reopens old wounds between Chiefs, Vikings

By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

“If you're going to get guys hurt, then there's no reason (to practice against the Vikings).”

Chiefs quarterback Trent Green, upset that tight end Billy Baber hurt his knee in Friday's morning scrimmage

http://www.kansascity.com/images/kan...080604_JFS.jpgJOHN SLEEZER/The Kansas City Star
Minnesota defensive tackle Brock Lesnar (left) put pressure on Chiefs quarterback Damon Huard during Friday's scrimmage. Lesnar, a former professional wrestler, drew the Chiefs' wrath when he sacked Huard on one play, leading to several brawls.

MANKATO, Minn. — When the Chiefs and Vikings get together in the preseason, rough play and injuries are starting to become a trend — and the Chiefs aren't happy about it.

Tight end Billy Baber became the Chiefs' latest casualty Friday when he suffered a probable season-ending knee injury. That's not to mention several hard sacks of Chiefs quarterbacks and various melees that ensued on the first day of the teams' annual scrimmages.

Baber, who was tackled after making a catch, was carted off the field because of ligament damage to his left knee. His injury came one year after Minnesota defensive back Rushen Jones tackled Chiefs wide receiver Dameane Douglas, ending his season because of a knee injury. Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil was so upset after that practice that he suggested to a Minnesota official that the Vikings should “shoot (Jones) in the head.”

That incident seemed to be long forgotten; the Chiefs and Vikings played subsequent preseason and regular-season games against one another last year without a problem. But Friday's events — which also included reserve quarterback Damon Huard getting laid out by wrestler-turned-footballer Brock Lesnar — appeared to have reopened old wounds.

Huard sat out the night practice for what the Chiefs said was a hyperextended arm caused by Lesnar's hit.

Chiefs quarterback Trent Green, his own career once interrupted by a serious preseason knee injury, voiced his frustration and questioned how much tackling should be allowed in such practices. Rules can differ about the limits for contact at joint practices.

“Somehow it's going to need to be addressed,” said the normally unflappable Green, who comforted Baber and helped him into the motorized cart that carried him from the field. “I know we talk about it all the time, but the fact of the matter is that we still keep getting guys hurt.

“If you're going to get guys hurt, then there's no reason (to practice against the Vikings). It's better work because you get to come and face another team that plays a different defense. When you get your one-on-one matchups, you're going against different personnel. It's good for the young guys because they get the opportunity to play against somebody for another team. There's a lot of good that can come from it. But if you don't control the tempo, you don't control (physical contact), then there's that risk of getting hurt.''

Green also was upset at what he believed to be excessive contact with reserve quarterbacks Todd Collins and Huard. Collins was pushed to the ground by Minnesota's Chuck Wiley after a play, and Huard was sacked hard by Lesnar, a former professional wrestling star.

Quarterbacks are never to be touched at practice. Chiefs quarterbacks wear bright yellow jerseys designating them as off-limits.

“(Those hits) were by either young guys or guys coming from other professions trying to make an impression,” Green said.

Lesnar, signed recently by the Vikings as a novelty for training camp, was a major figure in the first of two major fights during the morning practice. He tackled running back Jonathan Smith hard. Chiefs center Jonathan Ingram jumped toward Lesnar and began an impromptu wrestling match that set off an even larger melee.

“I've got to prove myself,” Lesnar said. “If it's fighting and clawing and whatever, then that's what I'm going to do.

“I'm here to play football. I'm here to make the team. I'm going 110 percent. I'm not going to dial it down That's the game. We've got full pads on. If that's the tempo they want to play, maybe my tempo is just a little different.”

The next fight started during a special-teams drill when the Chiefs' Julian Battle mugged Minnesota's Kelly Campbell out of bounds. Vermeil, who helped play peacemaker during that brawl, said the Chiefs were to blame.

“We throw a guy out of bounds and then pile on him, you're asking for problems,'' Vermeil said.

The teams had three bench-clearing brawls in the night practice. Two were precipitated by the Chiefs, irritating Vermeil.

“They don't listen to me,'' he said. “I discussed that whole routine before we ever got on the airplane of exactly how we were going to handle fight situations. They said, ‘(Forget) you coach, you don't know what you're talking about, we're going to do it anyway.' I'm (ticked).

“It's a bad reflection on me and everybody else.''

Safety Greg Wesley started one of the bench-clearing fights in the night practice when he grabbed the face mask of Minnesota running back Michael Bennett while attempting a tackle. Wesley, after apologizing to Bennett, said he was retaliating for the earlier Viking hits.

“I didn't know anything about anyone being hurt,” Wesley said. “This is football. This isn't basketball, this isn't baseball. This is a contact sport. You're going to have incidents like that.”

The teams discussed the ground rules for the joint practices. Minnesota coach Mike Tice said they called for no tackling.

“We were not going to grab anybody by the back if they got through a hole clean,” Tice said. “We weren't going to reach and grab. We were going to . . . stop the ball carrier's progress. We were not going to take anyone to the ground, which happens once in a while. We were going to stay up.”

“Every once in a while, an athlete that's not superior is going to go down. It's certainly not done purposely, and I'm sure it happened on both fields. That's why you cut people. I felt both teams worked very hard and physical. They've been in camp awhile, and we've been in camp for a while. Every once in a while a temper or two might flare, but that's nothing bad.”

There were plenty of violations to the no-tackling rule on both sides Friday. The Chiefs withheld halfback Priest Holmes from the full team drills in part to keep him from harm's way.

There seems to be plenty of that when the Chiefs practice against the Vikings.

[source, Kansas City Star]

Sephiroth 08-07-2004 12:45 PM

I can see Brock giving the F5 to somebody in the next game.

Rob 08-07-2004 12:46 PM

Good for him

BigDaddyCool 08-07-2004 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I can see Brock giving the F5 to somebody in the next game.

If Brock does that, then come back to WWE, this will have been the great work in wrestling history since Andy Kuaffman.

Sephiroth 08-07-2004 12:58 PM

:lol: Yeah, then he would be the man.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-07-2004 01:04 PM

What a dickhead

Practice Heros are fucking clowns

YOUR Hero 08-07-2004 01:51 PM

This story only reinforces my opinion that Brock is a fuckhead.

Loose Cannon 08-07-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
What a dickhead

Practice Heros are fucking clowns

Not a big fan of the movie Rudy huh?

KingofOldSchool 08-07-2004 01:55 PM

LOL F5 on Priest Homes

Y2Ant 08-07-2004 01:57 PM

LOL

ROFL @ his jersey number too

Rob 08-07-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Not a big fan of the movie Rudy huh?

Lesnar ate Rudy

YOUR Hero 08-07-2004 02:10 PM

It's one thing to practice hard, it's another to start fights.

KingofOldSchool 08-07-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Lesnar ate Rudy

Lesnar saw Rudy updating his fantasy team.

KingofOldSchool 08-07-2004 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool

Lesnar: BOOOO!

Huard: Hocus Pocus...in form of....a professional wrestler!

Gonzo 08-07-2004 03:35 PM

Rudy was fucking tiny, he couldn't have hurt anyone if he had a gun...

Brock, on the other hand is huge.

The Naitch 08-07-2004 04:09 PM

:rofl: :rofl: Jersey number. Reminds me of those teenagers who hang out at the 7-11 with a 69 on their jersey because it's the cool number to have

Sephiroth 08-07-2004 05:14 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/images/kan...080604_JFS.jpg
LOL when i see that pic, i think about this:
Brock: F5! F5! F5!
Huard: You tapped out! You tapped out! :shifty: * Huard runs away *

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-07-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Not a big fan of the movie Rudy huh?

Rudy isn't a practice hero

Practice heros are guys who sack QBs during practice, or break up screen passes when they were already told it was coming and stuff like that

Loose Cannon 08-07-2004 07:13 PM

He did that though in the movie, remember?

The QB threw a fit when he did that and he even said something to the coach along the lines of being a "practice hero."

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-07-2004 09:43 PM

I guess I dont remember lol

BigDaddyCool 08-08-2004 01:59 AM

Quick follow up, 2 more fights broke out in this morning's practices bring up a grand total of 5 brawls. That is ridiculus.

AlphaBean 08-08-2004 02:34 AM

LOL

Mike Tice loves Lesnar.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-08-2004 03:05 AM

Giants/Jets had a fight too it looked like

Was watching it on SportsCenter then all of a sudden it just cut to Andy Roddick playing tennis, there was like a 8 second pause before anyone said anything. It was the most fucked up SportsCenter moment i have seen in a while lol

Loose Cannon 08-08-2004 03:11 AM

lol, I was watching it too just now, but had mute on cause I was reading something, so I missed it. Yeah, Jets/Giants got into a brawl and the coaches had to come break it up. I don't even know what happened.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-08-2004 03:21 AM

Nobody was tackling or anything though, just like 1st contact play is over. Normal preseason routine, then you got Leasner over there sacking QBs and shit hahaha I cant blame him tho he is trying to do anything to stand out and make the team I guess.

AlphaBean 08-08-2004 03:25 AM

They say Tice smirks whenever Brock is mentioned. It's a mentality Tice likes. Brock might make the team and be a special teams ace and Tice's pet.

In other news, my HS classmate Ryan Hoag might make #5 WR on the Vikings. That's awesome. I'm happy for him. To finally come home after being Mister Irrelevant. Knock on wood he stays healthy. :cool:

Loose Cannon 08-08-2004 03:32 AM

Hey, if Brock's going out, he's going out with most sacks in a preseason :naughty:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-08-2004 03:38 AM

Yeah I want to check him out in a preseason game, hopefully one of the Vikings game is nationally televised/or they are playing the Patriots at some point in the preseason

AlphaBean 08-08-2004 03:47 AM

Teach Brock how to hold a football and let him rush it up the middle. I wonder if anyone would take him down.

AlphaBean 08-08-2004 03:48 AM

Imagine FB #69 coming right at you. A feared Strong Safety pulling a Deion Sanders, as the HB gets an armed escort all the way into the end zone. :D

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-08-2004 03:50 AM

Or a linebacker running him down in the backfield when no hole opens up

AlphaBean 08-08-2004 03:53 AM

:roll:

If Brock could hold a football, he would be a 1,000 yard rusher with MN's line. :rant:

Heyman 08-08-2004 03:59 AM

Let's go Lesnar! *clap clap clap clap clap* Let's go Lesnar! *clap clap clap clap clap*

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-08-2004 04:00 AM

If he wants to make it to the NFL I think sticking to defensive line would be his best bet. I don't think he would succed as a running back or fullback. I want to see him play though, see how "far off" he really is. They showed him for like 2 seconds on SportsCenter earlier, but it was just because of the fight. Didn't really show "game action"

The Outlaw 08-10-2004 01:46 AM

Yeah, good for him. I never really understand when guys get mad at other guys for going full speed and trying to do the best that they can. It only makes the team better.

This isn't golf. This is a contact sport.

MoRcHeEbA 08-10-2004 02:07 AM

imagine if Tiger Woods was in his back swing and some 250 pound linebacker just decked him... lol think of the ratings :love:

The Outlaw 08-10-2004 02:20 AM

LOL hilarious

BCWWF 08-10-2004 03:16 AM

If you've ever read an article about him, he's a complete dickhead, but if you look at him through an athletic standpoint only he is like the perfect man. I think he will pull things together and be decent because of his power and agility, and of course because the Vikes are my team.

The Outlaw 08-10-2004 03:25 AM

How is he a complete dickhead?

BCWWF 08-10-2004 03:32 AM

How is he not a complete dickhead?


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