The Future of ECW
 

I thought this would get more attention in this forum.

Fucking retarded. That is all. I rarely watch Smackdown, and I'm probably going to stop watching Raw live.

ECW is the only show I care about. Let's how long that lasts.

ECW is Smackdown on cable. That's the only difference.

This really doesn't bother me. It's simply aesthetic. I thought Extremists and Vixens sounded retarded anyway. And what's the difference if there's a WWE logo in the corner? I already know it's WWE, and don't notice the logo most of the time.

TNA TNA TNA, yeah im that guy. Stupid WWE, just stupid.

Everyone already knows it is a third brand for the WWE, so this is retarded. I could care less about the 'vixens' being called 'divas' or the 'superstars' because I don't think that even affects the brand but removing ECW from the screen defeats the purpose and ECW is my favorite show right now and is doing just fine as it is.

TNA needs to stop being shitty before I chant with you...

The majority of the matches are toned down as it is. If they get a steady PPV schedule rolling they can save the big spots for then.

Listen, I'm just trying to be optimistic here. I can deal with less hardcore action as long as what I'm being given is entertaining.

If they tone it down any more, we're going to have nothing but thumb wrestling and catfights.

Seriously, I wonder how stupid they must be to believe there's any confusion.

"WWE wrestlers on ECW? WTFFFFFFF? THESE ARE DIFFERENT COMPANIES!"

I mean, the 5 minute promos for the Marine, the replays of Raw and Smackdown happenings, the homecoming interpromotional matches, the presence at the upcoming PPV...

Next thing they're going to tell me is "Velocity" drew low ratings because it was mistaken for Antique Roadhouse.

No, ECW is doing "poorly" because it's on Sci Fi, a channel which normally draws 1 ratings at best, is associated with nerds, and leads into ECW with Eureka. And that's ignoring the fact that oldschool ECW fans are probably unimpressed and it'll be hard to lure in new fans with the ECW brand name...

...ECW was very much a "love it or hate it" sort of thing.

I think the ratings are low because they haven't signed Silver King and El Dandy. COME ON. SILVER KING AND EL DANDY=RATINGS = MONEY!!! WOOOOOOO!

Only thing that bothers me is the "toning down the product bit". Because well, if it's not Extreme, why bring it back. The fans? The fans were attracted to a different product, that's like pissing in a can and calling it Coke because plenty of people liked that, and then complaining when it doesn't sell.

I was going to criticise that, but who is KK to doubt El Dandy?

How the fuck is this news?

Silver King v.s. Finlay = RATINGS.

Ah yes Vince becuase squash matches and shitty storylines are so much more entertaining! I thought ECW was meant to be an 'alternative' to raw and smackdown? RVD V Test was the best match i've seen all year and i'm not confused about the brands and I doubt many others are either, if they're, they don't deserve to be wrestling fans. Thanks for insulting our intelligence, stupid writers, not everyone is as dumb as you fuckers! This really does give an insight into how the writers think, imo.

Oh well just as I thought ECW was getting good, this news pops up, fuck it, unless it gets better with less squash matches, I wont be watching. I hope RVD and Test aren't bothered about Vince not liking that match, RVD has really been improving to, Fuck Vince Mcmahon, i'm going to watch more of TNA instead of this if is how things are going.

What we can get from this is : Vince doesn't like extreme entertaining matches, he loves boring nothing-to-do-with-anything squash matches.

No, that's a turd in a bag.

How is it not news?

...It is 2004, isn't it?

Vince must have really had an ax to grind.....That's what I thought when I first read this. Well, ECW is recieving a blumpkin. They have what, 5 or 6 of the original roster, and the remainder are WWE talent that don't get as much screentime anymore?

We probably should have known McMahon was going to pull this shit because the WWE guys that appear on the show remind me of a cheesy i80s spinoff of an original sitcom where those characters from the first show would make "guest appearances" one the spinoff, and hilarity would ensue.

I can almost hear a SCI-Fi announcer go "And making sure things don't get out of hand, Raw's Matt Stryker is going to lay down the law in ECW country". UGHHH!

I really thought it was already considered a brand exstension. What with the dumbed down matches, storylines, and roster. Not to mention it takes place BEFORE Smackdown..... fucking morons.

I want to know exactly what it was that Vince hated about RVD vs. Test.

Excitement, entertainment, innovation, etc.

It made a hoss show potential and a fan favorite look good?

I think this report is BS.

I'd doubt it, buit it seems too likely to be true.

Everyone agrees that it was a really good match. Good matches aren't allowed in the WWE for some reason. I rarely see good matches on Raw or Smackdown. Make that practically never.

I'm thinking this might not be true as well.

How can Vince say he doesn't like hardcore wrestling when every match he's ever been in has essentially been a hardcore match?

Cause its the only match he can do.

How was it they decided to tone down ECW in the first place, despite the response from ONS2 and such?

Come on, Vince's logic has always been convenient and contradictory.

"OH GEE this isn't a WWE product? Wow, I just thought ECW always used to suck donkey nuts."

Way to alienate your fans even more than you already have, Vince.

Vince: Fans? What fans?

Next week on ECW, Kelly Kelly stripteases with Britney Spears and Kevin Federline teams up with 2 guys from Jackass to take on Paul Heyman, Joey Styles & The Zombie in a mud wrestling match!

WELCOME TO THE EXTREME!

I agree with Dunn.

I don't think that there's any way for people to know that ECW is affiliated with the WWE.

The only hints they're dropping are having the ECW champion face off against the two other champions at the next WWE PPV, having ECW stars on WWE shows, WWE starts on ECW shows, outright stating on air that Vince owns ECW, having ECW's website be a part of WWE.com, and advertising WWE events and products on ECW on Sci-Fi.

Yeah, the fans have been blindsided.