Best Manager of All Time!!!!!

**HoganNosDeezNutz** · 08-12-2006, 12:09 AM

Now here's a question, we have disputes of who is the best wrestler, but who is the best manager that helped them gain that success....Just a thought

**Bad Company** · 08-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Hulk Hogan

**Dorkchop** · 08-12-2006, 12:16 AM

Bobby the Brain Heenan is my personal favorite, and probably the best ever.

**HoganNosDeezNutz** · 08-12-2006, 12:17 AM

Bobby the Brain is a good one

**HoganNosDeezNutz** · 08-12-2006, 12:18 AM

But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

**Corkscrewed** · 08-12-2006, 01:54 AM

Heenan definitely. And of course, Freddy Blassie was a legendary manager.

But Jimmy Hart had a megaphone with him at all times. That alone probably won his wrestlers a lot of matches via annoyance.

**The Fugitive** · 08-12-2006, 02:06 AM

I'm sorry, a lot of people will say Heenan was the best manager (and he was one of the best, I'm not denying his talent), however I always felt Jim Cornette was the best in the business.

**The Genius** · 08-12-2006, 02:53 AM

jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

**MMercM** · 08-12-2006, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Genius

jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

I really really loved those jackets. Really did. But in all honesty, Bobby the Brain takes the cake. He could play a comedic character then 10 minutes later get all serious, and he really flowed with that, I thought.

**FourFifty** · 08-12-2006, 03:21 AM

Freddie Blassie, Bobby The Brain, James E. Cornette. If I had to pick one....

All due respect, but my vote goes to James E. Cornette.

**Impeccable** · 08-12-2006, 07:32 AM

Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

**The Mackem** · 08-12-2006, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoganNosDeezNutz

But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

Liar!

**KingofOldSchool** · 08-12-2006, 11:52 AM

Bobby Heenan, Jim Cornette, Freddie Blassie

**NeanderCarl** · 08-12-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impeccable

Bobby Heenan for me.

He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager.

EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

Ted DiBiase was a manager, from 1994 - 1996 and again in WCW 1996 - 1998. Surprisingly, he was a piss-poor manager. That may have been something to do with the quality of his charges however (Kama, King Kong Bundy, Sid, Tatanka, I.R.S., Xanta Klaus et al.) His stable read like a Who's Who of WrestleCrap. But he wasn't particularly effective in the role either. Just look at Steve Austin... the only time DiBiase's management ever helped him was when he left him.

My pick has got to be Bobby Heenan, hands down, although honourable mentions go to Paul E. Dangerously and Jim Cornette.

Worst ever manager goes to HBK's manager during his first title run, "Super Sock" Jose Lothario, IMO.

**Caged Heat18** · 08-12-2006, 03:36 PM

I'd have to say Booby Heenan. Although Jimmy Hart was a good one as well.

**owenbrown** · 08-12-2006, 05:15 PM

Bobby "The Brain". No question.

**Yashamaga** · 08-12-2006, 05:41 PM

Heenan

**Karlsberg** · 08-12-2006, 06:26 PM

Heenan and Cornette are greatness but if I had to choose between the 2 I would have to say Cornette.

**Kane Knight** · 08-12-2006, 06:41 PM

Moe Sizzlac.

**Ben Rodrigues** · 08-13-2006, 08:36 AM

Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

**Chavo Classic** · 08-13-2006, 08:54 AM

Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

**Ben Rodrigues** · 08-13-2006, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic

Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

Exactly. The Rock/Brock feud was excellent (I believe this is when Heyman was on the creative team as well). Loved the mindgames - one segment that stands out for me is The Rock arriving at the arena and opening an envelope from Heyman which contained photos of a bloody Hogan. Tremendous.

**Stickman** · 08-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Mr. Perfect. he made Ric Flair......well maybe not, but Perfect was awesome.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-13-2006, 02:18 PM

Heenan was good, but I think people fell in love with his commentating so much that it carried over into their evaluation his managerial work.

I'm gonna go with Jim Cornette.

**NeanderCarl** · 08-13-2006, 09:28 PM

No way is Heenan overrated. Yes, his commentary was awesome. But the guy was a major heat magnet during his managerial run in AWA and WWF. He even managed to get Haku and The Barbarian over, dammit! And his ringside performances were incredible... the way he'd recoil at each bump his charge would take, gloat when they were in control and interact with the fans.... nobody else comes near.

And Ben, I did say Heyman, or rather Paul E. Dangerously, as an honourable mention. He was brilliant as the sleazy obnoxious businessman with the ENORMOUS cellphone.

08-14-2006, 01:08 AM

The great one has only one word for the people "Mr. Fuji"!

If yeah smelllllllllll.... what the rockylover is cooking~

**NeanderCarl** · 08-14-2006, 02:02 AM

For those Heenan and Cornette lovers, here they share a little screen time on Cornette's WWF debut:

**FourFifty** · 08-14-2006, 02:29 AM

*gasm!*

**NeanderCarl** · 08-14-2006, 03:27 AM

And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-14-2006, 07:31 PM

But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-14-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeanderCarl

And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

They were booing him before Heenan got in the ring. I'll bet a lot of people already knew who he was.

**Hanso Amore** · 08-14-2006, 08:23 PM

Heenan was the biggest heel to combat Hogan in the eighties. He was always bringing in new members to the family and without him, hogan MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN AS BIG as he was.....Well, maybe not, but you need a great heel to get a face over, and people dont even realize that heenan did that job.

More people in the country could tell you who Bobby heenan is than John Cena.

he was the number 1 heel during wrestlings biggest boom.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 08-14-2006, 08:29 PM

I do love the shit out of Bobby Heenan.

**Aussie Skier** · 08-14-2006, 08:32 PM

best manager of all time...

hmmm...I always liked Jim Cornette personally, and Jimmy Hart also.

Weezel was good too, cos he really got under your skin, and Mr.Perfect with Ric flair was special also.
I've gotta say that ric Flair was a pretty sweet manager with HHH too

**Fox** · 08-14-2006, 09:00 PM

Gonna go outside the norm here and say Miss Elizabeth.

She drew more heat for Randy Savage than he ever would have on his own. If it wasn't for her, The Macho Man would never have become a household name.

RIP.

**NeanderCarl** · 08-14-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla

But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager.

But in Cornette's own words, only because Heenan retired....

**NeanderCarl** · 08-14-2006, 09:34 PM

Maybe we should just call it a draw.

I personally vote Heenan over James E. on the basis of the status of the wrestlers he managed. Heenan managed more big stars and champions than Cornette, who seemed to mainly specialise in tag teams.

Cornette had Yokozuna. Heenan had Andre The Giant. There's no comparison.

Well, other than both were fat.

**DRBailey** · 08-15-2006, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Rodrigues

Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years?

Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

I'm just gonna put this idea out there....Dangerous Alliance...run with it...

What about the Grand Wizard of Wrestling? Though Cornette and Heenan do kind of run away from the pack a bit...

**NeanderCarl** · 08-15-2006, 09:30 AM

Grand Wizard was okay, verbally compares well to modern standards, but he was by no means the best ever. Same with Blassie and Albano, the other two heel managers of that era.

Definitely a standard setter and originator, but was surpassed on nearly every level by his successors.

**Innovator** · 08-15-2006, 05:27 PM

You fools, the greatest manager is Prince Nana! Lets go get some steak

08-12-2006, 12:09 AM	#1
HoganNosDeezNutz Ace of Spades Posts: 47	Best Manager of All Time!!!!! Now here's a question, we have disputes of who is the best wrestler, but who is the best manager that helped them gain that success....Just a thought

08-15-2006, 09:30 AM	#39
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	Grand Wizard was okay, verbally compares well to modern standards, but he was by no means the best ever. Same with Blassie and Albano, the other two heel managers of that era. Definitely a standard setter and originator, but was surpassed on nearly every level by his successors. Last edited by NeanderCarl; 08-15-2006 at 09:33 AM.

08-12-2006, 12:12 AM	#2
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Hulk Hogan

08-12-2006, 12:16 AM	#3
Dorkchop facebook.com/bloquemen Posts: 5,452	Bobby the Brain Heenan is my personal favorite, and probably the best ever.

08-12-2006, 12:17 AM	#4
HoganNosDeezNutz Ace of Spades Posts: 47	Bobby the Brain is a good one

08-12-2006, 12:18 AM	#5
HoganNosDeezNutz Ace of Spades Posts: 47	But I have negative 3 rep so who cares what I think

08-12-2006, 01:54 AM	#6
Corkscrewed Posts: 18,357	Heenan definitely. And of course, Freddy Blassie was a legendary manager. But Jimmy Hart had a megaphone with him at all times. That alone probably won his wrestlers a lot of matches via annoyance.

08-12-2006, 02:06 AM	#7
The Fugitive Posts: 1,907	I'm sorry, a lot of people will say Heenan was the best manager (and he was one of the best, I'm not denying his talent), however I always felt Jim Cornette was the best in the business.

08-12-2006, 02:53 AM	#8
The Genius Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posts: 1,924	jimmy hart who had a airbrushed jacket for every team/singles wrestler he managed!

08-12-2006, 03:21 AM	#10
FourFifty As over as Crystal Pepsi Posts: 21,639	Freddie Blassie, Bobby The Brain, James E. Cornette. If I had to pick one.... All due respect, but my vote goes to James E. Cornette.

08-12-2006, 07:32 AM	#11
Impeccable Tag Team Wrestling Mark! Posts: 2,340	Bobby Heenan for me. He could only be surpassed if Ted DiBiase becomes a manager. EVERYONE HAS GOT A PRICE!

08-12-2006, 11:52 AM	#13
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	Bobby Heenan, Jim Cornette, Freddie Blassie

08-12-2006, 03:36 PM	#15
Caged Heat18 Member Posts: 1,207	I'd have to say Booby Heenan. Although Jimmy Hart was a good one as well.

08-12-2006, 05:15 PM	#16
owenbrown I believe in Joe Hendry Posts: 22,349	Bobby "The Brain". No question.

08-12-2006, 05:41 PM	#17
Yashamaga The Franchise Posts: 7,368	Heenan

08-12-2006, 06:26 PM	#18
Karlsberg R.I.P Latino Heat Posts: 304	Heenan and Cornette are greatness but if I had to choose between the 2 I would have to say Cornette.

08-12-2006, 06:41 PM	#19
Kane Knight Ron Paul 4 EVA Posts: 152,467	Moe Sizzlac.

08-13-2006, 08:36 AM	#20
Ben Rodrigues Posts: 1,798	Is no one saying Heyman because it would make it look like you've only been watching a few years? Paul Heyman followed by extremely closely by Bobby Heenan.

08-13-2006, 08:54 AM	#21
Chavo Classic The Great Pink Hope Posts: 8,817	Paul Heyman did a tremendous job with Brock Lesnar

08-13-2006, 12:59 PM	#23
Stickman Stickman Posts: 15,119	Mr. Perfect. he made Ric Flair......well maybe not, but Perfect was awesome.

08-13-2006, 02:18 PM	#24
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	Heenan was good, but I think people fell in love with his commentating so much that it carried over into their evaluation his managerial work. I'm gonna go with Jim Cornette.

08-13-2006, 09:28 PM	#25
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	No way is Heenan overrated. Yes, his commentary was awesome. But the guy was a major heat magnet during his managerial run in AWA and WWF. He even managed to get Haku and The Barbarian over, dammit! And his ringside performances were incredible... the way he'd recoil at each bump his charge would take, gloat when they were in control and interact with the fans.... nobody else comes near. And Ben, I did say Heyman, or rather Paul E. Dangerously, as an honourable mention. He was brilliant as the sleazy obnoxious businessman with the ENORMOUS cellphone.

08-14-2006, 01:08 AM	#26
RockyLover Guest Posts: n/a	The great one has only one word for the people "Mr. Fuji"! If yeah smelllllllllll.... what the rockylover is cooking~

08-14-2006, 02:02 AM	#27
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	For those Heenan and Cornette lovers, here they share a little screen time on Cornette's WWF debut:

08-14-2006, 02:29 AM	#28
FourFifty As over as Crystal Pepsi Posts: 21,639	gasm!

08-14-2006, 03:27 AM	#29
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	And that clip just emphasises my point about how Heenan could draw heat. A lot of those fans probably had never clapped eyes on Cornette before, yet he was treated as a villain, guilty by association with the "Weasel"... and it helped that Heenan, in another of his major talents, put Cornette's arrival over BIG time as a huge event.

08-14-2006, 07:31 PM	#30
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	But you heard it from Heenan himself. Cornette is the greatest manager.

08-14-2006, 08:23 PM	#32
Hanso Amore You can't teach that Posts: 19,337	Heenan was the biggest heel to combat Hogan in the eighties. He was always bringing in new members to the family and without him, hogan MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN AS BIG as he was.....Well, maybe not, but you need a great heel to get a face over, and people dont even realize that heenan did that job. More people in the country could tell you who Bobby heenan is than John Cena. he was the number 1 heel during wrestlings biggest boom.

08-14-2006, 08:29 PM	#33
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	I do love the shit out of Bobby Heenan.

08-14-2006, 08:32 PM	#34
Aussie Skier So long, Eddie! miss you. Posts: 1,910	best manager of all time... hmmm...I always liked Jim Cornette personally, and Jimmy Hart also. Weezel was good too, cos he really got under your skin, and Mr.Perfect with Ric flair was special also. I've gotta say that ric Flair was a pretty sweet manager with HHH too

08-14-2006, 09:00 PM	#35
Fox "Ask him!" Posts: 10,072	Gonna go outside the norm here and say Miss Elizabeth. She drew more heat for Randy Savage than he ever would have on his own. If it wasn't for her, The Macho Man would never have become a household name. RIP.

08-14-2006, 09:34 PM	#37
NeanderCarl That's Not My Name Posts: 9,086	Maybe we should just call it a draw. I personally vote Heenan over James E. on the basis of the status of the wrestlers he managed. Heenan managed more big stars and champions than Cornette, who seemed to mainly specialise in tag teams. Cornette had Yokozuna. Heenan had Andre The Giant. There's no comparison. Well, other than both were fat.