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GODSON 11-03-2004 09:37 PM

Nidia,Gail and Chuck is fired
 
From WWE.com

Gial Kim, Chuck Palumbo, Nidia released


The WWE released Gail Kim, Chuck Palumbo and Nidia from their contracts today. We wish them the best in their future endeavors.

What Would Kevin Do? 11-03-2004 09:39 PM

Why Gail Kim? She was a good asset to the women's division, and was on Raw last Monday. THe other two I can pretty much understand, but why Gail???

Jonster 11-03-2004 09:39 PM

Bloody heck, they're dropping like flies that have some sort of fly killing disease that's very contageous to flies about to die.

Fryza 11-03-2004 09:41 PM

Well, Nidia's boob job was in vain I see..

Poor Gail though, that sucks ass. :(

DMI 11-03-2004 09:43 PM

Gail was one of my favorites on Raw :mad:

Loose Cannon 11-03-2004 09:44 PM

LOL. Holy shit. Biggest roster shuffle I've ever seen

GODSON 11-03-2004 09:45 PM

Chuck was a good young guy who never got a chance. He made the tag team with Gunn worked,then they dropped that. FBI was a good team, but they stop pushing them. They send him to Raw and he never got a chance. Yet, Visera appear on Raw and Smackdown in big matches. Val Venis is next,sadly.

M-A-G 11-03-2004 09:49 PM

Big whoop.

BigDaddyCool 11-03-2004 09:49 PM

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

Nidia was starting to pick up some steam I thought, and Gail Kim is pretty decent too. I don't really give a shit about chuck.

John la Rock 11-03-2004 09:49 PM

Can't say I really care about any of them. They all sucked and I'm glad they're gone

Hardkore Kidd J 11-03-2004 09:50 PM

I thought this was a joke about how much WWE is firing people when I first read the title. But I am very disappointed to find out it's not. :nono: Good luck in TNA.

Loose Cannon 11-03-2004 09:53 PM

HMMMM, something smells here. You know, there was something in the Observer I was reading yesterday (I'll post the exact quote later) that was saying how the WWE should just release some of thier lower talent and let TNA pick them up in order for TNA to get recognizable names. The main idea discussed in that section was about how the WWE needs competition.

Hardkore Kidd J 11-03-2004 09:59 PM

You make a valid point LC. :y:

Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2004 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HMMMM, something smells here. You know, there was something in the Observer I was reading yesterday (I'll post the exact quote later) that was saying how the WWE should just release some of thier lower talent and let TNA pick them up in order for TNA to get recognizable names. The main idea discussed in that section was about how the WWE needs competition.

I was just thinking that it seems the WWE is setting up something for TNA to use.

We just saw Gail Kim get involved in RAW/Survivor Series in a minor (yet important) way, and now she's shipped off? Maybe Lita really is a walking Kiss of Death?

Palumbo was starting to get over at house shows, and now he's getting released because he's been used in about 6 different gimmicks by my count (tag team with Sean O'Haire (now released), as nice guy with Billy (now released), homosexual publicity stunt with Billy (now released), tough guy with Billy (now released), FBI with Johnny Stamboli & Nunzio and Custom Chucky P. It wouldn't surprise me if Johnny & Nunzio get released now that it seems Chuck's WWE resume is being erased.

Nidia was just getting started in the women's division. It shocks me that the winner of one of the WWE's contests is gone, as is the second diva in one day, and one that was starting to come along as a decent wrestler at that. The "WWE's Hitlist" is growing, and I fear for the following superstars:

Val Venis
Steven Richards
Nunzio
Johnny Stamboli
Garrison Cade
Christopher Nowinski
Funaki
Soctty 2 Hotty
Shannon Moore
Akio
Rodney Mack
Jazz
Rhyno (Would it surprise anyone?)
Tajiri (Would it surprise anyone?)
Dawn Marie (Unless she does Playboy)
Miss Jackie (Unless she does Playboy)
Rico
Charlie Haas
Mark Henry
Orlando Jordan
Paul London (Sadly)

The last few on the list are longshots, but it really wouldn't surprise me. Maybe even Matt Hardy, which I would have doubted a few minutes ago. I really hope TNA manages to do something with this cascade of former WWE talent. It seems the WWE are begging for competition.

Mr. JL 11-03-2004 10:07 PM

Gail Kim could actually wrestle.

Funky Fly 11-03-2004 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL
Gail Kim could actually wrestle.

Yeah, what gives? She's a better submission wrestler than llike 75% of the men's locker room and the best high flyer of the women. She was a pretty good brawler too. If she were a guy she would be Shelton Benjamin.

Blue Demon 11-03-2004 10:16 PM

:wtf: as a famous wrestler often says "wassupwitdat?!?!?!?"

Shadow 11-03-2004 10:20 PM

*applauds*

Hey WWE, here's a gun. It's a quicker way of shooting yourself in the foot!

Dark Kane 11-03-2004 10:21 PM

6 releases in one week. This is horrible. :(

Vince must be getting low on cash.

M-A-G 11-03-2004 10:27 PM

He's doing what anyone of us would do in his situation. Ever played simulators?

Watson 11-03-2004 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=GODSON]

Nidia released

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:'(

Loose Cannon 11-03-2004 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheltonRules
6 releases in one week. This is horrible. :(

Vince must be getting low on cash.

well if they don't appeal to the audience, why keep them around. It seems as though the WWE is starting to concentrate on developmental talents/other indy talents, so they can create new stars and characters.

Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2004 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-A-G
He's doing what anyone of us would do in his situation. Ever played simulators?

That is a good point. The WWE is doing what needs to be done, I just hope this doesn't discourage the guys/gals being released. I don't see the point in keeping Stacy Keibler & Dawn Marie, but releasing Gail Kim & Nidia. I guess the WWE is trying to shed it's "you had/have a future, but now we want to give new people a turn" wrestlers, which means TNA could really benefit from this situation if they handle this right.

Gail Kim could start a women's division there, and hold the title for a long time, until we see the division start to build-up. Maybe Kim could answer Trinity's challenge at the PPV? Nidia could also work somewhere as a valet, or a wrestler. Chuck Palumbo & Sean O'Haire could work in the tag division there. Maybe a stable with Billy Gunn? A-Train could be a real asset to the company if used right, and if Test doesn't want to return to the WWE, he could always go to TNA, where the sky is the limit for this guy.

Dark Kane 11-03-2004 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
well if they don't appeal to the audience, why keep them around. It seems as though the WWE is starting to concentrate on developmental talents/other indy talents, so they can create new stars and characters.

That's not a fact, it's an opinion of yours.

Gail Kim was just starting to get a huge fan base too.

And I'm sure Chuck and Nidia still have fans that want to keep them around.

Assuming things. Bad. :n:

MVP 11-03-2004 10:40 PM

This just in! Vince McMahon offered to host the next season of The Apprentice.

Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2004 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheltonRules
That's not a fact, it's an opinion of yours.

Gail Kim was just starting to get a huge fan base too.

And I'm sure Chuck and Nidia still have fans that want to keep them around.

Assuming things. Bad. :n:

But they're no Chris Jericho, or even no Matt Hardy. Very few people will notice them gone.

Looking at the pros of this situation, at least we might have new talent brought in, and the older talent may now be motivated to put in 110% now that criteria has been stepped up, and there is more room for wrestlers to develope. So far the release ratio has been 5:1 with RAW losing five superstars, and SmackDown! losing one inactive superstar. I wonder if we will see some laybacks on SmackDown!, or if they're just going to use them better.

samichna 11-03-2004 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HMMMM, something smells here. You know, there was something in the Observer I was reading yesterday (I'll post the exact quote later) that was saying how the WWE should just release some of thier lower talent and let TNA pick them up in order for TNA to get recognizable names. The main idea discussed in that section was about how the WWE needs competition.

Yeah damn, maybe.

Dark Kane 11-03-2004 10:46 PM

For the record, Vince and the WWE does not discuss the reasons behind releases/firings since it's no one elses bussiness but their own.

The reasons for firings/releases are only made public when some paparazzi wrestling reporter sneaks the news from backstage. Just like the reason for Test was leaked to the net (although you can't always believe wrestling news on the internet, they could be fake rumours).

Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2004 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheltonRules
For the record, Vince and the WWE does not discuss the reasons behind releases/firings since it's no one elses bussiness but their own.

The reasons for firings/releases are only made public when some paparazzi wrestling reporter sneaks the news from backstage. Just like the reason for Test was leaked to the net (although you can't always believe wrestling news on the internet, they could be fake rumours).

I think that finance would be an issue, and those that are released might even give us more detail on why they were dropped from the WWE. I don't know American law that well, but aren't those that are fired have rights for a rational explaination?

Who knows, maybe the dress code violation penalties have become a death sentence?

Mayo 11-03-2004 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HMMMM, something smells here. You know, there was something in the Observer I was reading yesterday (I'll post the exact quote later) that was saying how the WWE should just release some of thier lower talent and let TNA pick them up in order for TNA to get recognizable names. The main idea discussed in that section was about how the WWE needs competition.

See, that is kind of an iffy situation for the WWE. If they allow TNA to gain enough popularity and become a huge threat, then that would obviously not be good for business. But since things are getting kind of stale, competition could make wrestling thrive like it did in the Monday Night Wars days. In my opinion, I think that Vince and Co. should try to get some better writers and push some talented wrestlers rather than try to build up a rival company.

Splaya 11-03-2004 11:09 PM

You know what would rule all.

"From WWE.com

Today, World Wrestling Entertainment and Paul Lavasque parted ways. We wish Paul in all that he might do"


I swear I will cry if this happens.

Excellance of Execution 11-03-2004 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayo
See, that is kind of an iffy situation for the WWE. If they allow TNA to gain enough popularity and become a huge threat, then that would obviously not be good for business. But since things are getting kind of stale, competition could make wrestling thrive like it did in the Monday Night Wars days. In my opinion, I think that Vince and Co. should try to get some better writers and push some talented wrestlers rather than try to build up a rival company.

I disagree. Remember back when WCW was running strong, you would be watching Raw or Nitro, then all the sudden someone from the rival promotion would show up out of the blue. Mark out moments like that keep people talking and lot's of people watching. Having a rival promotion build up star's, then signing them to your promotion to have some fresh dream matches keep's thing's interesting and doesn't allow the product to get stale. When WCW was whipping the WWE'S ass at the beginning of the monday night war's, business was down for the WWE. But once they realized, that if they had good storylines and actually put forth a good show they did good. For awhile WCW and the WWE where both doing very well and IMO it was because the competition between the two drove each other to put out the best show's they could.

VJW 11-03-2004 11:17 PM

WTF? Gail Kim was great!

Mayo 11-03-2004 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excellance of Execution
I disagree. Remember back when WCW was running strong, you would be watching Raw or Nitro, then all the sudden someone from the rival promotion would show up out of the blue. Mark out moments like that keep people talking and lot's of people watching. Having a rival promotion build up star's, then signing them to your promotion to have some fresh dream matches keep's thing's interesting and doesn't allow the product to get stale. When WCW was whipping the WWE'S ass at the beginning of the monday night war's, business was down for the WWE. But once they realized, that if they had good storylines and actually put forth a good show they did good. For awhile WCW and the WWE where both doing very well and IMO it was because the competition between the two drove each other to put out the best show's they could.

No fucking kidding.

Except what happens if it backfires and you end up out of business? Ever think about that? It's not exactly the best strategy for a businessman.

The CyNick 11-03-2004 11:30 PM

Linda, Shane and Steph are more likely to be fired than HHH.

Not much of a loss in the talent.

Nidia is useless, she doesn't have much talent in the ring, and they already have enough chicks who can just stand there and look pretty.

Gail Kim is a little suprising, but then again they have too many heel girls on RAW. Jazz is more unique, Molly has much more talent, and Trish is untouchable. Looks like her and Nidia are getting cut so that Christy's cheque doesn't bounce.

As for why girls like Stacy are still around, its simple, they are marketable. Gail is just another 'decent' worker, but she's not really very special from a character standpoint. Stacy at least has the long legs thing going for her.

Palumbo is no shock to me. I cant believe he's survived this long. I read someone say Chuck was getting over, when was this? I've seen him on Heat and I cant get past his shoes. And what was his gimmick anyway?

This is a situation where WWE sees that business continues to head south, so they have to trim the fat in order to maintain their profitablility. Wait till they find out what Mania does, then there will be some real cuts.

Thriller 11-03-2004 11:33 PM

Maybe the reason for all the cuts is to make room to bring the brands back together.

Loose Cannon 11-03-2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheltonRules
That's not a fact, it's an opinion of yours.

Gail Kim was just starting to get a huge fan base too.

And I'm sure Chuck and Nidia still have fans that want to keep them around.

Assuming things. Bad. :n:

WTF is wrong with you? I am really starting to get sick of you saying shit to everyone just to annoy them. Fuck off.

Those 3 "superstars" don't make any money and don't draw any fans. You know they're are things called "numbers" and they're are actual documents that show who is drawing, who is gaining fans during segments, who is selling merchendise, who is selling tickets. You need to go back to school or something and take a business class because you are about as ignorant as they come.

Yeah, 3 or 4 fans ain't going to do anything buddy. Maybe you like them, but your not the majority here. Or maybe in your own world you are.

Loose Cannon 11-03-2004 11:45 PM

Basically what CyNick said up there is exactly why.

And to those of you saying WWE wrestlers going to TNA would backfire and make the WWE go out of business :lol: I think you need to take a look at the business of TNA and the WWE. Let's stop for a minute and think. TNA is in no way and WILL NEVER BE as high as the WWE. WWE are ahead of them by light years and these guys WWE realesed won't bring in such great business for TNA that the WWE will be in trouble.

The Naitch 11-03-2004 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HMMMM, something smells here. You know, there was something in the Observer I was reading yesterday (I'll post the exact quote later) that was saying how the WWE should just release some of thier lower talent and let TNA pick them up in order for TNA to get recognizable names. The main idea discussed in that section was about how the WWE needs competition.

I'm all for that idea :y:

But TNA already has The Cock, MVP and yourself. :kiss: ;)

The CyNick 11-03-2004 11:56 PM

I think they could probably benefit from gettign Gunn, just because he could team up with Road Dogg, and that might entertain some people.

But they also have to weary of taking on a bunch of WWE castaways just because they have been on WWE TV. I think they are better off trying to make fresh new stars, rather than spending that same money on guys who will never draw anyway. Of course by that logic, Jarrett should be gone, but thats another story.


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