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ilt_undertaker 01-05-2004 05:11 PM

Worst Heel....
 
<font color=Silver> I know this topic has been discussed before, and people most likely think that SCSA or Goldberg are the worst heels ever. But mostly everybody forgets one other person. IMO, the worst heel ever has to be...................

Jim "JR" Ross. I remember when he had to leave b/c of that Bells Parsley(sp?) thing he has, and Micheal Cole took over his spot. When JR came back, he decided to turn heel, and i remember when he had his own booth right in front of "The King" and "The Fag". I dont remember im getting any heel heat from the crowd, and he turned face again.

Opinoins and corrections are welcome.

Honorable mention as worst heel....... Matt Hardy</font>

Sickboy 01-05-2004 05:19 PM

3 Count... weren't they heels at some point?

Disturbed316 01-05-2004 05:19 PM

Matt Hardy as a heel rules

JR's was stupid

moshingfreak 01-05-2004 05:27 PM

Mike Awesome as anything sucks, especially in ECW

John la Rock 01-05-2004 05:36 PM

I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn :shifty: in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan :n:

Krow 01-05-2004 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ilt_undertaker
<font color=Silver> Jim "JR" Ross. I remember when he had to leave b/c of that Bells Parsley(sp?) thing he has...</font>

Heh...Bells Parsley...Would you like a Tonic-Clonic seizure with that? :rofl: I crack me up.

Anyway, I thought that the whole Sting heel turn was a flop. If you can even call it a turn. JR's isn't worthy of consideration. The best thing we got out of it? Fake Razor. Ha! Pudgy bastard.

:shifty:

Don't do drugs, kids.

MVP 01-05-2004 06:24 PM

I hated Stephanie McMahon as a heel. She got stale very quickly with her annoying, screeching voice, and her several appearances on each show. The Invasion Angle was the final straw for me. Luckily she redeemed herself when she was the face GM of Smackdown. Now I don't find her as bad.

The Coach is a dishonorable mention to this category for the same reasons as Stephanie, luckily he's not on TV as much anymore.

ilt_undertaker 01-05-2004 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock
I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn :shifty: in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan :n:

I hate Goldberg, and when did Kidman fued w/ Hogan? It must have sucked if I dont remember.

ilt_undertaker 01-05-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MVP
I hated Stephanie McMahon as a heel. She got stale very quickly with her annoying, screeching voice, and her several appearances on each show. The Invasion Angle was the final straw for me. Luckily she redeemed herself when she was the face GM of Smackdown. Now I don't find her as bad.

The Coach is a dishonorable mention to this category for the same reasons as Stephanie, luckily he's not on TV as much anymore.

I like the Coach as a heel, i agree with you about Steph.

John la Rock 01-05-2004 06:39 PM

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I hate Goldberg, and when did Kidman fued w/ Hogan? It must have sucked if I dont remember

They feuded in WCW during the New Blood vs Millionaires Club crap angle. likely the company was bought shortly after

Fryza 01-05-2004 06:41 PM

Austin's Alliance heel.
Al Snow/Coach.
Goldberg.
Triple H as of the last year or two.
JR.

John la Rock 01-05-2004 06:45 PM

When did Jim Ross turn heel?

ilt_undertaker 01-05-2004 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock
When did Jim Ross turn heel?

<font color=Silver>I dont remember the exact year, ill say between 1995-1998</font>

Head 01-05-2004 07:04 PM

XANTA CLAWS

Innovator 01-05-2004 08:31 PM

Austin's heel turn had promise until the whole Alliance angle kicked in. He was coming off as a paranoid guy who only wanted the title. Then the Alliance came and it all went to hell.

BigGammy v1.0 01-05-2004 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock
I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn :shifty: in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan :n:

Yeah, Goldberg's heel turn sucked. And that was meant to be a surprise that would change the face of sports entertainment.

Kane Knight 01-05-2004 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jbone829
Austin's heel turn had promise until the whole Alliance angle kicked in. He was coming off as a paranoid guy who only wanted the title. Then the Alliance came and it all went to hell.

That whole "hugging" thing was hilarious. mostly in a "Holy Shit! They were dumb enough to think that would make him a heel????" Sense, but still.

FakeLaser 01-05-2004 09:18 PM

I thought Austin was a great heel. It's not his fault that he was booked to make the Alliance look like bitches.

Fox 01-05-2004 09:37 PM

I agree that Austin was a pretty good heel. His reprimanding of the Alliance superstars was some good stuff. Yelling at them individually about their mistakes and giving them stunners because they pissed him off. And "WHAT?!" was gold until the crowd started chanting it.

Heel Billy Kidman during the New Blood vs. Millionaire's Club angle was ridiculous. The only reason he was over before was because he was a great athlete, and was like a "nice kid" who you couldn't help but feel for. When they turned him and joined him up with Torrie Wilson, he simply didn't have enough attitude to pull off a heel gimmick. He just seemed like a kid trying too hard to be a bad ass.

The Rikishi heel turn after the "Who Hit Austin?" angle was shit. I didn't hate him, I didn't like him, I just wanted him off of my TV.

Vastardikai 01-05-2004 09:47 PM

The Sting Heel turn failed for two reasons:

1. Steve couldn't work the character as a heel.

2. Heel Sting is Sacriledge, and it was a BLATANT attempt to make sure Hogan was face (when Hogan ran in to save Benoit when he faced Sting from heel Sting and Flexy Lexy, the fans IMMEDIATELY booed Hogan)

Corkscrewed 01-06-2004 02:25 AM

Billy Kidman. He just didn't have it.

targo_the_sho_stopa 01-06-2004 01:09 PM

i think mention should go to Goldust, or should I say The Artist Formerly Known As Goldust, also, Kidman-WCW, also Hardyz when they did The New Brood stuff, they really couldn't get over the poor bastards, i mean as if anyone would care that they beat the living snot outta Mike Hayes, also, Matt's original heel turn at Armageddon 2001(?) then the Hardyz and Lita got together again for the Rumble cos it got so stale

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2004 04:38 PM

Matt Hardy- When he remained "Xtreme", Mattitude is perhaps the best heel turn ever.

Michael Cole- He made a horrible heel when he commentated on either Heat or Velocity.

Tajiri- His first heel turn, where he put Torrie in the geisha.

Booker T- His run with the Alliance, it seemed stale in parts.

ilt_undertaker 01-06-2004 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
Michael Cole- He made a horrible heel when he commentated on either Heat or Velocity.

<font color=Silver> What year? I dont remember Cole being a heel</font>

natureboycv 01-06-2004 05:20 PM

<font color=8307ff><b>Stone Cold is a good heel, he just got crap booking during the alliance and all that stuff.</font></b>

sexymanalive 01-06-2004 06:20 PM

the worest heel i would say would be steph when she was GM makeing all those horrible macthing we have her to blmae for how bad smackdown is

ilt_undertaker 01-06-2004 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sexymanalive
the worest heel i would say would be steph when she was GM makeing all those horrible macthing we have her to blmae for how bad smackdown is

<font color=Silver> Bless your heart. Stephanie was a FACE while playing the GM of SmackDown! Happy Belated Birthday!</font>

ColdwaVer 01-06-2004 06:49 PM

Bob Backlund's raving lunatic bit complete with presidential bid, the Goodfather, and Bret Hart's anti-American run come to mind.

6to1 01-06-2004 06:50 PM

it would have to be goldberg, then the lame atempt to make him face again, when they bring in beth and all of a suden nash was the heel.

ilt_undertaker 01-06-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdwaVer
Bob Backlund's raving lunatic bit complete with presidential bid, the Goodfather, and Bret Hart's anti-American run come to mind.

<font color=Silver>I liked The UnAmericans until they tried to burn the U.S. Flag at MSG, and i forgot about the GoodFather, he was a really bad heel</font>

Pepsi Man 01-06-2004 10:11 PM

I liked both of JR's turns. They made me laugh. :$

targo_the_sho_stopa 01-07-2004 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ilt_undertaker
<font color=Silver>I liked The UnAmericans until they tried to burn the U.S. Flag at MSG

Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there

targo_the_sho_stopa 01-07-2004 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
Matt Hardy- When he remained "Xtreme", Mattitude is perhaps the best heel turn ever.

Yes, Mattitude was and is great, I was on about his original heel turn and the original Hardyz split, around Vengeance 2001 when they had the Undisputed title tournament thing and Lita was guest ref and stuff, shit heel turn.

Sephiroth 01-07-2004 06:39 AM

Coah rules as heel :y: Billy Kidman sucked as Heel they may kill him.

Pepsi Man 01-07-2004 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targo_the_sho_stopa
Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there

Yeah, they were known as the Hart Foundation.

Mikey 01-07-2004 10:43 AM

Sting
Goldberg

Azriel 01-07-2004 01:54 PM

Goldberg and Rikishi.

Kane Knight 01-07-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targo_the_sho_stopa
Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there

News flash: As someone already pointed out, the Hart Foundation was never called the "UnAmericans."

Krow 01-07-2004 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Yeah, they were known as the Hart Foundation.

"New" Hart Foundation? I can't remember. I know Owen and Neidhart, back when they wore the crazy checkered stuff, were "The New Foundation" for a few...days. Then Owen paired up with Koko B. Ware and did something else. So maybe I'm just smashing names together for the halibut.

Savio 01-07-2004 04:00 PM

Goodfather


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