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Goulet 04-04-2006 12:30 PM

Raw Superstar Asks for Release
 
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Originally Posted by pwinsider.com
Tyson Tomko is gone from World Wrestling Entertainment. According to several sources, Tomko had been told by WWE creative that he and Gene Snitsky would be put together and given a push after Wrestlemania 22.

At last night's Raw taping in Chicago, Snitsky was paired as a tag team with Goldust, which will be a regular undercard tandem. Upon realizing that he was not going to get his promised push, Tomko immediately approached WWE management, informed them of his unhappiness over the situation and then requested a release. I was told this morning the request had been granted, so Tomko is done with the company.

Tomko's biggest push during his WWE run was during the time period he was seconding Christian Cage as Christian's "Problem Solver."

Problem Solver in TNA?

Eunos 04-04-2006 12:35 PM

Ah well.. No Major Loss their.

Xero 04-04-2006 12:39 PM

WWE would complain so he'll probably be called "The Eraser", to take a shot at Test. :shifty:

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 01:07 PM

Jesus Christ. These guys want everything handed to them the second they walk in the door these days. Tomko has only been appearing on air for about two years.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 01:36 PM

LOL. They're dumb enough to sign him too.

Xero 04-04-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Jesus Christ. These guys want everything handed to them the second they walk in the door these days. Tomko has only been appearing on air for about two years.

He has? After Christian and after his tag team with Snitsky I believe he basically fell off the face of WWE TV.

And no, I don't, nor did I consider Heat/Velocity "WWE TV".

Anybody Thrilla 04-04-2006 01:39 PM

Tomko was busting up nobodies on Heat for a few months, and Rene Dupree was saying something about wanting to form a tag team with him, but I guess that whole idea got tossed in the bin with "who was driving the Hummer?".

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
He has? After Christian and after his tag team with Snitsky I believe he basically fell off the face of WWE TV.

And no, I don't, nor did I consider Heat/Velocity "WWE TV".

Basically, I'm saying that's all he's been in the "big time" for. Wait a few more years before you whine, please.

Jaton 04-04-2006 01:54 PM

It's hard for them not to expect something big after a few years when you see guys coming in and getting huge pushes immediately.

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaton
It's hard for them not to expect something big after a few years when you see guys coming in and getting huge pushes immediately.

Tomko got a decent push to get him started.

It's ridiculous. Booker T, Triple H, Benoit, Jericho, Taker, Kane, Show, Batista (though it's not really realized), JBL, and even Rey Mysterio put years into the business before they made it to the top. What if any of them decided that if they weren't pushed to the moon after two years, that was it?

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaton
It's hard for them not to expect something big after a few years when you see guys coming in and getting huge pushes immediately.

I have to agree. People get signed and pushed to the moon, they get TV time and some thought put into them, and that sets a precedent.

Now I'm not gonna pull any of that "paying your dues" crap, because I really don't buy it. But when you see other newbies running up the ladder, you have to get pissed that you're not as well. Especially when they push so many green and dangerous "superstars."

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Tomko got a decent push to get him started.

It's ridiculous. Booker T, Triple H, Benoit, Jericho, Taker, Kane, Show, Batista (though it's not really realized), JBL, and even Rey Mysterio put years into the business before they made it to the top. What if any of them decided that if they weren't pushed to the moon after two years, that was it?

Dude, it's not like he's pitching a fit because he hasn't held every title yet...

Anybody Thrilla 04-04-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I have to agree. People get signed and pushed to the moon, they get TV time and some thought put into them, and that sets a precedent.

Now I'm not gonna pull any of that "paying your dues" crap, because I really don't buy it. But when you see other newbies running up the ladder, you have to get pissed that you're not as well. Especially when they push so many green and dangerous "superstars."

http://lovely.bz/matyrules/masters_800.jpg

The One 04-04-2006 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Tomko got a decent push to get him started.

It's ridiculous. Booker T, Triple H, Benoit, Jericho, Taker, Kane, Show, Batista (though it's not really realized), JBL, and even Rey Mysterio put years into the business before they made it to the top. What if any of them decided that if they weren't pushed to the moon after two years, that was it?

...You had a point with some of those guys, but Big Show won the WCW World Heavyweight Title in his first professional wrestling match ever. Batista has only been in the business 2 years longer then Tomko.

Tyson Tomko got into pro wrestling in 1999. He wrestled on the Florida Indie circut before getting signed to a development deal and sent to OVW in 2002. He was then brought up on RAW in 2003. That's three years on the indie scene and 3 years on RAW, and what does he have to show for it? Nothing. He was Christian/Trish Stratus' bitch for a while. That's his career highlight. Now Tomko is a good talent. You wouldn't know it but he is above average on the mic, he is one of the better big men I have ever seen. He has talent and skill and above all he has a potential for a great future. And hell yeah, I would be pissed too to be told that they were going to push me in a tag team with someone who then gets thrown in a random bullshit other team just because the talentless Rhodes needs someone to tag with, and oh yeah he happens to be one of the writer's son. Tomko was supposed to continue with the Problem Solver, WWE droped the ball, WWE then did nothing with him, again dropping the ball, then he was supposed to be in a tag team with Snitsky (we all agree that could have helped the division more then seeing Goldust and Snitsky together) and once again WWE drops the ball.

He wants to walk? I say good for him. He wasn't earning a shit load. According to the posted 2005 Wrestler Salaries (if you believe those are correct) he earned $127,000. That's not a whole lot. He could go on the indie scene, build up a rep, or maybe just show up in TNA, work only 3 nights a month, and then go make use of his college degree in a real job.

Anybody Thrilla 04-04-2006 02:33 PM

Q: What's the difference between Tyson Tomko and Christopher Daniels?

A: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ty.../tomko_pre.jpg

Absolutely nothing.

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
...You had a point with some of those guys, but Big Show won the WCW World Heavyweight Title in his first professional wrestling match ever. Batista has only been in the business 2 years longer then Tomko.

Tyson Tomko got into pro wrestling in 1999. He wrestled on the Florida Indie circut before getting signed to a development deal and sent to OVW in 2002. He was then brought up on RAW in 2003. That's three years on the indie scene and 3 years on RAW, and what does he have to show for it? Nothing. He was Christian/Trish Stratus' bitch for a while. That's his career highlight. Now Tomko is a good talent. You wouldn't know it but he is above average on the mic, he is one of the better big men I have ever seen. He has talent and skill and above all he has a potential for a great future. And hell yeah, I would be pissed too to be told that they were going to push me in a tag team with someone who then gets thrown in a random bullshit other team just because the talentless Rhodes needs someone to tag with, and oh yeah he happens to be one of the writer's son. Tomko was supposed to continue with the Problem Solver, WWE droped the ball, WWE then did nothing with him, again dropping the ball, then he was supposed to be in a tag team with Snitsky (we all agree that could have helped the division more then seeing Goldust and Snitsky together) and once again WWE drops the ball.

He wants to walk? I say good for him. He wasn't earning a shit load. According to the posted 2005 Wrestler Salaries (if you believe those are correct) he earned $127,000. That's not a whole lot. He could go on the indie scene, build up a rep, or maybe just show up in TNA, work only 3 nights a month, and then go make use of his college degree in a real job.

Meh, Brian Kendrick asked for his release for the exact same reason. Where is he now?

The One 04-04-2006 02:46 PM

Kendrick asked for his release because he wanted to go on tour in Japan...he has said that his time over there was the best part of his career. He then came back and had a nice stay in RoH before being offered another contract by WWE...he earned more money in Japan, had a better time, and while it was only a temporary thing, bettered his career for it. Instead of being Spanky he is now known as Brian Kendrick and is in a very interesting Tag Team with Paul London...seems to have worked out better for him in the long run. Again, bad example.

redoneja 04-04-2006 03:09 PM

from wwe.com

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WWE.com: Is it true that you requested your release from WWE to go work in Japan?
Tyson Tomko: That’s correct.
WWE.com: What prompted that decision?
Tomko: It was a mutual agreement between me and WWE. I talked to WWE officials and there’s not anything going on with me right now. So, rather than sit around, I’m taking matters into my own hands. I’m going to go over to Japan. I’ve always admired the style there — the brutality. I’m a big fan of Bruiser Brody. And I just want to go over there and experience that. And while there’s a lull in my career here at WWE, I decided to take the opportunity to go over to Japan and hone my skills.

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WWE.com: Do you feel you were underutilized or improperly used in WWE?

Tomko: I think it’s easy to say that “I was underutilized,” but I think what would be more politically correct to say is that you underutilized yourself. I think I can and will be a bigger asset to this company.
WWE.com: What kind of opportunity would you need in WWE to show that you can be a bigger asset?
Tomko: I don’t think it was anything I was doing. The bottom line is that people sit by sometimes — and I’ve seen it happen to a handful of guys — where they just sit around and don’t do anything about their career. But I know I can be a top-caliber athlete for this company. I just think that rather than sit around and wait for the opportunity, I’m going to take it. Instead of waiting around for a handout, I’m going to go make my opportunity. Then, I’m going to come back and there’s going to be no question as to my ability at that point.
WWE.com: Do you have any plans finalized for wrestling with a particular promotion in Japan?
Tomko: There’s nothing completely finalized. I have been in talks as recently as this morning, and there had been e-mail communication. So, I can’t go on record as of this point, but I’m definitely — with 100 percent certainty — going to be appearing in Japan within the next couple of months.
WWE.com: Looking back, how do you feel about your time in WWE?
Tomko: Very positive. I think I’ve gone out on a good note and everything I’ve done here had been a testament to my abilities. I think that if I went any further without doing what I’m doing, then it could have jeopardized my stature, if you will. So, I’m going to take a step backward and go five steps forward.
WWE.com: So, you feel you’re leaving WWE on good terms where you might return in the future?
Tomko: Absolutely. I shook hands with Vince McMahon yesterday afternoon as I was leaving, and I believe the exact saying was: “The door is wide open.”
WWE.com: So it doesn’t sound like there are any hard feelings.
Tomko: None whatsoever. The company as a whole was fantastic to me. I’m not bitter in any way. This is just something that I wanted to do, and I’m just fortunate that there was a lull in what I was doing where I was able to go to Japan while not taking away from what WWE was doing with me. I came from being a bodyguard for a rock band, so I never got the opportunity to go work in areas like Japan or the independents or anything like that. And I want to experience that. So, while there was an opportunity, I decided to do this thing. I’ll come back, and when I come back I’ll be bigger than ever.
WWE.com: What were your favorite moments during your time in WWE?
Tomko: I have a few favorites. I had an opportunity to wrestle with Chris Benoit a few times. I also wrestled with Hulk Hogan in a six-man tag-team match with Christian and Chris Jericho as my partners and John Cena, HBK and Hulk Hogan as my opponents. That’s a match that I was really fortunate to be a part of. Also, I got the opportunity to face Ric Flair. Those are all points in my career where I would have never thought those opportunities would present themselves, and they did. I’m very fortunate and grateful for that.
WWE.com: There are going to be a lot of WWE Superstars who will read this on WWE.com today. Do you have any message for anyone you didn’t get a chance to speak to one-on-one before your departure?
Tomko: I just want to say to everybody I had an opportunity to work with in WWE, if I didn’t personally thank them, I’d like to thank them now. In times to come, we will definitely have a future meeting — and hopefully I’ll be on the good end of it. Because when and if I do come back to this company, any Superstar in my way, I’m going to take him out.
:y:

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
Kendrick asked for his release because he wanted to go on tour in Japan...he has said that his time over there was the best part of his career. He then came back and had a nice stay in RoH before being offered another contract by WWE...he earned more money in Japan, had a better time, and while it was only a temporary thing, bettered his career for it. Instead of being Spanky he is now known as Brian Kendrick and is in a very interesting Tag Team with Paul London...seems to have worked out better for him in the long run. Again, bad example.

Erm, dude's on Velocity and many casuals STILL don't realize he's back.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Erm, dude's on Velocity and many casuals STILL don't realize he's back.

Do you not get Smackdown or something? He's been on there, more than once, for legit matches. :|

tucsonspeed6 04-04-2006 03:26 PM

The highlight of Tomko's career:

Christian: "Give me a beat"
Tomko: "No."

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Do you not get Smackdown or something? He's been on there, more than once, for legit matches. :|

Not on any sort of regular basis. He and/or London will show up, do a job, and they'll move on with the show.

Savio 04-04-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Tomko was busting up nobodies on Heat for a few months, and Rene Dupree was saying something about wanting to form a tag team with him, but I guess that whole idea got tossed in the bin with "who was driving the Hummer?".

Rene got sick or injured.

Anybody Thrilla 04-04-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
The highlight of Tomko's career:

Christian: "Give me a beat"
Tomko: "No."

But what a great highlight that is, though.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Not on any sort of regular basis. He and/or London will show up, do a job, and they'll move on with the show.

And yet, they're on more than Velocity, and your claims lack foundation.

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
And yet, they're on more than Velocity, and your claims lack foundation.

Primarily, they're on Velocity. I never said, "Without a single SmackDown! appearance."

Nice try.

Corkscrewed 04-04-2006 08:22 PM

Good interview. Sounds honest and positive without sucking up.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Primarily, they're on Velocity. I never said, "Without a single SmackDown! appearance."

Nice try.

You still said that they're on Velocity, and tried to link it to people not knowing he's back. Your answer lacks foundation, even though you have tried to lawyer your way out of it. You can "technically, blah blah blah" all you want, but it doesn't change the lack of foundation to your statements.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 09:30 PM

In other words, "Nice Try."

Blitz 04-04-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Q: What's the difference between Tyson Tomko and Christopher Daniel?

Talent?

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz
Talent?

Daniels would give Christian a beat.

Pepsi Man 04-04-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
You still said that they're on Velocity, and tried to link it to people not knowing he's back. Your answer lacks foundation, even though you have tried to lawyer your way out of it. You can "technically, blah blah blah" all you want, but it doesn't change the lack of foundation to your statements.

No, that's the problem. You're trying to "technically" me around here and play the lawyer. Realistically, a lot of casuals that had heard of him before (due to his work in 2003, primarily) probably DON'T realize he's back. BUT, "technically", he's been on SmackDown! a time or two.

What's the last memorable thing Kendrick's done?

Mr. Nerfect 04-04-2006 10:31 PM

That interview on WWE.com sheds an entirely new light on this. Tomko's going to go over to Japan and improve until the WWE are forced to take note of his abilities and use him in a more prominent role. You can't fault the guy for being ambitious.

I like Tomko, he is above average in the ring, and he's a fine talker. The guy was a seven-time OVW Southern Tag Team Champion, so he must have done something to impress Jim Cornette. Tomko's something like 29 or 30 now, so he's still got a future ahead of him. It's good to see him want to use his early years to improve and come back with a lot more going for him.

Kane Knight 04-04-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
No, that's the problem. You're trying to "technically" me around here and play the lawyer. Realistically, a lot of casuals that had heard of him before (due to his work in 2003, primarily) probably DON'T realize he's back. BUT, "technically", he's been on SmackDown! a time or two.

What's the last memorable thing Kendrick's done?

Realistically, you're running on technicalities and assumptions. And trying to accuse me of playing the lawyer.

:lol:

Pepsi Man 04-05-2006 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Realistically, you're running on technicalities and assumptions. And trying to accuse me of playing the lawyer.

:lol:

Realistically, I'm not the one that's said "but, but, but he was on SmackDown! one time. NO FOUNDATION!"

You still haven't answered me. What's the last thing you remember Kendrick for?

Pinnacle Charisma 04-05-2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Q: What's the difference between Tyson Tomko and Christopher Daniels?

A: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/ty.../tomko_pre.jpg

Absolutely nothing.



Daniels actually has talent.

Hired Hitman 04-05-2006 08:41 AM

I'll miss his wicked Tattoos and Evil looking goatee.

Kane Knight 04-05-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi Man
Realistically, I'm not the one that's said "but, but, but he was on SmackDown! one time. NO FOUNDATION!"

You still haven't answered me. What's the last thing you remember Kendrick for?

Except you lack a foundation.

Note, I didn't even say you were WRONG, I said your argument lacked foundation.

And you tried to hide behind "well technically, I NEVER SAID THEY WERE ONLY ON VELOCITY! RULES LAWYER!!!!!!!11111"

Pepsi Man 04-05-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Except you lack a foundation.

Note, I didn't even say you were WRONG, I said your argument lacked foundation.

And you tried to hide behind "well technically, I NEVER SAID THEY WERE ONLY ON VELOCITY! RULES LAWYER!!!!!!!11111"

They PRIMARILY ARE ON VELOCITY. I'm telling you, you have some sick obsession with proving people "wrong", and while people could say the same for me, you take it to an all-new level. Politicing and going on technicalities, then accusing me of being the one to play that game? Wow.

V 04-05-2006 11:15 AM

lol remember when he first did his finishing kick and then fell backwards


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