The Miz
 

What's the deal with this guy? Is he a wannabe wrestler or is he actually around to be an announcer. He's just absolutely terrible, worse than when the Coach started out. Why do they waste money on guys like that?

Because he's a "celebrity."

Vince will always jump at the opportunity to bring in someone from outside the industry if they were at any time moderately famous.

See: Luke Perry on SmackDown last week or Rob Schneider's appearance during last year's Diva Search.

The Miz is a celebrity? Where's he from?

He was on MTV's "Real World" reality show.

Why do I keep on thinking that he was from Million Dollar Tough Enough?

Because he was?

He was also on 2Gether. He was the gay 1.

IS there an echo in here?

Oh... so I'm not going a bit crazy.

I have a degree in mental health. But then trying to diagnose myself is about as futile as Giant Khali going back to wrestling school

So, the Miz isn't totally new to the wrestling scene. Did he enter TE because it was a reality show, rather than a wrestling contest? Is he more of a wrestler? Did he get his break in reality because of TE?

So many questions

As I understand it, he created "The Miz" character on Real World with the intention of using it to get into wrestling. I think he did a couple of guest spots at indy shows, then tried out for the Million-Dollar TE. Of course, he made the finalists because he was "famous." And, of course, he's irritating as hell, so the fans didn't vote for him to win.

But Vince wouldn't let something like fans hating someone stand in the way of signing them to a long-term contract.

He's quite a calculating guy. Kudos to him for achieving this goal without having any significant wrestling or presenting qualities.

I dunno... I think he wouldn't be so nearly unbearable if he actually did wrestle.

I have to go now...

My planet needs me.

Plus, he says HOO-RAH alot. That's definetley the next big catch phrase Vince has been waiting for :shifty: .

As sad as it is to say, he really isn't bad in the ring, especially considering how short he has been a pro.

He still should be in OVW getting better skills though, and they need to shut him the fuck up. They could have made him a pompous "im famous from reality TV" character, but they ruined him

Miz got bumped from the FINAL for Todd Grisham??

Expect a Styles-esque rant on Monday night with him ending up in ECW jobbing to Kelly Kelly.

Except he's been in pro wrestling for a while. He just hasn't been with the WWE that long.

Was the final live? That might explain it.

The Miz died on his back to his home planet.

There shouldn't be a thread for The Miz. If we bitch about him too much he'll get shoved down our throats. I'll use Cena as champ for the best example.

So They're still piping in pops for him, but Tatanka's getting cheers too. Conclusion? The Miz is a shot at TNA.

The only thing the Miz has going for him is JBL's commentary.

The Miz sucks. He has no talent mic wise and in-ring wise and no charisma and is nothing but a waste of money. No one cares about him.

And strong Post Production.

is an annoying cunt.

Fuck you, Poochy rocks

He was only 16 but convicted as a felon.

He's been in prison, but he was let out early to cut the inmate suicide rate.

And oddly enough at the same time the number of inmates with sore assholes dramatically decreased, concidence? :wtf:

This guy is really starting to remind me of John Cena in the way people say "he's got no talent". Fuck off, he's got plenty. The guy is pretty damn athletic in the ring. I don't want to sound like Vermaat with the NEW and INNOVATIVE arguements, here, and it's probably because of the restrictions the WWE puts on its talent, but The Miz has impressed me with some of his flippy-flying stuff in recent weeks.

Everyone just assumes because he's only been training for like two years, and because he got offered a contract due to his celebrity past, and because he's annoying as fuck when he's trying to be "cool", he can't do anything.

Mizanin is a fucking HEEL. I don't know if he's a parody of John Cena or what, but the fans BOO him. He hits an arm drag on a face and acts like he is king of the world. He's a textbook "I'm the shit" heel. Instead of just turning him heel for no reason at all, they've got it kind of backwards with the commentary. Michael Cole loves him, and JBL hates him. People are sheep if they can't look past that, though. The Miz's opponents have been: Tatanka, Matt Hardy, Scotty 2 Hotty, Funaki and Tatanka (again). Those men are pushed as being some of the purest babyfaces in the company. He hasn't onced faced Sylvan, or beaten a Pit Bull. He's a fucking heel. He dominates his matches, makes fun of Native American culture. It doesn't get much more heelish than the cheap heat trick of racism.

The guy's got talent. I'm sure he's an obnoxious bastard in real life, but when he plays it up, he's a fantastic heel.

I've only seen him once.

He was hosting the RAW Diva Search. He couldn't read their names slow enough for the camera to move from one to the other as the phone numbers showed up on the screen.

He went all the way through, then had to go back to like Girl #2 and read their names again, but more slowly.


He's going to have to prove to contain Angle-like wrestling ability to win me over after that shit. First impressions are everything.

God, you are such an apologist.

Not really. It's not like Mike Mizanin has done anything to hurt the product, it's more people being douches about him. Most of the people who complain about him don't even watch SmackDown!, or think he's meant to be a babyface.

I'm just pointing out that the guy is MEANT to be annoying. He's doing his job. I'm sure he's good at it in real life, but if it can be focused into a character, I'm all for it.

The thing I see with him is that there is absolutely no change in him as a heel than a babyface. He is the same exact character doing the same exact things and never really turned heel. The only reason we know he's supposed to be heel is because they started having him wrestle faces. He gets no reaction at all either way and has no charisma and a bland personality. That's just my opinion though.

And you're entitled to it. There are some guys that can only play one character as well. Ricky Steamboat was a babyface for all his career. Kurt Angle used to make an awful babyface. Triple H in 2002 was pure shit. The Miz will probably be a heel for life, at least until he gets some better wrestling skills, but I don't think his natural annoying level should be held against him.

He does get a reaction. The crowds are all over him. Maybe they pipe in the boos, but it looks like they at least find him dislikeable.

I can see why you'd say he has no charisma. His personality if very mechanical (as opposed to CM Punk, who has natural charisma), and the guy's personality is very "MTV-ish". I think that's the point, though. We're not supposed to see this guy as anything more than "Who's ready to get funky with the funkiest chicken in the world!?! Hoo-rah!".

I think everyone's just being too hard on the guy too early. Wait until he has a feud, can cut a few direct promos, and wrestle a match designed to make Mizanin look like anything more than a fluke wrestler. I think the guy will be at least a note-worthy heel in a few months.