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The Miz

09-30-2004 10:15 PM

TPWW AL CY YOUNG VOTING

CAST YR VOTES

BCWWF

09-30-2004 10:36 PM

Mmmm...I choose Darryl May...

Its funny because Johan wasn't even an all-star. His first half wasn't all star caliber and he still ended up with 20 wins, sub 2 era, 300+ K's, sub 200 opp batting ave. Damn. Just don't choke in the playoffs.

Loose Cannon

09-30-2004 10:39 PM

Santana. Done. Enough said.

Gertner

09-30-2004 11:31 PM

I guess the fact that Hentgan didn't play in the second half got him disqualified eh?

Jesus Shuttlesworth

10-01-2004 12:38 AM

Santana with Schilling in 2nd Mulder in 3rd

BCWWF

10-01-2004 12:53 AM

Lol, somebody voted for Pedro

DegenerationY

10-01-2004 01:06 AM

Definitely has to be Santana. No question about it.

Supreme Olajuwon

10-01-2004 01:31 AM

easiest of all of them

Azriel

10-01-2004 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Santana. Done. Enough said.

What he said

John la Rock

10-01-2004 04:05 AM

Schilling

VonErich Lives

10-01-2004 04:08 AM

Went Schill on this... touch call, Santana has has a great year... best 2nd half of any pitcher better... but was watching a breakdown of teams faced, as the Sox faced better teams then Minnesota...

How it broke down for each player I didn't see, but I can look into later.

YOUR Hero

10-01-2004 11:19 AM

Still saying Santana, but Schilling is really been great down the stretch.

BCWWF

10-01-2004 01:15 PM

Schilling had some of those random stats, like "Most wins coming off a Red Sox loss" and stuff..I dunno I read that in Gammons' column.

I still want to know who these guys voting for Pedro are?

MVP	10-01-2004 03:01 PM

As a Red Sox fan I'd pick Schilling, but Santana deserves it more.

Yashamaga

10-01-2004 04:16 PM

As a Red Sox fan, I picked Santana.

You just can't argue. Any other year it would have been Curt's :(

The Miz

10-02-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most

Ol Dirty Dastard

10-02-2004 02:35 PM

I can never take any analysis VEL does seriously. He's always trying too hard to be a devil's advocate.

VonErich Lives

10-02-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz

How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most

Doesn't matter since I don't factor wins into the stats...

I factor what a pitcher controls, ERA, Hits, Walks, K's, pitching stats...

wins are nice, saying you have a 20 game winner is nice... But who would you rather have...

20-2 4.58 ERA
8-12 2.12 ERA

2nd guy just looks like a great pitcher on a bad team.

VonErich Lives

10-02-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Bang Newstead

I can never take any analysis VEL does seriously. He's always trying too hard to be a devil's advocate.

Example?

The Miz

10-02-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

WTF? You'd take the second guy. 1st guy is a below average pitcher on an outstanding team, 2nd guy is an outstanding pitcher on a below average team. If I'm building a team I'd obviously rather have the second guy.

If the Twins and Red Sox flip flopped the runs they scored for Schilling and Santana, it'd be interesting to see the records. I can assure you Santana would have in the neighborhood of 10 more wins than Schilling.

Evil Vito

10-02-2004 07:51 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Santana, EASILY</font>

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