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Triple A 07-04-2005 09:20 AM

Can chicks play men's professional sports?
 
The four major sports or whatever. Is there actually a rule that prevents women from being able to play, or what?

The Gooch 07-04-2005 09:49 AM

The big 4 sports, I doubt it. The only sport they may have a shot in is baseball as it is non-contact and possibly being a field goal kicker in football.

I do think women could play on the PGA tour, but why would they when they make more money on the Ladies tour.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-04-2005 11:13 AM

I think the Tampa Bay Lightning used to have a woman goalie and I know the Indiana Pacers signed a woman once so I don't think there is any rule. There might be one in the NBA now though since they started the WNBA.

The Gooch 07-04-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme
I think the Tampa Bay Lightning used to have a woman goalie and I know the Indiana Pacers signed a woman once so I don't think there is any rule. There might be one in the NBA now though since they started the WNBA.

That's true, I forgot Manon Rheume (sp?) played with the Lightning. I am thinking it was more of a publicity stunt than anything else, but I guess a goalie wouldn't encounter much physical contact so women could play that position against the boys.

I was thinking a woman could play point guard, but you still get banged a lot in basketball.

Rob 07-04-2005 12:30 PM

Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

Gonzo 07-04-2005 12:33 PM

Rob, shut the fuck up.

While there are no rules or laws or anything against women playing men's professional sports I don't think they can. As mentioned before, maybe baseball or goalie in hockey, maybe even basketball.

Women wouldn't be able to play hockey in any other position than goalie, they wouldn't be able to play football except maybe kicker or punter. The fact is that men are just bigger, stronger and faster than women and they would just get hurt easier. The men that play these sports get pumped full of drugs just to keep playing, I don't think that women would be able to endure the stresses as long.

Its not really a sexist view I'm trying to adopt here but thats what I think.

PureHatred 07-04-2005 01:26 PM

Big 4? You mean the Big 3 and the artist formerly known as Hockey, don't you?

As was mentioned, there's no such rule against it, but realistically women would have a very limited chance to be a professional in any of those. Doubt its happening any time soon.

Also, the LPGA comments were kind of dumb. Annika Sorenstam completely dominates the LPGA and her winnings wouldn't even put her in the top 30 in the PGA Tour. Because of a lack of sponsors and TV ratings, the winnings in the LPGA are a fraction of the men's side. BU tthats how it should be since no one gives a shit.

The Gooch 07-04-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Also, the LPGA comments were kind of dumb. Annika Sorenstam completely dominates the LPGA and her winnings wouldn't even put her in the top 30 in the PGA Tour. Because of a lack of sponsors and TV ratings, the winnings in the LPGA are a fraction of the men's side. BU tthats how it should be since no one gives a shit.

If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

Kane Knight 07-04-2005 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch
If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

That still makes absolutely no sense. The winnings are just so much lower on the LPGA that it's a moot point.

In fact, most of the golf tournies DO prevent women from entering, but nobody gives a shit because it's the only sport less entertianing than listening to them talk. :p

Gonzo 07-04-2005 01:50 PM

Well it does make sense. If Annika played on the PGA Tour the likelihood she wins and makes money from doing so is very slim. On the LPGA Tour she is one of the best, if not the best there is. On the LPGA Tour she can win on a consistent basis and make money from her winnings. So...

She plays on the LPGA Tour and wins consistently, makes money.

Plays on the PGA Tour to be equal to men, she doesn't make money.

Even though PGA Tour events would bring a substantially larger amount of earnings than an LPGA event she will make more money on the LPGA Tour because she can win there consistently.

PureHatred 07-04-2005 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch
If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

Well, since we're officially off topic here: It's stupid because the way you stated it made it seems as if there were more money to be had on the LPGA when there's not. If you're talking about one person in particular, fine, you're right, Sorenstam probably would make more money on the LPGA than in th PGA.

Gonzo 07-04-2005 02:05 PM

For a women golfer, there is more money to be made on the LPGA Tour, so it wasn't stupid. A woman wouldn't be as successful on the men's tour, so what he said was fine. There is more to be made on the LPGA Tour as a woman. The statement was fine.

The way it was understood was the only problem with it. :)

PureHatred 07-04-2005 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch
I do think women could play on the PGA tour, but why would they when they make more money on the Ladies tour.

You're right. That sentence is so concise and well-written that there's no way it could've been misinterpreted. :roll:

Nowhere in that statement was skill level ever mentioned or how successful they might be. He just used the phrase 'more money' which by itself is inaccurate.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-04-2005 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

The Gooch 07-04-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Well, since we're officially off topic here: It's stupid because the way you stated it made it seems as if there were more money to be had on the LPGA when there's not. If you're talking about one person in particular, fine, you're right, Sorenstam probably would make more money on the LPGA than in th PGA.

I appologize for my wording. I am in total agreement with you that if she was one of the best in the world regardless of gender it would make more sense for her to be in PGA as there is way more money to be made. My point was that the LPGA although not as financially lucrative is a "safer" tour for the ladies. If you are one of the best women you will likely make way more on the LPGA than on the PGA tour. The same can be said of the Senior/Champ tour for older players.

PureHatred 07-04-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch
I appologize for my wording. I am in total agreement with you that if she was one of the best in the world regardless of gender it would make more sense for her to be in PGA as there is way more money to be made. My point was that the LPGA although not as financially lucrative is a "safer" tour for the ladies. If you are one of the best women you will likely make way more on the LPGA than on the PGA tour. The same can be said of the Senior/Champ tour for older players.

Yep. We agree. And I apologize for my misunderstanding.

The Miz 07-04-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34
lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

CMON LADS ENOUGH SCRAPPING ABOUT HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF THE FOOTY RIPPING GOOD GAME YES

The Miz 07-04-2005 02:47 PM

And to the topic question, Jason Giambi plays for the Yankees so there is no rule dissallowing women.

Kane Knight 07-04-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo
For a women golfer, there is more money to be made on the LPGA Tour, so it wasn't stupid. A woman wouldn't be as successful on the men's tour, so what he said was fine. There is more to be made on the LPGA Tour as a woman. The statement was fine.

The way it was understood was the only problem with it. :)

Actually, you have no real indication that women golfers wouldn't be competitive on the PGA scene (Especially since they don't want them in). Really, there'd be mroe money, as being way down the totem pole is still more financially rewarding than being a top star on the LPGA.

Innovator 07-04-2005 04:56 PM

A woman being a punter or kicker on a football team is so fuckin half assed. If she wants to play, have her be a running back or a linemen. Now lets see if they want to play the game

Gonzo 07-04-2005 04:56 PM

You're right in that there is no real indicator of how well they would perform. If you can win on the LPGA Tour I guarantee you would be making more than if you were on the PGA Tour being a bottom feeder.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-04-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

Yeah nobody in Japan or South America gives a toss about baseball at all. Certainly no one in Eastern Europe cares about hockey. In fact, I doubt anyone from Spain or Serbia has even heard of basketball.

Your argument is so solid, Robby. You don't sound retarded at all. You're a big boy.

The Miz 07-04-2005 04:58 PM

Supreme you bloody wanker you're a right cunt

Team Sheep 07-04-2005 04:59 PM

Well my auntie used to play for the England rugby team, which is like 10 times tougher than American Football :D

Supreme Olajuwon 07-04-2005 05:03 PM

And you've played American football how many times?

Bo 07-04-2005 05:04 PM

There is a line where it seems that nobody could probally get the right idea of a woman playing football (NFL) say if she was on offence and say a guy like Ray Lewis tackles the shit out of her. Then there would be the problem of figureing out weather he tackeled the shit out of her being a woman or being a football player making money to tackle people.

Team Sheep 07-04-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme
And you've played American football how many times?

Don't get me wrong, I like the game. No I have not played it, but come on, rugby players wear no protection, and there are tackles made every moment in rugby, plus the ferocious rucking and mauling, with no breaks in play until the ball goes forward or goes out of play or if a foul is committed. Football stops after pretty much every tackle.

The Outlaw 07-04-2005 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

Oh you're so silly.

Bad Company 07-04-2005 07:09 PM

I've played american football and it's bloody tough, alot more anarobic than rugby, but probably more heavy contact, just not as much of the rest. Rugby is still tougher though ;) But it's pretty much tomato - tomato.

Kane Knight 07-04-2005 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator
A woman being a punter or kicker on a football team is so fuckin half assed. If she wants to play, have her be a running back or a linemen. Now lets see if they want to play the game

Yeah, let's hire someone who's a good kicker and have them play lineman. :lol:

Good way to book a team.

AlphaBean 07-04-2005 07:37 PM

A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.

Kane Knight 07-04-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Sheep
Don't get me wrong, I like the game. No I have not played it, but come on, rugby players wear no protection, and there are tackles made every moment in rugby, plus the ferocious rucking and mauling, with no breaks in play until the ball goes forward or goes out of play or if a foul is committed. Football stops after pretty much every tackle.

I've gotta agree with you.

While I follow football in the US, mostly the Pats, that doesn't make it a really tough game like everyone professes it to be.

"I just find it odd that a nation that prides itself on virility straps on 80 lbs of padding to play Rugby."

Kane Knight 07-04-2005 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean
A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.

Which is why football players wil primarily be ugly diesel dykes. :p

AlphaBean 07-04-2005 07:54 PM

*are primarily.

At least in Minnesota, there are women's football leagues cropping up. They're all awesome, leathery, bikers or lumberjacks. Retired firefighters, and that sort. God, I'd want to see THAT calendar. :drool:

AlphaBean 07-04-2005 07:55 PM

Which league makes more money: the NFL or the uh... national rugby association?

Supreme Olajuwon 07-04-2005 09:51 PM

Football has a completely different dimension to it than rugby because you're allowed to block and it's also legal to tackle without wrapping. That creates a lot of blindside hits that make pads a necessity. Also head on collisions at full speed occur a lot more in football than in rugby. Not to mention that it's legal to hit someone while they are in the air. Both are incredibly tough sports to play. In rugby you get hit more and in football you get hit harder. It doesn't make either more manly that the other. Both are great to play.

Gonzo 07-05-2005 02:30 AM

They are both fun to play and both deal with a great bit of contact. I would say that football is tougher on the body though, in my experience.

Buzzkill 07-05-2005 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34
lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

By that logic, couldn't I try out for the WNBA, then sue them for discrimination when they say no? (This is assuming I'm good)

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-05-2005 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzkill
By that logic, couldn't I try out for the WNBA, then sue them for discrimination when they say no? (This is assuming I'm good)

No you can't because your trail would have no shot since their a mens and womens league

BCWWF 07-05-2005 12:53 PM

I wouldn't rule out a woman ever being able to play in the NHL. If one sport had a rule against women, I would assume it be baseball, just because it seems to have more stuff like that written down. But I could see a day when there is a woman capable of playing in the NHL. You guys talk about it as if all women are super models. There is a girl who played on a guys varsity hockey team in Minnesota, Annika Sorenstam can squat like 500 pounds, I don't think its something to completely rule out for hockey.

Anyway, to the rugby vs. american football argument, I would say that rugby players are tougher just by watching their sport, but to call football not tough because they wear pads is pretty dumb. It's not like they go out there with pillows stuffed in their bellies, they wear less pads then hockey players and hit players 10 times more.


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