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Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 07:59 PM

Bret Hart the greatest
 
He's gotta be the fucking man! Even as a big flair fan Bret Is God compared to flair i can admit this!

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:02 PM

I thought the question was Bret is the greatest so I answered no.

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:04 PM

Who is better then?

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:05 PM

HBK and Austin

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:06 PM

Fuck hbk omg you're retarded! Fuck you!

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:08 PM

Give me a good reason why Bret Hart is better then HBK besides the one favorite reason by every hardcore Bret Hart mark.

"Bret is better then HBK, becasue HBK is a dick."

Come on give me a good reason why Bret is better.

ClockShot 05-05-2006 08:08 PM

Ummmm. I'm gonna say Ric Flair is since his catch phrase is "To be the man, you gotta beat the man." I don't know if Bret did cause my brain doesn't feel like thinking right now. So I voted no.

94 SVT Cobra 05-05-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Give me a good reason why Bret Hart is better then HBK besides the one favorite reason by every hardcore Bret Hart mark.

"Bret is better then HBK, becasue HBK is a dick."

Come on give me a good reason why Bret is better.

Overall better wrestler IMO, bret hart im talking about. Shawn is great too, but bret was better

94 SVT Cobra 05-05-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Give me a good reason why Bret Hart is better then HBK besides the one favorite reason by every hardcore Bret Hart mark.

"Bret is better then HBK, becasue HBK is a dick."

Come on give me a good reason why Bret is better.

Overall better wrestler IMO, bret hart im talking about. Shawn is great too, but bret was better

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:11 PM

Hmm better wrestler bigger draw not a huge dickhead, Doesn't suck dick to keep his job and doesn't deserve a beating unlike that twat hbk!



I would think of better reaqsons but i'm drunk so these will do.

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:12 PM

doesn't base the rest of his carrear on the screw job like that twat does.

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:13 PM

Didn't get a good match out of diesal aka kevin nash for you thick cunts! Unlike bret hart

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 94 SVT Cobra
Overall better wrestler IMO, bret hart im talking about. Shawn is great too, but bret was better

I can respect that even though I disargee.

It's obviously opinon, but it just annoys me when people say HBK sucks just because he was a dick.

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Flair Wooo
Didn't get a good match out of diesal aka kevin nash for you thick cunts! Unlike bret hart

Yeah HBK got 2 good matches out of Diesel. WM 11 and IYH Good friends better enemies.

O snap

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:18 PM

Omg fuck you, you idiot!

McLegend 05-05-2006 08:20 PM

Good comeback

Harry Peters 05-05-2006 08:20 PM

I dont like Bret

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by legend
Good comeback

First thing i thought of too that ridiculous remark.

Dorkchop 05-05-2006 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot
Ummmm. I'm gonna say Ric Flair is since his catch phrase is "To be the man, you gotta beat the man." I don't know if Bret did cause my brain doesn't feel like thinking right now. So I voted no.

That would make UUUUUUUMAGA the man and better than Bret.

Thriller 05-05-2006 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot
Ummmm. I'm gonna say Ric Flair is since his catch phrase is "To be the man, you gotta beat the man." I don't know if Bret did cause my brain doesn't feel like thinking right now. So I voted no.

H e actually beat Flair for his first wwf world title.

Thriller 05-05-2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Yeah HBK got 2 good matches out of Diesel. WM 11 and IYH Good friends better enemies.

O snap

As big of a fan i am of Harts.I gotta agree with you on this.But it also documented that Nash says his favourite/best match was against Hart

Funky Fly 05-05-2006 09:56 PM

If this turns into a big fight, I will ban everyone in this thread.

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 10:04 PM

fuck you ff! This is my god dam wrestling thread! Go back to casual! :)

Xero 05-05-2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flair Wooo
fuck you ff! This is my god dam wrestling thread! Go back to casual! :)

That may have been a mistake...

Angle is the greatest of all time in my opinion by the way. He can not only wrestle, but he's the complete package. Talking, brawling, high flying, comedy, seriousness, etc. He can get over as both a heel and a face and can play them both well (bar Cena).

Funky Fly 05-05-2006 10:09 PM

http://www.boomspeed.com/funky_fly/banhammer2.jpg

Flair Wooo 05-05-2006 10:10 PM

Omg can you not take a joke?

Funky Fly 05-05-2006 10:11 PM

No.

NeanderCarl 05-05-2006 10:17 PM

Hart and HBK are about as equal as any two wrestlers could ever be. Comparing the two is difficult. You have Shawn who in the early/mid 90s was the more spectacular and flashy wrestler, while Bret was perhaps the most realistic and best technical style wrestler in the business. Both came up from similar backgrounds and similar circumstances and both were the first guys to really break the WWF main event as a "smaller" guy.

As an analogy, you could argue over who released the better album last year: for example, Coldplay or Kanye West? Rock/indie fans will tell you Coldplay; hip hop fans will tell you Kanye West. That doesn't make one album better than the other, they just excel in their specific genres. Some people like rock, in which Coldplay are arguably the premier group, and some people like hip hop, in which Kayne West is possibly regarded as the best.

Some people like flashy, aerial wrestling and therefore Shawn was their king. Some people prefer a hard-hitting ground-based style, in which Bret had no peers. There is no right or wrong answer here.

How good a performer somebody is (or even, sticking with the music comparison, how good a band are) is all in the eye (or ear) of the beholder. A song is neither good nor bad in itself. It is the opinion of the listener which assigns a level of quality to the track. That opinion might not neccessarily be matched by the next guy.

That's why when somebodys says to me "Oh, how can you like LImp Bizkit? They suck!" I always say "No, they don't suck. Your opinion is that they suck". Because, philosophically speaking, they are unable to "suck". It is all based on opinion.

Using this theory, it is quite possible for somebody to believe that The Big Show is the greatest wrestler of all-time. If somebody likes big, powerful giants wrestling, then the Big Show probably is the best of the lot. Slow, power wrestling may be their style of choice. In which case they would probably think both Bret AND Shawn were crap.

I'm doing the classic NeanderCarl "what was my point in the first place?" thing again here... what was I getting at??? Anyway, take that as you will. You can argue until you are blue in the face as to who was the greatest of all time, but at the end of the day, you can have your opinion, as can others, but by definition of "opinion" there can never be an OFFICIAL answer. And so the fight will rage on...

Funky Fly 05-05-2006 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly
No.

I can, however, make a few uf my own.

*unhammer*

Zen v.W.o. 05-06-2006 12:06 AM

Bret is the best there is, was and ever will be. Fucking fact!

Bret is great, and he is the greatest. Pillman comes in at a close second, only due to lack of longevity.

Fuck the rest of your opinions.

The One 05-06-2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly
If this turns into a big fight, I will ban everyone in this thread.

FUCK YOU! YOU WANNA FIGHT BI-OTCH! Bring it on! What? not man enough? Ohhh look at me, I'm all Funky, I have a hammer...lose the hammer and fight me like a man...come on! Bring it!

Crowd: Fight! Fight! Fight!

Gonna let the people down...*insert more dumbass barking noises here*

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Bret is the best there is, was and ever will be. Fucking fact!

Bret is great, and he is the greatest. Pillman comes in at a close second, only due to lack of longevity.

Fuck the rest of your opinions.

Right...only your opinion matters. :roll:

Bret Hart is easily one of the best, but I hate Hart-Marks. Trying to argue with them that Bret was anything other then a god is about as futile as trying to tell a Cena mark that John is a wigger wanna be, or getting a Hogan mark to admit that McMahon made Hulkamania.

Funky Fly 05-06-2006 12:23 AM

Bret was sub-par on the mic. Bret was godly in the ring.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

Jaton 05-06-2006 01:56 AM

JOHN CENA FTW

Joey Slugs 05-06-2006 02:13 AM

Bret had little-to-no mic skills but was great in the ring.

HBK has both covered.

I voted "No".

Funky Fly 05-06-2006 02:44 AM

Shut up Slugsssss. I'd ban u if Spinal Tap wasn't on my iPod right now.

Tpnioght I'm Gonna Rock Ya.

Rammsteinmad 05-06-2006 05:11 AM

Bret is great, but not the greatest.

HBK is greater, but not the greatest.

Benoit is the greatest.

Rammsteinmad 05-06-2006 05:21 AM

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthrea...ight=Bret+Hart

I think Flair Wooo has made his point by now...

Rob 05-06-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Give me a good reason why Bret Hart is better then HBK besides the one favorite reason by every hardcore Bret Hart mark.

"Bret is better then HBK, becasue HBK is a dick."

Come on give me a good reason why Bret is better.

Bret looked a million times more believable. When you watched him, you could suspend the belief enough that he could beat anyone or anyone could beat him. You didn't have that with Shawn. Shawn is still phenominal though.

s-hole 05-06-2006 09:40 AM

Bret is the original back-bone 2 which today v call techn wrestling. I think i will have 2 take a second birth in order 2 see him wrestle angle man It would b like seeing ....okay cant compare it 2 anything

Cuzziebro 05-06-2006 10:16 AM

Even though I voted yes, I don't believe that there is a single greatest wrestler. Everyone has their oppinions on who they like and who they don't. Unless we differentitate every wrestler that has appeared on T.V then we cannot say a certain one wrestler is the best. Bret has great technical skills but no mic skills, and HBK has better mic skills and above average in-ring skills. Its an arguement that could last forever if we wanted it to.


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