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HoganNosDeezNutz 08-12-2006 12:09 AM

Best Manager of All Time!!!!!
 
Now here's a question, we have disputes of who is the best wrestler, but who is the best manager that helped them gain that success....Just a thought

Bad Company 08-12-2006 12:12 AM

Hulk Hogan

Dorkchop 08-12-2006 12:16 AM

Bobby the Brain Heenan is my personal favorite, and probably the best ever.

HoganNosDeezNutz 08-12-2006 12:17 AM

Bobby the Brain is a good one

HoganNosDeezNutz 08-12-2006 12:18 AM

But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

Corkscrewed 08-12-2006 01:54 AM

Heenan definitely. And of course, Freddy Blassie was a legendary manager.


But Jimmy Hart had a megaphone with him at all times. That alone probably won his wrestlers a lot of matches via annoyance.

The Fugitive 08-12-2006 02:06 AM

I'm sorry, a lot of people will say Heenan was the best manager (and he was one of the best, I'm not denying his talent), however I always felt Jim Cornette was the best in the business.

The Genius 08-12-2006 02:53 AM

jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

MMercM 08-12-2006 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Genius
jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

I really really loved those jackets. Really did. But in all honesty, Bobby the Brain takes the cake. He could play a comedic character then 10 minutes later get all serious, and he really flowed with that, I thought.

FourFifty 08-12-2006 03:21 AM

Freddie Blassie, Bobby The Brain, James E. Cornette. If I had to pick one....

All due respect, but my vote goes to James E. Cornette.

Impeccable 08-12-2006 07:32 AM

Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

The Mackem 08-12-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HoganNosDeezNutz
But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

Liar!

KingofOldSchool 08-12-2006 11:52 AM

Bobby Heenan, Jim Cornette, Freddie Blassie

NeanderCarl 08-12-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impeccable
Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

Ted DiBiase was a manager, from 1994 - 1996 and again in WCW 1996 - 1998. Surprisingly, he was a piss-poor manager. That may have been something to do with the quality of his charges however (Kama, King Kong Bundy, Sid, Tatanka, I.R.S., Xanta Klaus et al.) His stable read like a Who's Who of WrestleCrap. But he wasn't particularly effective in the role either. Just look at Steve Austin... the only time DiBiase's management ever helped him was when he left him.

My pick has got to be Bobby Heenan, hands down, although honourable mentions go to Paul E. Dangerously and Jim Cornette.

Worst ever manager goes to HBK's manager during his first title run, "Super Sock" Jose Lothario, IMO.

Caged Heat18 08-12-2006 03:36 PM

I'd have to say Booby Heenan. Although Jimmy Hart was a good one as well.

owenbrown 08-12-2006 05:15 PM

Bobby "The Brain". No question. :y:

Yashamaga 08-12-2006 05:41 PM

Heenan

Karlsberg 08-12-2006 06:26 PM

Heenan and Cornette are greatness but if I had to choose between the 2 I would have to say Cornette.

Kane Knight 08-12-2006 06:41 PM

Moe Sizzlac.

Ben Rodrigues 08-13-2006 08:36 AM

Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

Chavo Classic 08-13-2006 08:54 AM

Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

Ben Rodrigues 08-13-2006 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chavo Classic
Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

Exactly. The Rock/Brock feud was excellent (I believe this is when Heyman was on the creative team as well). Loved the mindgames - one segment that stands out for me is The Rock arriving at the arena and opening an envelope from Heyman which contained photos of a bloody Hogan. Tremendous.

Stickman 08-13-2006 12:59 PM

Mr. Perfect. he made Ric Flair......well maybe not, but Perfect was awesome.

Anybody Thrilla 08-13-2006 02:18 PM

Heenan was good, but I think people fell in love with his commentating so much that it carried over into their evaluation his managerial work.

I'm gonna go with Jim Cornette.

NeanderCarl 08-13-2006 09:28 PM

No way is Heenan overrated. Yes, his commentary was awesome. But the guy was a major heat magnet during his managerial run in AWA and WWF. He even managed to get Haku and The Barbarian over, dammit! And his ringside performances were incredible... the way he'd recoil at each bump his charge would take, gloat when they were in control and interact with the fans.... nobody else comes near.

And Ben, I did say Heyman, or rather Paul E. Dangerously, as an honourable mention. He was brilliant as the sleazy obnoxious businessman with the ENORMOUS cellphone.

RockyLover 08-14-2006 01:08 AM

The great one has only one word for the people "Mr. Fuji"!
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...somoans/02.jpg
If yeah smelllllllllll.... what the rockylover is cooking~

NeanderCarl 08-14-2006 02:02 AM

For those Heenan and Cornette lovers, here they share a little screen time on Cornette's WWF debut:

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FourFifty 08-14-2006 02:29 AM

<i>*gasm!*</i>

NeanderCarl 08-14-2006 03:27 AM

And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

Anybody Thrilla 08-14-2006 07:31 PM

But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager. :shifty:

Anybody Thrilla 08-14-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

They were booing him before Heenan got in the ring. I'll bet a lot of people already knew who he was.

Hanso Amore 08-14-2006 08:23 PM

Heenan was the biggest heel to combat Hogan in the eighties. He was always bringing in new members to the family and without him, hogan MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN AS BIG as he was.....Well, maybe not, but you need a great heel to get a face over, and people dont even realize that heenan did that job.

More people in the country could tell you who Bobby heenan is than John Cena.

he was the number 1 heel during wrestlings biggest boom.

Anybody Thrilla 08-14-2006 08:29 PM

I do love the shit out of Bobby Heenan.

Aussie Skier 08-14-2006 08:32 PM

best manager of all time...

hmmm...I always liked Jim Cornette personally, and Jimmy Hart also.

Weezel was good too, cos he really got under your skin, and Mr.Perfect with Ric flair was special also.
I've gotta say that ric Flair was a pretty sweet manager with HHH too

Fox 08-14-2006 09:00 PM

Gonna go outside the norm here and say Miss Elizabeth.

She drew more heat for Randy Savage than he ever would have on his own. If it wasn't for her, The Macho Man would never have become a household name.

RIP.

NeanderCarl 08-14-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager. :shifty:

But in Cornette's own words, only because Heenan retired....

NeanderCarl 08-14-2006 09:34 PM

Maybe we should just call it a draw.

I personally vote Heenan over James E. on the basis of the status of the wrestlers he managed. Heenan managed more big stars and champions than Cornette, who seemed to mainly specialise in tag teams.

Cornette had Yokozuna. Heenan had Andre The Giant. There's no comparison.

Well, other than both were fat.

DRBailey 08-15-2006 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Rodrigues
Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.


I'm just gonna put this idea out there....Dangerous Alliance...run with it...:D

What about the Grand Wizard of Wrestling? Though Cornette and Heenan do kind of run away from the pack a bit...

NeanderCarl 08-15-2006 09:30 AM

Grand Wizard was okay, verbally compares well to modern standards, but he was by no means the best ever. Same with Blassie and Albano, the other two heel managers of that era.

Definitely a standard setter and originator, but was surpassed on nearly every level by his successors.

Innovator 08-15-2006 05:27 PM

You fools, the greatest manager is Prince Nana! Lets go get some steak


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