This "Fairy Tale" Crap
 

Rey Mysterio's title reign is pissing me off. Seriously, I get it, he's small, he won the title, hooray. Seriously, I hope the fans start booing Mysterio out of the building. This is the type of hostility I had towards John Cena when he was first on his way to being WWE Champion.

This is nothing against the performers, but the way Michael Cole is told to hammer home that "America is about underdogs!" and their constant attempts to put Rey Mysterio over as a man who will fight anybody...IT IS FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!

Positioning the audience doesn't work. It didn't with John Cena, and it won't with Rey Mysterio. We know they are meant to be good guys, but trying to prove it to us every week is just going to get them booed out of resistence to having moralistic Champions shoved down our throats.

I really want to see Rey Mysterio's reign end, now. I like Rey Mysterio, this is what the WWE's positioning attempts have done to me. Idiots. They ruined what could have been an organically emotional title reign, simply because they wanted to pump it full with mechanical emotion. Fuck you WWE, and fuck Rey Mysterio's "underdog reign".

I wasn't planning on being so ranty with that, and there was supposed to be a constuctive point somewhere, but it's been made many times before on these boards, I'm just renewing my hate for the way the WWE constantly shove guys down our throats as good guy World Champions. It has the exact opposite effect. After watching this week's SmackDown! earlier today(Australia gets it a day before the United States), I got sick to the stomach when the main event for next week's show was announced. It was well done, and it is kind of clever, but I still hope it fucks the WWE over, just because it is so transparent.

Once again, fuck you WWE, fuck you for being that little whiny kid who is always making up stories for sympathy when their real life is good enough. Fuck you for making me detest Rey Mysterio and John Cena's current title reigns.

Feel free to add anything relating to the "fairy tale" wrestling careers John Cena and Rey Mysterio are currently living.

I just think it is so stupid that they keep calling him the "underdog" champion. Do they really think they are building his credibility by doing that?

Although I'm all for Rey having a title reign, I just wish it hadn't come the way it did. First they are billing it as he did it for Eddie and now the whole underdog crap is completly ruining it.

I'm sick of them bringing in this Fairy Tale character called God. Seriously how old do they fucking think we are :rant:







:shifty:

Anywaaays, yeah I gotta agree with you here Alienoid :y:

Mysterio's just been annoying since Eddie's death (Not disrespecting Eddie).

Haven't they been positioning the uadience for decades?

They have, and it's worked, for the most part. Now people have changed. It's just happened, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the fact that most of the audience which was positionable has left? Maybe it is because of some kind of pop-culture development which has allowed people more freedom when it comes to their views. I don't know how to pinpoint the exact moment when people clicked over.

Anyway, people aren't letting the WWE position them anymore. They tried to make John Cena a good guy and the fans eventually told the WWE to go fuck themselves. They then try it with Rey Mysterio. I constantly get this image of a person who is looking at a nice thing, then someone comes up and says "isn't that nice?" so many time that the person who was originally looking at it suddenly associates a negative image with that thing.

The WWE got away with positioning us alongside Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. Now we have entered a time when people don't want to be told to colour between the lines. Why does the WWE keep pushing us to, it just makes us want to rebel.

Because he's Vince McMahon dammit.

Really? And are y'all really rebelling People still tune in, they ignore the fans, money comes in...

This is the money era I guess. But if this is the money era... wouldn't that make Cena and Mysterio champion forever? Since they seem to be the most marketable to the WWE when Edge, Kane, Foley, RVD, The Bashams, Triple H, Angle, Benoit, Jericho, and Lashley could send WWE to the moon. DITCH THESE GUYS YOU CALL UNDERDOGS and let the big boys play.

:rofl:

WCW was where the big boys played... now they "play" in TNA and hog up the sandbox. ;)

But yeah, I'm starting to hate Mysterio's title reign now too. I mean, I marked out when he won the Royal Rumble, and then beat Orton for the WHC, but it's all worn off and I can't stand the constant barrage of "underdog" comments and whatnot. And I totally agree that it doesn't help his credibility one bit.

Hey here's what I've done in responce to the positioning of the WWE. I suggest the rest of you do it.

"Welcome to the History Channel. Tonight, we'll be looking at the history of cement."

I don't watch Smackdown anymore,
i just read the spoilers and wait...
as soon as the belt is off of Mysterio,
i may tune back in.

Dammit, Jimmy, every post you make looks like a damn poem!

Wrestling has become
stale
and
boring,
And though I used to be
a fan
I ain't
no more.

:p

I like
endjamming
but sometimes it
seems totally
retarded
like I can't put
together a
full
thought

I agree with Alienoid 100%. I am not going to sit here and talk like a noob "I am not gonna watch wwe no more cuz they do thiz" or nothing like that, but they have to wonder: Other than face SCSA, in the last 10 years, heels have brought higher ratings and more money. Why? Because ever since Stone Cold, they always seem to make the faces TOO clean, which in turn makes him look like a "lollypop champion" as i like to call it. This is why i think when Randy Orton had the title, they should have let him do his cocky gimmick because within a MONTH, i already wanted to see it change and that is bad because i wanted the title on Randy BAD. I mean, did you see the reaction he got when he won it from Benoit?

It really is a shame.

Before Eddie dies, Rey was geniunely getting over. Remember, Teddy was on the verge of naming him the number one contender, but Palmer Canon put Eddie there instead.

Nevertheless, coming off his fued with Eddie, Rey may have been more over then ever and in my opinion he would have eventually seen that title shot (and maybe eventually even a victory)

However, with the death of Eddie, Rey has gone downhill. He has been "positioned" as the underdog fairy-tale type, as you said, and many of the cheers he gets arenot for him at all, but for Eddie.

Rey may have been more over back then then he is now.

My Thing is, that I've always liked Mysterio's in-ring work, but never really been a fan of him, most of you know, I love high flying matches, wheither they be good or just spot fests, but I never got behind Mysterio ever, since well, he was always the one Cruiserweight, they mention above all others, in WCW and WWE...

I was glad to see Mysterio get the Title win and was even shocked when he won the Royal Rumble this past year, because I was totally expecting Orton to do so, before the rumble itself, however Mysterio title win was, well lacking to me, since most anyone seen it coming a mile away, Same can be said for Batista at mania the year before, however Benoit was a different story, because, knowing the backstage stuff and them adding Michaels to the match, you wasn't sure he pull it out, which he did..

But Mysterio reign, as well as Cena's is pissing me off, but mine is, I just hate Cena, I'm like the majority, that liked him when he was heel and going into his face run until he won the US Title at WMXX, and guess I hate him more then Rey Rey, but just hate how there both shoved down out throats.

I could not agree with you more, Alienoid...

This fairy tale bullshit has totally taken over the business, and maybe its because they bank on the fact that so many kids watch their product, but this is also something watched by a large male adult audience..

The stories has become much worse, and is starting to look a lot like Vince just doesn't care. Smackdown is dying from not having enough talent, and Rey's character is just finished. How can you keep carrying a small, unworthy champion through a reign in which was not even carried out properly?

Cena is the total sign of disrespect to the fans by the staff in charge of writing. They constantly try to shove his character down our throats into submissions hoping that we'll all like him and follow him like sheep.

Vince has been doing this bullshit to the fans for years now. Create a bullshit storyline and try and make the fans choose whom he wants to choose for us, yet... ...we are told that "WE" make the "SUPERSTARS" popular or not.

Umaga, Doink, Crush (W/The infamous HEARTPUNCH), All American Lex Luger, FLASH FUNK!?, Bastian Booger: these are all wrestlers who were given to us in hopes of liking them. Trying too hard to feed us their fairy tale bullshit like: the 123 Kid, Barry Horowitz and Atom Bomb with Johnny Polo!?

One other issue is that he wasn't champion back then. A lot of people have found him to be unbelievable as a Heavyweight champion.

lol i remember the All American Lex Luger. The guy was supposed to be the next Hulk Hogan for the WWF. LOL This guy was going to talk shows, signing autographs, and even had a tour bus. Man, talk about a push that went nowhere.

WWE, if you are reading, read close. AUSTIN, THE ROCK (97-2001, 2003), TRIPLE H (99-2001), nWo '97, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WORKED. WHY? BECAUSE THE FANS DECIDED THAT THEY ENJOYED WATCHING THEM. I do not dislike Cena personally or publically for that matter because i am loyal, but yea, he needs to either go back to how he was or just think of something new for him. They've done this to Diesel, who should've stuck to the edgy Diesel. The Rock...'nuff said...To Cena, i mean damn.

If you want to show the little kids morals, tell them to listen to their parents and do what the fuck they are supposed to do.

You... ...fucking... ...rule.

You're right about the Luger issue and very good in pointing out your thoughts the way that you did.

Wrestling has been dying out like a dying fire since/around 200. I believe myself, that the height of its greatness was at around 1997 - 1999.

200 A.D.? That sounds about right.

Here's the problem:

You have Vince who still believes that he can manipulate the audience into however he wants, just like 10 and 20 years ago.

You have writers who couldn't pull off a credible build-up for the life of them, unless HHH happens to be generous and does it for them (seriously; gimme the last time a guy was built up and made credible and remained credible, and was NOT shoved down our throats, save Batista; Cena had a great buildup, and then they shoved him down our throats). The writers aren't wrestling writers, so they don't understand how to do it. Vince probably understands how to do it, but his ego's deluded him.

The result is that rather than Rey actually getting credibility, they're unintentionally burying him by saying, week after week, that he got lucky. Fuck, they even have REY HIMSELF saying he "might lose on any week." What kind of champion is THAT unconfident? He doesn't have to be cocky, but he can at least concentrate on his hard work ethic and stress that. Why even mention you might lose?

It's little things like this that turn people off, plus all of what Alienoid mentioned about the verbal blow jobs.

Good post, Alienoid.

OH SHIT!! LOL!!

2000, jerk...

I love you, Alienoid. Words can not begin to express how awesome/true this topic is. :heart:

on a totally unrelated note, Jericho v.s. Rey title fued would save the show right about now.

Here's the thing that pisses me off about Mysterio: he cannot have a feud with anybody without the heel having to become obsessivly racist. And they do it like they're talking to a little kid, and then OH SHIT MYSTERIO JUST WENT NUTS, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, BAH GAWD BIG RIGHT HANDS! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! Its almost like it happens EVERY OTHER WEEK!

The other thing is that Mysterio is the "Underdog" in every other match that he's involved in. I get it guys, he's short. But get this: he's been in the business for a long time, and he's constantly in the upper card. You can't tell me that a heel wrestler wouldn't utilize just a little bit of common sense and recognize him as legitimate to some extent.

:drool:

Yeah, their cruiserweight fued in WCW was awesome.

this is fucking pathetic of the wwe. The best thing that happened to rey (sadly) is eddie buying the farm (dying). Why didnt they team Rey and chavo and give them a tag champ run? something a little more credible than making a cruiserwieght a world champion at WRESTLEMAINIA?


Rey as cruiserwieght champion ?yes!
as U.S champion meh...okay
as tag champ : okay if he had a big partner (like x-pac and razor)
as WWE champion ? not credible.



What would have happend if eddie died right in the middle of his fued with rey ? would they pull a kane storyline on us?

Come on, it's been dying since Jesus jobbed on Good Friday, but Held Judas and the Romans Down at Eastermania.

I've heard that that was a work.

Yeah, I don't really care about Rey's title reign.

Judas said it was on the commentary, but I hear they were planning on releasing a "Damned--The Judas Story" if he didn't cooperate.

And let's face it, after the ST. Peter DVD, he was pretty sure God wasn't screwing around.

I don't like, hate or care about Mysterios title reign, I just turn the channel over whenever he comes on it because i just cant stand him now.I was all for his title reign before, but not this way.

Well, shit, God owned the monopoly on heavenly figures for like... eternity! When Cain & Abel were getting over as the "Super Brothers," God forced them to do the break-up angle because his son was getting upset that the word "super" was being used in their tag team name. He claimed he could be the only "Jesus Christ Superstar."


Bada bing.

Oh Alienoid you must just be a bad apple

So now we're post-SmackDown!...
 

But my arguements are NEW and INNOVATIVE. ;)

Now that SmackDown! has come and gone in the United States, I think I am right to start talking about the future of the SmackDown! brand in specifics.

Next week, Rey Mysterio will face The Great Khali in a Non-Title Match. This pisses me off for so many reasons. It is SOOOOOO damn obvious The Undertaker is going to pop his head into this match, either giving Rey the win, or saving Mysterio from a beat-down post-match. What really pisses me off about this is not only it is predictable, but that it will work.

The WWE has done a weak job of making people care about Rey Mysterio, so now they're using a part-time guy, who, much like Hulk Hogan, surprises me with his 95% positive reactions. The event is also in San Diego, so the fans are going to be rabid for The Undertaker save with Taker and Mysterio having stare-down, probably ending with The Undertaker handing Rey Mysterio the World Heavyweight belt as a sign of respect. I am going to fast-forward the main event to see if I'm right.

The only thing that keeps me going is that I honestly believe this is a temporary thing. As soon as the WWE travels a bit further, Mysterio will start getting booed. What frustrates me is that during this time where the fans would cheer Mysterio if he ate live puppies in the middle of the ring, I doubt they're going to try and use that to build Mysterio up as a Champion people have faith in.

Come Judgment Day, I am going to order because the undercard looks so damn good. But when it comes to the "main events", I am going to tune-out, because this shit is just that, shit. I hope there are "Boring!" chants during the hoss match, and I hope there are "J-B-L!" chants during the World Heavyweight Title match. I hope Booker T wins the King of the Ring Tournament and gets cheered when he faces Rey Mysterio for the title at The Great American Bash.

The WWE does such a shit job with their main eventers it makes me WANT to see them fail miserably. I'm not trying to ruin the WWE, I am a WWE fan, it's just the WWE go out of their way to fuck things up, and if that isn't their intention then they are pretty fucking stupid.

By the way, I think that first kid they showed who was shocked Henry was about to kill Mysterio with the Silsby Splash off the platform, was a very similar kid to the one who watched The Undertaker get "incinerated" at No Mercy by Randy Orton.

So summing up this post: 1) I hope the fans shit all over Rey Mysterio in coming weeks, and 2) I hope the fans shit all over Taker/Khali, actually ruining The Undertaker's respect pops, replacing them with "you lazy fuck, get on the road and start doing shit or stop wasting out time with your zombie ballerina attire" heat.

It's gotten to the stage where I want to see the WWE fail. Not because I am no longer a fan, but because they actually position me to do so.

It's amazing how much duct tape they're using on this championship run.

Alienoid is a fucking hero...