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Old 01-05-2004, 05:11 PM   #1
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I know this topic has been discussed before, and people most likely think that SCSA or Goldberg are the worst heels ever. But mostly everybody forgets one other person. IMO, the worst heel ever has to be...................

Jim "JR" Ross. I remember when he had to leave b/c of that Bells Parsley(sp?) thing he has, and Micheal Cole took over his spot. When JR came back, he decided to turn heel, and i remember when he had his own booth right in front of "The King" and "The Fag". I dont remember im getting any heel heat from the crowd, and he turned face again.

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Honorable mention as worst heel....... Matt Hardy
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:19 PM   #2
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3 Count... weren't they heels at some point?
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:19 PM   #3
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Matt Hardy as a heel rules

JR's was stupid
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:27 PM   #4
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:36 PM   #5
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I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan
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Old 01-05-2004, 05:52 PM   #6
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Jim "JR" Ross. I remember when he had to leave b/c of that Bells Parsley(sp?) thing he has...
Heh...Bells Parsley...Would you like a Tonic-Clonic seizure with that? I crack me up.

Anyway, I thought that the whole Sting heel turn was a flop. If you can even call it a turn. JR's isn't worthy of consideration. The best thing we got out of it? Fake Razor. Ha! Pudgy bastard.



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Old 01-05-2004, 06:24 PM   #7
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I hated Stephanie McMahon as a heel. She got stale very quickly with her annoying, screeching voice, and her several appearances on each show. The Invasion Angle was the final straw for me. Luckily she redeemed herself when she was the face GM of Smackdown. Now I don't find her as bad.

The Coach is a dishonorable mention to this category for the same reasons as Stephanie, luckily he's not on TV as much anymore.
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:27 PM   #8
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I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan
I hate Goldberg, and when did Kidman fued w/ Hogan? It must have sucked if I dont remember.
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:30 PM   #9
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I hated Stephanie McMahon as a heel. She got stale very quickly with her annoying, screeching voice, and her several appearances on each show. The Invasion Angle was the final straw for me. Luckily she redeemed herself when she was the face GM of Smackdown. Now I don't find her as bad.

The Coach is a dishonorable mention to this category for the same reasons as Stephanie, luckily he's not on TV as much anymore.
I like the Coach as a heel, i agree with you about Steph.
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:39 PM   #10
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I hate Goldberg, and when did Kidman fued w/ Hogan? It must have sucked if I dont remember

They feuded in WCW during the New Blood vs Millionaires Club crap angle. likely the company was bought shortly after
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:41 PM   #11
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Austin's Alliance heel.
Al Snow/Coach.
Goldberg.
Triple H as of the last year or two.
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Old 01-05-2004, 06:45 PM   #12
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Old 01-05-2004, 07:03 PM   #13
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When did Jim Ross turn heel?
I dont remember the exact year, ill say between 1995-1998
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Old 01-05-2004, 07:04 PM   #14
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Old 01-05-2004, 08:31 PM   #15
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Austin's heel turn had promise until the whole Alliance angle kicked in. He was coming off as a paranoid guy who only wanted the title. Then the Alliance came and it all went to hell.
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:07 PM   #16
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I say that Goldberg's HUGE heel turn in WCW was horrible. Also Billy Kidman is an honorable mention during his feud with Hulk Hogan
Yeah, Goldberg's heel turn sucked. And that was meant to be a surprise that would change the face of sports entertainment.
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:08 PM   #17
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Austin's heel turn had promise until the whole Alliance angle kicked in. He was coming off as a paranoid guy who only wanted the title. Then the Alliance came and it all went to hell.
That whole "hugging" thing was hilarious. mostly in a "Holy Shit! They were dumb enough to think that would make him a heel????" Sense, but still.
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:18 PM   #18
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I thought Austin was a great heel. It's not his fault that he was booked to make the Alliance look like bitches.
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:37 PM   #19
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I agree that Austin was a pretty good heel. His reprimanding of the Alliance superstars was some good stuff. Yelling at them individually about their mistakes and giving them stunners because they pissed him off. And "WHAT?!" was gold until the crowd started chanting it.

Heel Billy Kidman during the New Blood vs. Millionaire's Club angle was ridiculous. The only reason he was over before was because he was a great athlete, and was like a "nice kid" who you couldn't help but feel for. When they turned him and joined him up with Torrie Wilson, he simply didn't have enough attitude to pull off a heel gimmick. He just seemed like a kid trying too hard to be a bad ass.

The Rikishi heel turn after the "Who Hit Austin?" angle was shit. I didn't hate him, I didn't like him, I just wanted him off of my TV.
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Old 01-05-2004, 09:47 PM   #20
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The Sting Heel turn failed for two reasons:

1. Steve couldn't work the character as a heel.

2. Heel Sting is Sacriledge, and it was a BLATANT attempt to make sure Hogan was face (when Hogan ran in to save Benoit when he faced Sting from heel Sting and Flexy Lexy, the fans IMMEDIATELY booed Hogan)
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:25 AM   #21
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:09 PM   #22
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i think mention should go to Goldust, or should I say The Artist Formerly Known As Goldust, also, Kidman-WCW, also Hardyz when they did The New Brood stuff, they really couldn't get over the poor bastards, i mean as if anyone would care that they beat the living snot outta Mike Hayes, also, Matt's original heel turn at Armageddon 2001(?) then the Hardyz and Lita got together again for the Rumble cos it got so stale
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Old 01-06-2004, 04:38 PM   #23
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Matt Hardy- When he remained "Xtreme", Mattitude is perhaps the best heel turn ever.

Michael Cole- He made a horrible heel when he commentated on either Heat or Velocity.

Tajiri- His first heel turn, where he put Torrie in the geisha.

Booker T- His run with the Alliance, it seemed stale in parts.
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:08 PM   #24
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Michael Cole- He made a horrible heel when he commentated on either Heat or Velocity.
What year? I dont remember Cole being a heel
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:20 PM   #25
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Stone Cold is a good heel, he just got crap booking during the alliance and all that stuff.
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:20 PM   #26
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the worest heel i would say would be steph when she was GM makeing all those horrible macthing we have her to blmae for how bad smackdown is
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:35 PM   #27
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the worest heel i would say would be steph when she was GM makeing all those horrible macthing we have her to blmae for how bad smackdown is
Bless your heart. Stephanie was a FACE while playing the GM of SmackDown! Happy Belated Birthday!
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:49 PM   #28
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Bob Backlund's raving lunatic bit complete with presidential bid, the Goodfather, and Bret Hart's anti-American run come to mind.
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:50 PM   #29
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it would have to be goldberg, then the lame atempt to make him face again, when they bring in beth and all of a suden nash was the heel.
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Old 01-06-2004, 06:53 PM   #30
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Bob Backlund's raving lunatic bit complete with presidential bid, the Goodfather, and Bret Hart's anti-American run come to mind.
I liked The UnAmericans until they tried to burn the U.S. Flag at MSG, and i forgot about the GoodFather, he was a really bad heel
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:11 PM   #31
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I liked both of JR's turns. They made me laugh.
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:30 AM   #32
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I liked The UnAmericans until they tried to burn the U.S. Flag at MSG
Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:32 AM   #33
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Matt Hardy- When he remained "Xtreme", Mattitude is perhaps the best heel turn ever.
Yes, Mattitude was and is great, I was on about his original heel turn and the original Hardyz split, around Vengeance 2001 when they had the Undisputed title tournament thing and Lita was guest ref and stuff, shit heel turn.
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Old 01-07-2004, 06:39 AM   #34
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Old 01-07-2004, 08:33 AM   #35
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Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there
Yeah, they were known as the Hart Foundation.
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Old 01-07-2004, 10:43 AM   #36
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Old 01-07-2004, 01:54 PM   #37
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:18 PM   #38
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Different UNAmericans dude. The Hart Family ran their own little UnAmerican thing in 96/97 somewhere in there
News flash: As someone already pointed out, the Hart Foundation was never called the "UnAmericans."
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:38 PM   #39
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Yeah, they were known as the Hart Foundation.
"New" Hart Foundation? I can't remember. I know Owen and Neidhart, back when they wore the crazy checkered stuff, were "The New Foundation" for a few...days. Then Owen paired up with Koko B. Ware and did something else. So maybe I'm just smashing names together for the halibut.
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:00 PM   #40
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