Can chicks play men's professional sports?

**Triple A** · 07-04-2005, 09:20 AM

The four major sports or whatever. Is there actually a rule that prevents women from being able to play, or what?

**The Gooch** · 07-04-2005, 09:49 AM

The big 4 sports, I doubt it. The only sport they may have a shot in is baseball as it is non-contact and possibly being a field goal kicker in football.

I do think women could play on the PGA tour, but why would they when they make more money on the Ladies tour.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 07-04-2005, 11:13 AM

I think the Tampa Bay Lightning used to have a woman goalie and I know the Indiana Pacers signed a woman once so I don't think there is any rule. There might be one in the NBA now though since they started the WNBA.

**The Gooch** · 07-04-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme

I think the Tampa Bay Lightning used to have a woman goalie and I know the Indiana Pacers signed a woman once so I don't think there is any rule. There might be one in the NBA now though since they started the WNBA.

That's true, I forgot Manon Rheume (sp?) played with the Lightning. I am thinking it was more of a publicity stunt than anything else, but I guess a goalie wouldn't encounter much physical contact so women could play that position against the boys.

I was thinking a woman could play point guard, but you still get banged a lot in basketball.

**Rob** · 07-04-2005, 12:30 PM

Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

**Gonzo** · 07-04-2005, 12:33 PM

Rob, shut the fuck up.

While there are no rules or laws or anything against women playing men's professional sports I don't think they can. As mentioned before, maybe baseball or goalie in hockey, maybe even basketball.

Women wouldn't be able to play hockey in any other position than goalie, they wouldn't be able to play football except maybe kicker or punter. The fact is that men are just bigger, stronger and faster than women and they would just get hurt easier. The men that play these sports get pumped full of drugs just to keep playing, I don't think that women would be able to endure the stresses as long.

Its not really a sexist view I'm trying to adopt here but thats what I think.

**PureHatred** · 07-04-2005, 01:26 PM

Big 4? You mean the Big 3 and the artist formerly known as Hockey, don't you?

As was mentioned, there's no such rule against it, but realistically women would have a very limited chance to be a professional in any of those. Doubt its happening any time soon.

Also, the LPGA comments were kind of dumb. Annika Sorenstam completely dominates the LPGA and her winnings wouldn't even put her in the top 30 in the PGA Tour. Because of a lack of sponsors and TV ratings, the winnings in the LPGA are a fraction of the men's side. BU tthats how it should be since no one gives a shit.

**The Gooch** · 07-04-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred

Also, the LPGA comments were kind of dumb. Annika Sorenstam completely dominates the LPGA and her winnings wouldn't even put her in the top 30 in the PGA Tour. Because of a lack of sponsors and TV ratings, the winnings in the LPGA are a fraction of the men's side. BU tthats how it should be since no one gives a shit.

If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

**Kane Knight** · 07-04-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch

If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

That still makes absolutely no sense. The winnings are just so much lower on the LPGA that it's a moot point.

In fact, most of the golf tournies DO prevent women from entering, but nobody gives a shit because it's the only sport less entertianing than listening to them talk.

**Gonzo** · 07-04-2005, 01:50 PM

Well it does make sense. If Annika played on the PGA Tour the likelihood she wins and makes money from doing so is very slim. On the LPGA Tour she is one of the best, if not the best there is. On the LPGA Tour she can win on a consistent basis and make money from her winnings. So...

She plays on the LPGA Tour and wins consistently, makes money.

Plays on the PGA Tour to be equal to men, she doesn't make money.

Even though PGA Tour events would bring a substantially larger amount of earnings than an LPGA event she will make more money on the LPGA Tour because she can win there consistently.

**PureHatred** · 07-04-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch

If this was addressed at me, my point is why would Annika play with the boys and make no money because she couldn't even make the cut at a PGA event whereas she can play on the womens tour and make much more as she is consistently near the top of the leaderboard.

Well, since we're officially off topic here: It's stupid because the way you stated it made it seems as if there were more money to be had on the LPGA when there's not. If you're talking about one person in particular, fine, you're right, Sorenstam probably would make more money on the LPGA than in th PGA.

**Gonzo** · 07-04-2005, 02:05 PM

For a women golfer, there is more money to be made on the LPGA Tour, so it wasn't stupid. A woman wouldn't be as successful on the men's tour, so what he said was fine. There is more to be made on the LPGA Tour as a woman. The statement was fine.

The way it was understood was the only problem with it.

**PureHatred** · 07-04-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch

I do think women could play on the PGA tour, but why would they when they make more money on the Ladies tour.

You're right. That sentence is so concise and well-written that there's no way it could've been misinterpreted.

Nowhere in that statement was skill level ever mentioned or how successful they might be. He just used the phrase 'more money' which by itself is inaccurate.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-04-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

**The Gooch** · 07-04-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred

Well, since we're officially off topic here: It's stupid because the way you stated it made it seems as if there were more money to be had on the LPGA when there's not. If you're talking about one person in particular, fine, you're right, Sorenstam probably would make more money on the LPGA than in th PGA.

I appologize for my wording. I am in total agreement with you that if she was one of the best in the world regardless of gender it would make more sense for her to be in PGA as there is way more money to be made. My point was that the LPGA although not as financially lucrative is a "safer" tour for the ladies. If you are one of the best women you will likely make way more on the LPGA than on the PGA tour. The same can be said of the Senior/Champ tour for older players.

**PureHatred** · 07-04-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch

I appologize for my wording. I am in total agreement with you that if she was one of the best in the world regardless of gender it would make more sense for her to be in PGA as there is way more money to be made. My point was that the LPGA although not as financially lucrative is a "safer" tour for the ladies. If you are one of the best women you will likely make way more on the LPGA than on the PGA tour. The same can be said of the Senior/Champ tour for older players.

Yep. We agree. And I apologize for my misunderstanding.

**The Miz** · 07-04-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

CMON LADS ENOUGH SCRAPPING ABOUT HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF THE FOOTY RIPPING GOOD GAME YES

**The Miz** · 07-04-2005, 02:47 PM

And to the topic question, Jason Giambi plays for the Yankees so there is no rule dissallowing women.

**Kane Knight** · 07-04-2005, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

For a women golfer, there is more money to be made on the LPGA Tour, so it wasn't stupid. A woman wouldn't be as successful on the men's tour, so what he said was fine. There is more to be made on the LPGA Tour as a woman. The statement was fine.

The way it was understood was the only problem with it.

Actually, you have no real indication that women golfers wouldn't be competitive on the PGA scene (Especially since they don't want them in). Really, there'd be mroe money, as being way down the totem pole is still more financially rewarding than being a top star on the LPGA.

**Innovator** · 07-04-2005, 04:56 PM

A woman being a punter or kicker on a football team is so fuckin half assed. If she wants to play, have her be a running back or a linemen. Now lets see if they want to play the game

**Gonzo** · 07-04-2005, 04:56 PM

You're right in that there is no real indicator of how well they would perform. If you can win on the LPGA Tour I guarantee you would be making more than if you were on the PGA Tour being a bottom feeder.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 07-04-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

Yeah nobody in Japan or South America gives a toss about baseball at all. Certainly no one in Eastern Europe cares about hockey. In fact, I doubt anyone from Spain or Serbia has even heard of basketball.

Your argument is so solid, Robby. You don't sound retarded at all. You're a big boy.

**The Miz** · 07-04-2005, 04:58 PM

Supreme you bloody wanker you're a right cunt

**Team Sheep** · 07-04-2005, 04:59 PM

Well my auntie used to play for the England rugby team, which is like 10 times tougher than American Football

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 07-04-2005, 05:03 PM

And you've played American football how many times?

Bo · 07-04-2005, 05:04 PM

There is a line where it seems that nobody could probally get the right idea of a woman playing football (NFL) say if she was on offence and say a guy like Ray Lewis tackles the shit out of her. Then there would be the problem of figureing out weather he tackeled the shit out of her being a woman or being a football player making money to tackle people.

**Team Sheep** · 07-04-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme

And you've played American football how many times?

Don't get me wrong, I like the game. No I have not played it, but come on, rugby players wear no protection, and there are tackles made every moment in rugby, plus the ferocious rucking and mauling, with no breaks in play until the ball goes forward or goes out of play or if a foul is committed. Football stops after pretty much every tackle.

**The Outlaw** · 07-04-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

Oh you're so silly.

**Bad Company** · 07-04-2005, 07:09 PM

I've played american football and it's bloody tough, alot more anarobic than rugby, but probably more heavy contact, just not as much of the rest. Rugby is still tougher though

But it's pretty much tomato - tomato.

**Kane Knight** · 07-04-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

A woman being a punter or kicker on a football team is so fuckin half assed. If she wants to play, have her be a running back or a linemen. Now lets see if they want to play the game

Yeah, let's hire someone who's a good kicker and have them play lineman.

Good way to book a team.

**AlphaBean** · 07-04-2005, 07:37 PM

A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.

**Kane Knight** · 07-04-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Sheep

Don't get me wrong, I like the game. No I have not played it, but come on, rugby players wear no protection, and there are tackles made every moment in rugby, plus the ferocious rucking and mauling, with no breaks in play until the ball goes forward or goes out of play or if a foul is committed. Football stops after pretty much every tackle.

I've gotta agree with you.

While I follow football in the US, mostly the Pats, that doesn't make it a really tough game like everyone professes it to be.

"I just find it odd that a nation that prides itself on virility straps on 80 lbs of padding to play Rugby."

**Kane Knight** · 07-04-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.

Which is why football players wil primarily be ugly diesel dykes.

**AlphaBean** · 07-04-2005, 07:54 PM

*are primarily.

At least in Minnesota, there are women's football leagues cropping up. They're all awesome, leathery, bikers or lumberjacks. Retired firefighters, and that sort. God, I'd want to see THAT calendar.

**AlphaBean** · 07-04-2005, 07:55 PM

Which league makes more money: the NFL or the uh... national rugby association?

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 07-04-2005, 09:51 PM

Football has a completely different dimension to it than rugby because you're allowed to block and it's also legal to tackle without wrapping. That creates a lot of blindside hits that make pads a necessity. Also head on collisions at full speed occur a lot more in football than in rugby. Not to mention that it's legal to hit someone while they are in the air. Both are incredibly tough sports to play. In rugby you get hit more and in football you get hit harder. It doesn't make either more manly that the other. Both are great to play.

**Gonzo** · 07-05-2005, 02:30 AM

They are both fun to play and both deal with a great bit of contact. I would say that football is tougher on the body though, in my experience.

**Buzzkill** · 07-05-2005, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

lol nobody "gives a toss" about you not caring about the big 4 - I don't see why you guys feel the need to point that out all the time. I get it - you guys don't like American sports. Nobody cares.

Back to the topic I am sure they can. It would be againest the law to deny them a chance just for being a girl.

By that logic, couldn't I try out for the WNBA, then sue them for discrimination when they say no? (This is assuming I'm good)

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 07-05-2005, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzzkill

By that logic, couldn't I try out for the WNBA, then sue them for discrimination when they say no? (This is assuming I'm good)

No you can't because your trail would have no shot since their a mens and womens league

**BCWWF** · 07-05-2005, 12:53 PM

I wouldn't rule out a woman ever being able to play in the NHL. If one sport had a rule against women, I would assume it be baseball, just because it seems to have more stuff like that written down. But I could see a day when there is a woman capable of playing in the NHL. You guys talk about it as if all women are super models. There is a girl who played on a guys varsity hockey team in Minnesota, Annika Sorenstam can squat like 500 pounds, I don't think its something to completely rule out for hockey.

Anyway, to the rugby vs. american football argument, I would say that rugby players are tougher just by watching their sport, but to call football not tough because they wear pads is pretty dumb. It's not like they go out there with pillows stuffed in their bellies, they wear less pads then hockey players and hit players 10 times more.

07-04-2005, 09:20 AM	#1
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	Can chicks play men's professional sports? The four major sports or whatever. Is there actually a rule that prevents women from being able to play, or what?

07-04-2005, 09:49 AM	#2
The Gooch Enlarged Member Posts: 2,070	The big 4 sports, I doubt it. The only sport they may have a shot in is baseball as it is non-contact and possibly being a field goal kicker in football. I do think women could play on the PGA tour, but why would they when they make more money on the Ladies tour.

07-04-2005, 11:13 AM	#3
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,765	I think the Tampa Bay Lightning used to have a woman goalie and I know the Indiana Pacers signed a woman once so I don't think there is any rule. There might be one in the NBA now though since they started the WNBA.

07-04-2005, 12:30 PM	#5
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	Big 4? Nobody gives a toss about your "big 4" outside North America.

07-04-2005, 12:33 PM	#6
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Rob, shut the fuck up. While there are no rules or laws or anything against women playing men's professional sports I don't think they can. As mentioned before, maybe baseball or goalie in hockey, maybe even basketball. Women wouldn't be able to play hockey in any other position than goalie, they wouldn't be able to play football except maybe kicker or punter. The fact is that men are just bigger, stronger and faster than women and they would just get hurt easier. The men that play these sports get pumped full of drugs just to keep playing, I don't think that women would be able to endure the stresses as long. Its not really a sexist view I'm trying to adopt here but thats what I think.

07-04-2005, 01:26 PM	#7
PureHatred Instant Credibility Posts: 2,979	Big 4? You mean the Big 3 and the artist formerly known as Hockey, don't you? As was mentioned, there's no such rule against it, but realistically women would have a very limited chance to be a professional in any of those. Doubt its happening any time soon. Also, the LPGA comments were kind of dumb. Annika Sorenstam completely dominates the LPGA and her winnings wouldn't even put her in the top 30 in the PGA Tour. Because of a lack of sponsors and TV ratings, the winnings in the LPGA are a fraction of the men's side. BU tthats how it should be since no one gives a shit.

07-04-2005, 01:50 PM	#10
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Well it does make sense. If Annika played on the PGA Tour the likelihood she wins and makes money from doing so is very slim. On the LPGA Tour she is one of the best, if not the best there is. On the LPGA Tour she can win on a consistent basis and make money from her winnings. So... She plays on the LPGA Tour and wins consistently, makes money. Plays on the PGA Tour to be equal to men, she doesn't make money. Even though PGA Tour events would bring a substantially larger amount of earnings than an LPGA event she will make more money on the LPGA Tour because she can win there consistently.

07-04-2005, 02:05 PM	#12
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	For a women golfer, there is more money to be made on the LPGA Tour, so it wasn't stupid. A woman wouldn't be as successful on the men's tour, so what he said was fine. There is more to be made on the LPGA Tour as a woman. The statement was fine. The way it was understood was the only problem with it.

07-04-2005, 02:47 PM	#18
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	And to the topic question, Jason Giambi plays for the Yankees so there is no rule dissallowing women.

07-04-2005, 04:56 PM	#20
Innovator Inno Knows. Posts: 43,710	A woman being a punter or kicker on a football team is so fuckin half assed. If she wants to play, have her be a running back or a linemen. Now lets see if they want to play the game

07-04-2005, 04:58 PM	#23
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Supreme you bloody wanker you're a right cunt

07-04-2005, 04:59 PM	#24
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	Well my auntie used to play for the England rugby team, which is like 10 times tougher than American Football

07-04-2005, 05:03 PM	#25
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,765	And you've played American football how many times?

07-04-2005, 05:04 PM	#26
Bo Bo Knows Posts: 2,786	There is a line where it seems that nobody could probally get the right idea of a woman playing football (NFL) say if she was on offence and say a guy like Ray Lewis tackles the shit out of her. Then there would be the problem of figureing out weather he tackeled the shit out of her being a woman or being a football player making money to tackle people.

07-04-2005, 07:09 PM	#29
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	I've played american football and it's bloody tough, alot more anarobic than rugby, but probably more heavy contact, just not as much of the rest. Rugby is still tougher though But it's pretty much tomato - tomato.

07-04-2005, 07:37 PM	#31
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.

07-04-2005, 07:54 PM	#34
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	*are primarily. At least in Minnesota, there are women's football leagues cropping up. They're all awesome, leathery, bikers or lumberjacks. Retired firefighters, and that sort. God, I'd want to see THAT calendar.

07-04-2005, 07:55 PM	#35
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Which league makes more money: the NFL or the uh... national rugby association?

07-04-2005, 09:51 PM	#36
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,765	Football has a completely different dimension to it than rugby because you're allowed to block and it's also legal to tackle without wrapping. That creates a lot of blindside hits that make pads a necessity. Also head on collisions at full speed occur a lot more in football than in rugby. Not to mention that it's legal to hit someone while they are in the air. Both are incredibly tough sports to play. In rugby you get hit more and in football you get hit harder. It doesn't make either more manly that the other. Both are great to play.

07-05-2005, 02:30 AM	#37
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	They are both fun to play and both deal with a great bit of contact. I would say that football is tougher on the body though, in my experience.

07-05-2005, 12:53 PM	#40
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I wouldn't rule out a woman ever being able to play in the NHL. If one sport had a rule against women, I would assume it be baseball, just because it seems to have more stuff like that written down. But I could see a day when there is a woman capable of playing in the NHL. You guys talk about it as if all women are super models. There is a girl who played on a guys varsity hockey team in Minnesota, Annika Sorenstam can squat like 500 pounds, I don't think its something to completely rule out for hockey. Anyway, to the rugby vs. american football argument, I would say that rugby players are tougher just by watching their sport, but to call football not tough because they wear pads is pretty dumb. It's not like they go out there with pillows stuffed in their bellies, they wear less pads then hockey players and hit players 10 times more.