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s-hole 05-17-2006 01:54 PM

the Better Amigo
 
Who is the better 1 is it Benoit or Eddie Gurrero.

Comparision:

Benoit won the 2004 Royal Rumble

Eddie won a sd! tournament for the u.s. title

Benoit has main evented WM so has Eddie

Benoit is a multi time Tag Champ so is Eddie

Benoit has won the World Heavyweight Championship where as EDdie has
reigned supreme as the WWE CHAMPION

Gertner 05-17-2006 01:57 PM

Benoit was WCW champ. Eddie wasn't

UmbrellaCorporation 05-17-2006 01:58 PM

Not downplaying either one of them, but I've gotta say, I think Benoit wins this one by a nose.

s-hole 05-17-2006 01:59 PM

Eddie Eddie Eddie Eddie

Xero 05-17-2006 01:59 PM

Eddie, he had a charismatic arsenal much like Angle's in that he could play almost anything and get over.

Benoit's missing the charisma.

If I wasn't going to count charisma, I'd say it's a dead tie.

loopydate 05-17-2006 02:00 PM

Eddie was a phenomenal talent who most likely would have surpassed Benoit's accomplishments, but his life was cut short before he ever could.

HeartBreakMan2k 05-17-2006 03:26 PM

Eddie overall.

UmbrellaCorporation 05-17-2006 03:27 PM

Yeah, heh, if you factor charisma in, Eddie wins.

If not, it's Benoit. Just shows you how close they are in prestige though.

The One 05-17-2006 03:32 PM

Honestly, I would put Benoit over Eddie.

Did anyone else find it annoying he listed off staged accomplishments are genuine merrits of skill or talent?

UmbrellaCorporation 05-17-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Honestly, I would put Benoit over Eddie.

Did anyone else find it annoying he listed off staged accomplishments are genuine merrits of skill or talent?

What staged accomplishments?


IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMN IT!

HeartBreakMan2k 05-17-2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Honestly, I would put Benoit over Eddie.

Did anyone else find it annoying he listed off staged accomplishments are genuine merrits of skill or talent?

Somewhat, then again WWF Raw Magazine used to have the fantasy match up things, and they'd list the same stuff so I can't fault him for having grown up with lousy influences.

St. Jimmy 05-17-2006 04:15 PM

Which one of them is alive? Winner by Default of LIFE.

Mister Sinister 05-17-2006 07:56 PM

Well, Let's See, I'm going to give you a little bit more Indepth look at it.

Chris Benoit (In WCW)
WCW Champion for 1 Night (Beating Sid)
2 Time WCW United States Champion (Beating David Flair & Jeff Jarrett)
WCW Television Champion (Beating ???)
WCW Tag Team Champion w/ Dean Malenko (Beating Curt Henning & Barry Windham)
WCW Tag Team Champion w/Perry Saturn. (Beating DDP & Kanyon)

v. Eddie Guerrero (WCW)
Cruiserweight Champion
Tag Team Champion w/ Rey Mysterio

Benoit wins in WCW, Eddie just never really got much of a chance to be much....Benoit never really got the chance till it was too late.

WWE Chris Benoit
United States Champion (Beating O.J)
WWE Tag Team Champion w/ Kurt Angle (Beating Edge & Rey Rey)
2 Time World Tag Team Champion w/ Edge (Beating La Resistance)
2 or 3 Time WWE Intercontinental Champion (Beating Angle once and Jericho and Billy Gunn)
World Heavyweight Champion for 4 Months (Beating Triple H)

v. Eddie Guerrero WWE
2 European Champion (Beating Jericho & Test)
2 Time WWE Tag Team Champion (Once with Chavo, once with Rey)
Intercontinental Champion (Beating RVD)
United States Champion (Beating Chris Benoit)
WWE Champion (Beating Brock Lesnar)

Overall, in terms of Titles and big name wins, I'd have to give it to Benoit....Benoit has the slight edge over Eddie in terms of Ring Ability, But it's so close you can't really give him advantage, while Eddie completely owns Benoit in Character....

It's so very close, and It may be that Eddie Death is giving him this, but I'm going with Eddie over Benoit, if Eddie hadn't died, it would of been Benoit over him

Flair Wooo 05-17-2006 08:10 PM

This is easy! Benoit by a mile..and a life.

ddpBANG 05-17-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmsphere
Well, Let's See, I'm going to give you a little bit more Indepth look at it.

Chris Benoit (In WCW)
WCW Champion for 1 Night (Beating Sid)
2 Time WCW United States Champion (Beating David Flair & Jeff Jarrett)
WCW Television Champion (Beating ???)
WCW Tag Team Champion w/ Dean Malenko (Beating Curt Henning & Barry Windham)
WCW Tag Team Champion w/Perry Saturn. (Beating DDP & Kanyon)

v. Eddie Guerrero (WCW)
Cruiserweight Champion
Tag Team Champion w/ Rey Mysterio

Benoit wins in WCW, Eddie just never really got much of a chance to be much....Benoit never really got the chance till it was too late.

WWE Chris Benoit
United States Champion (Beating O.J)
WWE Tag Team Champion w/ Kurt Angle (Beating Edge & Rey Rey)
2 Time World Tag Team Champion w/ Edge (Beating La Resistance)
2 or 3 Time WWE Intercontinental Champion (Beating Angle once and Jericho and Billy Gunn)
World Heavyweight Champion for 4 Months (Beating Triple H)

v. Eddie Guerrero WWE
2 European Champion (Beating Jericho & Test)
2 Time WWE Tag Team Champion (Once with Chavo, once with Rey)
Intercontinental Champion (Beating RVD)
United States Champion (Beating Chris Benoit)
WWE Champion (Beating Brock Lesnar)

Overall, in terms of Titles and big name wins, I'd have to give it to Benoit....Benoit has the slight edge over Eddie in terms of Ring Ability, But it's so close you can't really give him advantage, while Eddie completely owns Benoit in Character....

It's so very close, and It may be that Eddie Death is giving him this, but I'm going with Eddie over Benoit, if Eddie hadn't died, it would of been Benoit over him

Where'd you get your stats? There's a few things you mention that I don't remember.

Pinnacle Charisma 05-17-2006 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One

Did anyone else find it annoying he listed off staged accomplishments are genuine merrits of skill or talent?


Yeah I find it annoying as well.

Eddie was the whole package. Charisma, wrestling ablity and he could connect with the fans alot better.


And his accomplishments would have surpassed Benoit as well. I mean he was going to become a 2 time world champ and it was likily that he would have had more. I dont think Benoit is going to get another run with the belt.

Mister Sinister 05-17-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddpBANG
Where'd you get your stats? There's a few things you mention that I don't remember.

Well, I was one of the only few that actually watched Nitro in 98 & 99

crash99 05-17-2006 10:54 PM

I like both, but I always felt Eddie was more entertaining overall. So Eddie.

The One 05-17-2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddpBANG
Where'd you get your stats? There's a few things you mention that I don't remember.

He did make a few mistakes...all of which happened during the WCW time of each wrestlers careers...

Chris Benoit
Was actually a THREE time Television Champion

Eddie Guerrero
NEVER won the Tag Team Titles
Was a former United States Champion
Was a former TWO time Cruiserweight Champion

Before you go spouting off about how you were one of the few people who watched WCW, uh, get your WCW facts striaght. Thanks sunshine.:wave:

The One 05-17-2006 11:00 PM

Oh and I didn't even look at the WWE Career Stats, right off the top of my head you forgot to mention Chris Benoit's reign with Chris Jericho as a World Tag Team Champion.

EDIT - And after looking at Eddie's WWE stats; you forgot his WWE Tag Title reign with Tajiri and his 2nd Los Guerreros reign.

EDIT #2 - Eddie is also a 2-time Intercontinental Champion

The One 05-17-2006 11:19 PM

For the sake of everyone, and due to some earlier mistakes, here are the CORRECT stats (unless I made a mistake :shifty: )

WCW Career

Chris Benoit
1-time WCW Champion (Match later striken from the record books...debatable)
2-time WCW United States Champion
3-time WCW Television Champion
2-time WCW Tag Team Champion (Dean Malenko [1] & Perry Saturn [1])

Eddy Guerrero
1-time WCW United States Champion
2-time WCW Cruiserweight Champion

WWE

Chris Benoit
1-time World Heavyweight Champion
3-time WWE Intercontinental Champion
2-time WWE United States Champion
3-time World Tag Team Champion (Chris Jericho [1] & Edge [2])
1-time WWE Tag Team Champion (Kurt Angle [1])

Eddie Guerrero
1-time WWE Champion
2-time WWE Intercontinental Champion
1-time WWE United States Champion
2-time WWE European Champion
4-time WWE Tag Team Champion (Chavo Guerrero [2], Rey Mysterio [1] & Tajiri [1])

EDIT - Wait, my argument was title histories didn't matter, why the fuck am I correcting title histories? :shifty:

neuicon 05-18-2006 12:39 AM

Wow... ...S - HOLE has finally posted something worth reading.

By the way, Eddie takes it by an inch.

ddpBANG 05-18-2006 01:00 AM

*edit

Nevermind

Dorkchop 05-18-2006 01:01 AM

Eddie was a better character, but Benoit was more solid in the ring. Don't get me wrong, Eddie was amazing in that ring and could have a great match with anyone (Like Bnoit), but Benoit has botched less moves than Eddie.

I hate using the word botch. It sounds too negative. I know botches and little screw ups do happen, and I'm fine with them happening. Just in the ring as a comparison, it happend less with Benoit.

It all depends how you look at it. I honestly can't choose.

Can we all agree that the wrestling world would have been a better place had Eddie and Benoit exclusively only wrestled each other, and never anyone else?

ddpBANG 05-18-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
<s>3</s> <b>4</b>-time WWE Tag Team Champion (Chavo Guerrero [2], Rey Mysterio [1] & Tajiri [1])

Nice math skills.

The One 05-18-2006 01:32 AM

Hahaha, type-o my friend. I have since fixed it. :kiss:

High Impact v.W.o 05-18-2006 03:09 AM

I'm gonna say Chris Benoit as he's (probably) had more success in all the promotions he's been in :-\

Mister Sinister 05-18-2006 03:19 AM

Sorry, One, I didn't look up stats, and were going off, by what I remembered..

I knew I forgot the Tag Team Title Reign with Tajiri, because I actually watched that PPV when they beat the WGTT in a Ladder Match.

The One 05-18-2006 04:02 AM

No need for appologies, I am simply fallowing up with expectations. People expect that once and again someone will say something that isn't 100% correct, and then the next step is for me to try and fit my over sized ego into some form correction, then make use of my otherwise usless obsessive compulsive disorder by visiting no less then 3 or 4 websites to verify that what I had said was correct.

Simple order of business my friend. ;)

High Impact v.W.o 05-18-2006 04:38 AM

Also he's not named "The One" without reason.

Rammsteinmad 05-18-2006 08:19 AM

Chris Benoit. But just about.

Actually I first got into Benoit when he had his mask, and he wrestled Guerrero (also with a mask). I was still pretty young, and the fact they had masks were like... "WOW!!! That is way cool!"

So Eddie rules just as much, but I'll always be a Benoit mark.

James Steele 05-19-2006 01:59 AM

This is tough. Overall, I would give Eddie the edge due to character but in just in-ring skill I would have to BARELY give it to Benoit. Chris Benoit is just so crisp and can make any match he is in believable.

tucsonspeed6 05-19-2006 08:11 AM

For in ring ability, I'd give it to Benoit. For Charisma I'd easily give it to Eddie. However, I get the feeling that Eddie was a much nicer guy than Benoit. So between the two I'd give the slight edge to Eddie, only because he was probably easier to deal with backstage.

the wwe champion 05-20-2006 09:06 AM

Benoit is really awesome as an in ring performer with all due respect to the late Eddie Gurrero. But overall as a package Eddie comes top on Chris.

Kalyx triaD 05-20-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s-hole
Who is the better 1 is it Benoit or Eddie Gurrero.

Comparision:

Benoit won the 2004 Royal Rumble

Eddie won a sd! tournament for the u.s. title

Benoit has main evented WM so has Eddie

Benoit is a multi time Tag Champ so is Eddie

Benoit has won the World Heavyweight Championship where as EDdie has
reigned supreme as the WWE CHAMPION

Comparing Sports Entertainment stats is meh.

Gertner 05-20-2006 10:27 AM

if we are going by who has had the better career, I'd have to give it to Benoit. Charisma means nothing in this arguement.

John la Rock 05-20-2006 10:29 PM

Eddie FUCKING Guerrero. One of the most entertaining wrestlers of all time imo

thegreatmutasyxx 05-21-2006 04:36 AM

These guys are tied on damm near everything
If eddy had not passed i feel he would have became better then he already was
especially on the mic
were as benoit is benoit, plus the eddie & malenko matches in ecw were incredible

i go with eddie on this

Mr. Aristocrat 05-21-2006 04:50 AM

I want to say Guerrero, but if I sit down and logically think about it, I have to admit had Benoit died last year instead of Eddie, I would probably say Benoit was better.

Either way, both are/were incredible and at the top of the feild.


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